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28 minutes ago, Satyriconhome said:

So no then, stay hidden behind the safety of your keyboard

This is your big chance, you have been spouting on here for eons that you have a much better handle than the Chairman,  CEO, Head of Footy, Coach et al

Let's see you there raising the issues

I actually talk the players about other things besides footy, although I do get withdrawal symptoms during the off season......have taken to standing naked outside my apartment and howling in the direction of Goschs

You would be surprised what you get told when you can be trusted to keep it to yourself and not put it all over a forum

Did i say no i wasn’t going?

Yes you talk to the players. We all here about it ad nauseum, but much of what they tell you obviously is not factual. 

One only has to read some of your training reports from last summer to know that. But when you are questioned you just say “oh well it’s only a game” or to posters like me, you put the boot in. 

Many  Landers write great insightful training reports, that tell us what is going on and i really enjoy them

You Satyr are not one of those people

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    17 minutes ago, Demonland said:

    Let's just keep personal attacks to a minimum as in none.

    So if you could just go ahead and do that...

    On here or at the forum?

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    22 minutes ago, Demonland said:

    Let's just keep personal attacks to a minimum as in none.

    So if you could just go ahead and do that...

    If you could go ahead and get me those TPS reports....that would be grrrrrrrrrreat. Classic movie. 

    I’ve let Pert know I can’t make the forum however sent in some questions I’ve asked for him to read out and answer. 

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    3 hours ago, 3183 Dee said:

    Would @Demonland be able to run a live podcast of the event?

    film time GIF

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    52 minutes ago, Satyriconhome said:

     

    I actually talk the players about other things besides footy, 

    You would be surprised what you get told when you can be trusted to keep it to yourself and not put it all over a forum

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    6 minutes ago, Demonland said:

    On here. I imagine the forum will be quite spicy but I have no control over that.

    A serious question.

    If the cl6b want to know what hard core members think about the club then demonland would be an obvious place to ask. A for profit business would salivate over access to such rich and diverse feedback from customers.

    Do you think the club would be interested in some form of interaction with dl? For example a thread where a rep responded to questions?

    Would you (thats to say you) be open to such an idea?

    I recall some comments that Schwab might have posted (before my time on dl) at some point.

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    4 minutes ago, binman said:

    A serious question.

    If the cl6b want to know what hard core members think about the club then demonland would be an obvious place to ask. A for profit business would salivate over access to such rich and diverse feedback from customers.

    Do you think the club would be interested in some form of interaction with dl? For example a thread where a rep responded to questions?

    Would you (thats to say you) be open to such an idea?

    I recall some comments that Schwab might have posted (before my time on dl) at some point.

    A DL survey to ubderstand member attitudes would be the equivelant of conducting a census using only mental asylum patients as the sample. 

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    For those calling for others to put up or shut up at the meeting lets look at what has been acknowledged by Pert in the letter/email already and do not need to be raised again.

    Coaching area needs strengthening with new personal. 

    Fitness and conditioning area needs strengthening with new personal. 

    More changes still to come with acknowledges some personal under performing.

     

    So drop of criticizing posters who pointed these issues out long before the Club acknowledged them as problem areas..

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    10 minutes ago, binman said:

    A serious question.

    If the cl6b want to know what hard core members think about the club then demonland would be an obvious place to ask. A for profit business would salivate over access to such rich and diverse feedback from customers.

    Do you think the club would be interested in some form of interaction with dl? For example a thread where a rep responded to questions?

    Would you (thats to say you) be open to such an idea?

    I recall some comments that Schwab might have posted (before my time on dl) at some point.

    I'd be open to it but honestly the club has a bigger sample on their social media and on their email list.

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    2014 - 17th
    2019 - 17th

    This idea of "growth" at the club, that brainwashed players like Brayshaw and Jones have been spewing out in the media recently, is totally delusional. These are some of the facts of the last 5 years:

    • No premierships (AFL or VFL)
    • More losses than wins (63-50)
    • More losses than wins at the MCG (34-28), supposedly our "home" ground
    • No Brownlow medalists, only 3 All Australians (Gawn, Oliver, Hibberd) and 1 Rising Star winner (Hogan) who got traded

    Not to mention the player and coach upheaval every year over the last 5 years. To quote @Sorry kids from last month, the "Club remains homeless and leaderless with no likelihood of a flag".

    Growth my [censored].

     

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    24 minutes ago, dice said:

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    2014 - 17th
    2019 - 17th

    This idea of "growth" at the club, that brainwashed players like Brayshaw and Jones have been spewing out in the media recently, is totally delusional. These are some of the facts of the last 5 years:

    • No premierships (AFL or VFL)
    • More losses than wins (63-50)
    • More losses than wins at our "home" ground (34-28)
    • No Brownlow medalists, only 3 All Australians (Gawn, Oliver, Hibberd) and 1 Rising Star winner (Hogan) who got traded

    Not to mention the player and coach upheaval every year over the last 5 years. To quote @Sorry kids from last month, the "Club remains homeless and leaderless with no likelihood of a flag".

    Growth my [censored].

     

    Did we or did we not improve ladder position every year for 5 years? Nothing in your post refutes what is a clear fact.

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    1 hour ago, Sorry kids said:

    So drop of criticizing posters who pointed these issues out long before the Club acknowledged them as problem areas..

     

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    7 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

    Did we or did we not improve ladder position every year for 5 years? Nothing in your post refutes what is a clear fact.

    No we didn't. We improved our ladder position for 4 years, not 5.

    And if you call going from 17th in 2014 to 17th in 2019 "growth", then you are as brainwashed as everyone else at the club.

    I have huge respect for your posts on Demonland but I have to disrespect you on this one. Sorry.

     

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    The Members forum is a failed Collingwood idea, where Eddie would try to calm the masses. It's not a Melbourne thing.

    We are a bespoke club that should be centred around our history, our legacy and being small, efficient and smart. Quality over quantity.

    Peter Jackson seemed to understand that, he linked the club in to the city and focused on the heartland. Pert's desire for 70k members and silly things like a members forum won't get us anywhere.

    2018 is done. Finished. Mistakes have been made, they are being rectified. If the administration wants to rebuild trust with the fan base then get the players back in to training in November and preach community interaction at open training sessions. Shake some hands, talk to the people who turn up. Anyone else is just hot air.

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    4 minutes ago, dice said:

    No we didn't. We improved our ladder position for 4 years, not 5.

    And if you call going from 17th in 2014 to 17th in 2019 "growth", then you are as brainwashed as everyone else at the club.

    I have huge respect for your posts on Demonland but I have to disrespect you on this one. Sorry.

     

    My mistake. Wins not ladder position, I forgot that going from 2 wins to 4 wins didn't come with a step up the ladder. 4 years of ladder improvement, 5 years of wins improvements.

    Even if making a prelim last year was overachieving we had 10 win and 12 win seasons before that, a long way from our goal but also miles from the dark days of 4 wins or the 2 win Neeld season. 

    Premierships are the aim, Brownlow's, Rising stars, AA's - popularity contests as much as anything most of the time. This years step back was dramatic but we won the same amount of games this year as Brisbane did last year and they are still a chance of making the grand final. It's possible to be critical about a lot of the club whilst still having some belief that we can get back to at least where we were in 16/17 if not better. I don't really buy the idea that the players aren't allowed to be positive, if they don't have belief that they'll bounce back what hope is there that it will happen?

     

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    2 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

    My mistake. Wins not ladder position, I forgot that going from 2 wins to 4 wins didn't come with a step up the ladder. 4 years of ladder improvement, 5 years of wins improvements.

    Even if making a prelim last year was overachieving we had 10 win and 12 win seasons before that, a long way from our goal but also miles from the dark days of 4 wins or the 2 win Neeld season. 

    Premierships are the aim, Brownlow's, Rising stars, AA's - popularity contests as much as anything most of the time. This years step back was dramatic but we won the same amount of games this year as Brisbane did last year and they are still a chance of making the grand final. It's possible to be critical about a lot of the club whilst still having some belief that we can get back to at least where we were in 16/17 if not better. I don't really buy the idea that the players aren't allowed to be positive, if they don't have belief that they'll bounce back what hope is there that it will happen?

     

    Hope will come for the Club when the curse of '65 is lifted!

     

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    Collingwood did this a few years ago and didn't go well

    On one hand it's good they acknowledge the need for members to air their grievances after the disappointment of this year but on the other I don't see what it is possibly going to achieve? Are members going to start questioning the coaches and selection committee on team selection, recruitment/drafting, game plans etc? It's ridiculous however the email explicitly states they wi not discuss any off field issues only on field (does a training base constitute on or off?)

    Just do your job, make the necessary changes and show us the results starting round 1 2020. Anything else is just fugazi.

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    2 hours ago, binman said:

    A serious question.

    If the cl6b want to know what hard core members think about the club then demonland would be an obvious place to ask. A for profit business would salivate over access to such rich and diverse feedback from customers.

    Do you think the club would be interested in some form of interaction with dl? For example a thread where a rep responded to questions?

    Would you (thats to say you) be open to such an idea?

    I recall some comments that Schwab might have posted (before my time on dl) at some point.

    Schwab did this and was an unmitigated disaster. Created a thread, belittled the diehards on here and then disappeared refusibg to answer legitimate criticisms.

    As above I'd hope the club just gets on with fixing the problem and getting results. Only results will placate the members.

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    1 minute ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

    Collingwood did this a few years ago and didn't go well

    On one hand it's good they acknowledge the need for members to air their grievances after the disappointment of this year but on the other I don't see what it is possibly going to achieve? Are members going to start questioning the coaches and selection committee on team selection, recruitment/drafting, game plans etc? It's ridiculous however the email explicitly states they wi not discuss any off field issues only on field (does a training base constitute on or off?)

    Just do your job, make the necessary changes and show us the results starting round 1 2020. Anything else is just fugazi.

    Good point Dr G

    I would prefer to see an interview of Goodwin by a well prepared journalist addressing the key issues.

    This could end up as amateur hour.

    A supporters forum would be much better if it looked at the various value propositions for different classes of supporters.

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    The club should make all efforts to get elite players to the club. When did we have any player of the on field caliber of de Goey or Dangerfield or Franklin (at his prime) in recent years? We get VFL rejects, old crocks that other clubs no longer want and crummy picks from the draft. 

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    “Members will hear our learnings,” Gary and Glen say.

    And they will hear our yearnings.

    (‘learnings’ - sigh. And they used it twice!)

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    It’s a weasel word. ‘Lessons learned’ is correct English. Management fools love to use ‘learnings’ to look clever. They just look foolish.

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    5 hours ago, Satyriconhome said:

    Are you going to be there to ask the hard questions?

    Time for the whingers and whiners to put up or shut up

    I've already registered and a couple of questions ready to go

    Can’t wait for your Dorothy Dixer qs about how great things are. 

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