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10 hours ago, Demons11 said:

Because it’s the same team that made the prelim the year before.  So we had a poor year, let’s cut wages! 

No, not cut wages, but replace NQR footballers with traded in or drafted players, who are better, or will be better.

What was the rush to give ANB a new contract and of 2 years? Were we scared the other clubs would want him? 

 
23 minutes ago, Redleg said:

No, not cut wages, but replace NQR footballers with traded in or drafted players, who are better, or will be better.

What was the rush to give ANB a new contract and of 2 years? Were we scared the other clubs would want him? 

Time to get off his back Red, we all know what you think. He’s MFC so let’s support him.

3 minutes ago, Baghdad Bob said:

Time to get off his back Red, we all know what you think. He’s MFC so let’s support him.

Ok.

 
1 hour ago, goodwindees said:

You’ve got no idea if you think ANB is on Base Payments. 

 Base was the wrong wording but he wound be below the average wage

59 minutes ago, Redleg said:

No, not cut wages, but replace NQR footballers with traded in or drafted players, who are better, or will be better.

What was the rush to give ANB a new contract and of 2 years? Were we scared the other clubs would want him? 

ANB is a role player, a great team man, the right age and you have to show some faith in your playing list. 

Keeping ANB also has no bearing on us getting other players.  

Edited by Demons11


20 hours ago, Unleash Hell said:

Wouod Keath choosing dogs be another factor? Or is it simply cap space?

Keath would have been a good get as a predictable, solid citizen. Frost is completely unpredictable and doesn't engender trust with team mates and their positioning.

May, Keath and Lever playing interceptor would have been great. I wonder if we've got anything else up our sleeve. Otherwise, maybe Petty has to go back a year earlier than I would have hoped.

5 hours ago, Demons11 said:

ANB is a role player, a great team man, the right age and you have to show some faith in your playing list. 

Keeping ANB also has no bearing on us getting other players.  

I thought you said it did? If it's the difference between Frost and Elliott, it's just as easily the difference between a two year deal with ANB.

Edited by A F

Frost had a very good Frost year.  Can he improve even further?

He's the only player outside Max, Clarry and possibly Salem, Fritsch and Harmes who actually increased their trade value this year and trading any of them is in a different league from considering a Frost trade.

Posters focussing on what we might get in return and those saying "sell high" are on the right track.

 
5 hours ago, Demons11 said:

ANB is a role player, a great team man, the right age and you have to show some faith in your playing list. 

Keeping ANB also has no bearing on us getting other players.  

Probably correct there D11.  A very loyal servant and apart from the first half of this season (injured or compromised pre-season?) he usually trains the house down and pressures/tackles runs his butt off on game day (many first half games an exception this season though).

He also gets on the end of alot of ball.  Ranked No.1 last season in uncontested.  To give some idea of how far he (and the team in general) dropped off this season he fell 17 places this season to 18th!

Fairly limited footballer with ball in hand though and out of the 38 players who graced the field this season he ranked 26th with effective disposals.  Last year he was ranked 19th so a slightly better result but that's probably about as good as you're going to get with him on the delivery side.

However, i beg to differ on the faith part as, imv, we've shown significant faith in him and  doubt he would have survived on many other lists (22), barring the regular bottom quartile clubs of late.  As a depth player on a few more clubs a little higher up the rung? Sure.

A one year extension would have been more than sufficient and review at the end of 2020 to free up room IF he doesn't improve substantially on this season's ordinary performance.  Not sure why or where the two years came from but maybe theré's some method to Taylor's madness.

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16 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Some serious questions needs to be asked on how the hell that a team finishing 2nd last is bursting at the salary cap??

That you have [censored] fart deals to blokes like Josh Wagner and Alex Neal Bullen for 2 years!? 

Is this Mahoney again doing all this??

This isn't just MFC, it's what happens when your injury list blows out and unexpected match payments come in to play


1 minute ago, Pennant St Dee said:

This isn't just MFC, it's what happens when your injury list blows out and unexpected match payments come in to play

I’ve sometimes wondered if match payments come out of the salary cap or not. 

Just now, Ethan Tremblay said:

I’ve sometimes wondered if match payments come out of the salary cap or not. 

Yes they do, always puts pressure on club accountants and needs to be considered for list management decisions. 

2 hours ago, A F said:

I thought you said it did? If it's the difference between Frost and Elliott, it's just as easily the difference between a two year deal with ANB.

I said Frost not ANB.  Completely different pay scales 

1 hour ago, Rusty Nails said:

Probably correct there D11.  A very loyal servant and apart from the first half of this season (injured or compromised pre-season?) he usually trains the house down and pressures/tackles runs his butt off on game day (many first half games an exception this season though).

He also gets on the end of alot of ball.  Ranked No.1 last season in uncontested.  To give some idea of how far he (and the team in general) dropped off this season he fell 17 places this season to 18th!

Fairly limited footballer with ball in hand though and out of the 38 players who graced the field this season he ranked 26th with effective disposals.  Last year he was ranked 19th so a slightly better result but that's probably about as good as you're going to get with him on the delivery side.

However, i beg to differ on the faith part as, imv, we've shown significant faith in him and  doubt he would have survived on many other lists (22), barring the regular bottom quartile clubs of late.  As a depth player on a few more clubs a little higher up the rung? Sure.

A one year extension would have been more than sufficient and review at the end of 2020 to free up room IF he doesn't improve substantially on this season's ordinary performance.  Not sure why or where the two years came from but maybe theré's some method to Taylor's madness.

I don’t disagree with you in regards to his skills but he is in the team for his running and pressure ability.  

I think he is in our top 25 players and therefore adds depth, so im happy with the 2 years 

4 hours ago, A F said:

Keath would have been a good get as a predictable, solid citizen. Frost is completely unpredictable and doesn't engender trust with team mates and their positioning.

May, Keath and Lever playing interceptor would have been great. I wonder if we've got anything else up our sleeve. Otherwise, maybe Petty has to go back a year earlier than I would have hoped.

I thought Petty showed a lot as a forward (needed some work on skills, but didn't look lost).

I felt getting Keath would have given us a lot of flexibility. Im very keen to see what else is in store for the trade period.

 


39 minutes ago, Unleash Hell said:

I thought Petty showed a lot as a forward (needed some work on skills, but didn't look lost).

I felt getting Keath would have given us a lot of flexibility. Im very keen to see what else is in store for the trade period.

 

Yep, Petty did well forward, but I reckon he's ultimately an interceptor at the back.

Frost will be in a Melbourne jumper 

 

 

 

 

tomorrow, he’s our rep for the Grand Final sprint.

5 minutes ago, Dee Zephyr said:

Frost will be in a Melbourne jumper 

 

 

 

 

tomorrow, he’s our rep for the Grand Final sprint.

Watch for him to lead until the 50m mark, then lose his bearings, change direction and run up the players race.

1 hour ago, Dee Zephyr said:

Frost will be in a Melbourne jumper 

 

 

 

 

tomorrow, he’s our rep for the Grand Final sprint.

The club in its wisdom are seizing the opportunity to have him walk through the mounting yard one last time in order to push his price up. They’ll be oiling him up to the hilt to have him glistening.

”We convinced him he had to run in the grand final sprint to get the contract over the line haha” said Mahoney.

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7 hours ago, Demons11 said:

I said Frost not ANB.  Completely different pay scales 

They shouldn't be.


23 hours ago, Demons11 said:

ANB is a role player, a great team man, the right age and you have to show some faith in your playing list. 

Keeping ANB also has no bearing on us getting other players.  

Maybe not in isolation but keeping the likes of ANB and Jones impacts our ability to keep Frost and land someone like Elliot, both players far more useful and key to our structure than the aforementioned midgets that have had little to zero impact in games for most of 2019.

I'm on the fence regarding mr Frost, it's a very big call to trade him, we really lacked continuity throughout the season, can we rely on May and Lever playing every game they need to develop cohesion. 

16 hours ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

They shouldn't be.

Exactly mate. Both are depth players or at the very best, fringe 22 players that shouldn't play every game if we're flying.

 
5 hours ago, Rednblueriseing said:

I'm on the fence regarding mr Frost, it's a very big call to trade him, we really lacked continuity throughout the season, can we rely on May and Lever playing every game they need to develop cohesion. 

Continuity is definitely important, but if you get your defensive system right, we should be able to plug and play a bit, as well as cover for injuries, providing we don't have too many.


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