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  On 23/10/2019 at 01:16, Lord Nev said:

Could still be a chance to come to us IMO.

Port Adelaide small forward Sam Gray still garnering rival interest as possible delisting looms

 

Is he fast?  He doesnt kick a lot of goals for a supposed small forward, but he has had some seasons averaging over 20 touches and averaged 6 tackles one season.

If he doesnt have pace he wont help us.

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      On 23/10/2019 at 01:48, JakovichScissorKick said:

    Is he fast?  He doesnt kick a lot of goals for a supposed small forward, but he has had some seasons averaging over 20 touches and averaged 6 tackles one season.

    If he doesnt have pace he wont help us.

    Tomlinson doesn't have pace but will help us. Think people have oversold our need for "pace" a bit this year.

    Gray is a genuine goal sneak who we can get for free. With Garlett gone, I don't think we have any genuine small forward goal sneak types, and IMO it's a weakness for us in our list (as it stands pre-draft). Would have been our equal 3rd goal kicker this year.

     

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    Wouldn't be completely against it because he would probably be best 22 but I've always thought he was more of an up and back half forward flanker than a dangerous small forward.

    If he's just competing with ANB, Lockhart, C. Wagner, Sparrow, Hannan, Hunt, Chandler etc and maybe one of pick 3/8 then even if he's the best option of those players we aren't noticeably improving. We've committed to so much depth in that role I'd rather use a list spot on a guy with more upside to really make the number 1 small forward job their own.

     

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      On 04/09/2019 at 22:39, Collar-Jazz-Knee said:

    100%. Proven goal kicker and an improvement on Spargo and ANB.

    That is true, just looking at form and contributions at the coalface. Is Sam Gray worth it? He gives limited indication of vast improvements in form and value to the team we have - but certainly more than Spargo, so far and ANB, to date over a longer timeframe. 

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    After missing out on Elliott, Gray would be a decent fallback option. Not a traditional small forward, but he adds running power and can have an impact. Definitely should be enquiring.

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    Agreed we should be seeing if we can pick him up, that would mean that we dont have to waste our draft picks on another small forward so that we can take the best possible players with our two picks.

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    We could ask Jack what he thinks of him?

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    More a mid or HFF than a small forward. OK-ish but I'm not that sure he fills a need

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      On 25/10/2019 at 21:12, Blistering said:

    We seem to have gone into a shell. 

    Are we associated with anybody at the moment?

    Or just not blabbing.

    We have 6 spots to fill and are clearly not drafting 6,  so we are likely talking to someone.

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      On 27/10/2019 at 01:06, Redleg said:

    Or just not blabbing.

    We have 6 spots to fill and are clearly not drafting 6,  so we are likely talking to someone.

    Murray, Martin and Bennell 

    Draft Young, Stephens/Weightman and a KPF 

    Addresses our needs of speed, skills and X-factor 

     

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      On 27/10/2019 at 01:06, Redleg said:

    Or just not blabbing.

    We have 6 spots to fill and are clearly not drafting 6,  so we are likely talking to someone.

    Not sure that's 100% accurate.

    From what I can gather, this is the list situation:

    AFL LIST SIZE
    38 - 40 senior listed players
    4 - 6 rookies
    Up to 3 cat B rookies
    Maximum total list size of 47 players

    CURRENT DEES LIST
    35 Senior Listed Players
    4 Rookies
    1 Cat B Rookie

    TOTAL = 40

    This means we will be adding between 3-5 senior players, with rookie numbers depending on that final number.

    Still means we'd likely be looking at delisted free agents or the PSD, but if my information is correct, it means 5 is the absolute maximum we can add to our list as far as senior players go.

     

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      On 29/10/2019 at 22:33, Lord Nev said:

     

    This means we will be adding between 3-5 senior players, with rookie numbers depending on that final number.

    Still means we'd likely be looking at delisted free agents or the PSD, but if my information is correct, it means 5 is the absolute maximum we can add to our list as far as senior players go.

     

    Bennell would be rookie listed in my scenario above 

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      On 29/10/2019 at 23:30, sydneydee said:

    Bennell would be rookie listed in my scenario above 

    I'd actually be pretty rapt with your scenario too btw.

    Be interesting to see what happens with Bennell, gut feel is that due to the amount of interest he will get a senior list spot somewhere rather than a rookie spot.

     

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      On 29/10/2019 at 23:30, sydneydee said:

    Bennell would be rookie listed in my scenario above 

    The only issue there is that we currently have four rookies listed so that, if we took Bennell as a rookie it would have to be at the expense of a senior pick. That is, senior list = 39 + rookie list = 5.

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      On 29/10/2019 at 20:00, sydneydee said:

    Murray, Martin and Bennell 

    Draft Young, Stephens/Weightman and a KPF 

    Addresses our needs of speed, skills and X-factor 

     

    Martin looking very unlikely.

    Bennell subject to assessment. I would imagine a medical and attitude evaluation.

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      On 30/10/2019 at 05:37, Elwood 3184 said:

    The only issue there is that we currently have four rookies listed so that, if we took Bennell as a rookie it would have to be at the expense of a senior pick. That is, senior list = 39 + rookie list = 5.

     

      On 29/10/2019 at 22:33, Lord Nev said:

    Not sure that's 100% accurate.

    From what I can gather, this is the list situation:

    AFL LIST SIZE
    38 - 40 senior listed players
    4 - 6 rookies
    Up to 3 cat B rookies
    Maximum total list size of 47 players

    CURRENT DEES LIST
    35 Senior Listed Players
    4 Rookies
    1 Cat B Rookie

    TOTAL = 40

    This means we will be adding between 3-5 senior players, with rookie numbers depending on that final number.

    Still means we'd likely be looking at delisted free agents or the PSD, but if my information is correct, it means 5 is the absolute maximum we can add to our list as far as senior players go.

     

     

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    Probably going to Sydney unfortunately.

    Shame as i think he would have improved our forward line for next to nothing.

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      On 30/10/2019 at 07:52, ding said:

    Probably going to Sydney unfortunately.

    Shame as i think he would have improved our forward line for next to nothing.

    Looking very likely now that Menzel has been delisted.

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      On 30/10/2019 at 08:03, ben russell said:

    Looking very likely now that Menzel has been delisted.

    Yep, he didnt want to leave Port but they didnt want him. My info is fairly solid that Sydney is his destination.  We will see soon enough.

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