4 minutes ago, Demonland said:

Disappointed that I didn't get to use this pic I made. 

Haha Elliott looks like a Thunderbird Employee in that shot!!

44 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

I don’t think it is rubbish at all. 

That is how bad 2019 was. How can you look at it any differently. We still don’t really know how well Goodwin can Coach. 

Fagan or Goodwin...?

Goodwin’s 2018 Dees won their first two finals.

Fagan’s 2019 Lions lost their only two finals.

Who knows what Fagan’s 2020 will be like?

I’d say that at this point in time they’re probably level pegging.

12 minutes ago, hardtack said:

Goodwin’s 2018 Dees won their first two finals.

Fagan’s 2019 Lions lost their only two finals.

Who knows what Fagan’s 2020 will be like?

I’d say that at this point in time they’re probably level pegging.

I doubt The Lions will crash as hard as we did, but 2020 will tell. 

Regardless 2019 will make it harder to entice Players across. 

We need a forward badly

15 minutes ago, Moonshadow said:

Not having a crack, not being a defeatist either.

You think Elliot didn't come to us because of Goschs?

I'd say he was always going to stay or go to Brisbane, where he spent his youth and where his bro lives. Also probably because we might be outbid in terms of amount per year.

Our facilities aren't the best, but they haven't deterred May, Lever, Hibberd, Melk, Tomlinson or Langdon

It is not an absolute, he would be very familiar with our facilities, why would he downgrade?  People only do that for money. Obviously when you have 12 or more million dollars each year to pay players you are going to attract some players. Hardly an exciting list of recruits over 5 or more years. One flag between them. Best and fairests? 

I don't know what all the hype is about......Elliott was never, ever, going to come to the MFC as much as we all would have liked to see it transpire.

Fagan is probably the best coach outside of Clarkson.

13 minutes ago, Sorry kids said:

It is not an absolute, he would be very familiar with our facilities, why would he downgrade?  People only do that for money. Obviously when you have 12 or more million dollars each year to pay players you are going to attract some players. Hardly an exciting list of recruits over 5 or more years. One flag between them. Best and fairests? 

Just trying to be positive, rather wallow in constant negativity. So we have terrible facilities, terrible players, and can't do anything right. Got it.

Carry on!

8 minutes ago, Laughing Goat said:

I don't know what all the hype is about......Elliott was never, ever, going to come to the MFC as much as we all would have liked to see it transpire.

Fagan is probably the best coach outside of Clarkson.

Bloke by the name of Hardwick goes alright..

23 minutes ago, Moonshadow said:

Just trying to be positive, rather wallow in constant negativity. So we have terrible facilities, terrible players, and can't do anything right. Got it.

Carry on!

I admire you being positive. I went to games for decades, literally, thinking we were a chance to win every week. However the Club needs to be entirely and brutally honest with where they are at as of now. None of us really know what next year will bring on the field but we can control things like our environment, facilities, coaching personal and so on. All of those things must be open to scrutiny just like most of us and most organizations have to deal with on a constant basis. 

2 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

I don’t think it is rubbish at all. 

That is how bad 2019 was. How can you look at it any differently. We still don’t really know how well Goodwin can Coach. 

Fagan or Goodwin...?

I understand and it's been heavily documented on here that Goodwin is under pressure

You'd hope that any genuine prospects that want to come to the club would not make a superficial decision based on one bad year?

Following that logic, surely StK and Carlton would have no one wanting to join them?

Oh, wait... 

2 hours ago, Sorry kids said:

May and lever prove the point that we have to pay overs to attract quality players. Sorry but if you do not think the playing arena is not of critical importance you are wrong and go against the MFC stated aim of finding an MCG sized venue for training.

What are you talking about? How much did Collingwood pay for Treloar? Essendon for Shiel and Richmond for Prestia?

Strawman argument.

17 minutes ago, jumbo returns said:

I understand and it's been heavily documented on here that Goodwin is under pressure

You'd hope that any genuine prospects that want to come to the club would not make a superficial decision based on one bad year?

You can hope that. I think certain players have done exactly that. We were lucky to 5 games, could have easily been 2 games for the year, plus we lost the last 7 coming home. There was no improvement after the bye. 

There is no way Player Managers are going to be pushing The MFC as a good destination. It is a great prospect for Assistant Coaches, as a challenge, but i don’t think players would view it that way, not this year. We (the Club) did cause damage this year, there will be ramifications because of it. 

It will be a tough 10 days trading for us

Other Clubs just buy up, we are right down the pecking order this year

1 hour ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Bloke by the name of Hardwick goes alright..

yes good call.....not a bad resume'

25 minutes ago, A F said:

What are you talking about? How much did Collingwood pay for Treloar? Essendon for Shiel and Richmond for Prestia?

Strawman argument.

I am not interested in what other Clubs do. 

4 hours ago, praha said:

Embarrassing if Brisbane pipe us here and he ends up in QLD.

Are we going to boo Elliot like we booed Judd because we were mad he didn't choose us?

Why is it embarrassing?

2 minutes ago, Demons11 said:

Why is it embarrassing?

Because we courted him all year, but they just jumped in at the last minute. We also offered more than them, so it’s a direct slap in the face. Once again we miss out on the talent and have to settle for discards and NQRs. Nothing changes with this club

10 minutes ago, Lord Travis said:

Because we courted him all year, but they just jumped in at the last minute. We also offered more than them, so it’s a direct slap in the face. Once again we miss out on the talent and have to settle for discards and NQRs. Nothing changes with this club

Do you actually really believe they courted him in the last minute?

Seldom has there been a thread as full of BS as this one.

Yea, No, No Thanks..............!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

22 minutes ago, Sorry kids said:

I am not interested in what other Clubs do. 

But our according to you our facilities are relatively poor - relative to what? Make up your mind.

Edited October 7, 20195 yr by Fifty-5

20 minutes ago, Sorry kids said:

I am not interested in what other Clubs do.

Right. So you want to comment on the market, without any knowledge of the market, and you want us to take you seriously?

19 minutes ago, Demons11 said:

Do you actually really believe they courted him in the last minute?

Yeh that’s rubbish that Brisbane jumped in at the last minute, they didn’t offer Christensen or Taylor new contracts during the season and they’re still yet to be offered contracts. Both are small forwards, my money’s on Brisbane waiting to see what Elliott does before Taylor and Christensen are re-signed. 

Brisbane have been after Elliott for some time. 

Edited October 7, 20195 yr by Ethan Tremblay

5 hours ago, Nasher said:

Because Elliott is infinity times better than Kent?

 

5 hours ago, Demonland said:

I think he was referring to Garlett but your point would still be correct. 

Edit: actually he might have been referring to Kent. 

He was referring to Kent.

It seems like a lot of time and effort and expense just to end up with an injury prone small forward on a 3 year deal. After we'd booted one such for wanting a 3 year deal.

I concede that Elliott is the more dangerous player, but not by so much that it's worth all the palaver.

All moot now anyway.

1 hour ago, Moonshadow said:

Following that logic, surely StK and Carlton would have no one wanting to join them?

Oh, wait... 

Difference is that there's a general expectation to compete at those clubs. Competitive people often like to be in competitive environments.

The players efforts of 2019 have resigned us to having to build again through the draft (that outcome may not actually be the worst thing). Hopefully we can uncover a couple of people with the kind of drive to compete and show linear type improvement through to their late 20's (and maybe become the second person at MFC to do that since Jones started).

15 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

Yeh that’s rubbish that Brisbane jumped in at the last minute, they didn’t offer Christensen or Taylor new contracts during the season and they’re still yet to be offered contracts. Both are small forwards, my money’s on Brisbane waiting to see what Elliott does before Taylor and Christensen are re-signed. 

Brisbane have been after Elliott for some time. 

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