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50 minutes ago, praha said:

Embarrassing if Brisbane pipe us here and he ends up in QLD.

Are we going to boo Elliot like we booed Judd because we were mad he didn't choose us?

omg im sooo embarrassed now  

you are trying to hard to fuel outrage

 

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Posted
16 minutes ago, A F said:

Haha, I don't have the dreaded MFCSS. Mahoney has never laid his cards out before without knowing the answer to the question being asked.

I did say in this thread over the weekend that there may be an ulterior motive for mentioning contract length.

Look, it probably doesn't matter to be honest...

It just gives the hand wringers something else to cry about. 

Posted
32 minutes ago, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

Not for a couple of years though.  Should be a great facility, but Elliot won’t see much of it.

My point was that Brisbane now appears to be a very attractive club for players for many reasons - just not their facilities.

We also tend to exaggerate how bad our facilities at AAMI are.  They’re very good, just not exclusively ours. 

Goschs Paddock- Very good, compared to what?   And do not get technical and refer to non footy ground area. It is an embarrassment and a deterrent.

Posted
29 minutes ago, A F said:

He clarified the contract length. No need to say anything.

Interview was on Saturday, Elliott informed Melbourne on Saturday - presumably prior to interview. Mahoney gave naught away as potential trade was already rejected.

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37 minutes ago, Whispering_Jack said:

The likelihood is that this was always a case of a player manager using another club’s willingness to bargain in order to get the best possible deal for a 27 year old client who has been injury prone for the last two years. He wanted to prize out the extra year for Elliott and found us agreeable to the three year term. 

I was never convinced about Elliott and am fine with the situation. I don’t believe this has an ramifications about us being a destination club either. I’m sure Josh  Mahoney is moving on.

This

Posted
26 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

If we had had a solid 2019 players like Elliott would have come across I believe. 

We are back in the “Can’t be trusted” category 

 

That's rubbish SWYL and you know it

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All teams get rejected all the time by players due to

  • length of contract (long term security)
  • $ of contract
  • $ of contract compared to others
  • pitched role within the football system
  • experiences of friends within 'said' clubs system

With Elliott rejecting us, its all and none of those things.... there is no shame in it.

What would be shameful is OPENING THE WARCHEST for multiple big name players and having that become public knowledge post player rejecting us. A la North a few years back.

 

 

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If you don't ask then you don't receive.  Not every player we chase will end up at the club, and this year that player is Elliott.  Didn't hurt us to ask the question and put a contract in front of him, and thankfully he has told us his intentions on the first day of the trade period so we still have time to use that cash in other ways, or keep it to re-sign others next year.

Onwards and upwards.

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Posted
40 minutes ago, A F said:

He clarified the contract length. No need to say anything.

Why? i mean all he said is we offered a three year contract, how someone can find a reason to blame JM is so Melbourne. We are worse that Richmond when they were no good, we eat our won like no other team.

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7 minutes ago, jumbo returns said:

That's rubbish SWYL and you know it

I don’t think it is rubbish at all. 

That is how bad 2019 was. How can you look at it any differently. We still don’t really know how well Goodwin can Coach. 

Fagan or Goodwin...?

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17 minutes ago, Sorry kids said:

Goschs Paddock- Very good, compared to what?   And do not get technical and refer to non footy ground area. It is an embarrassment and a deterrent.

Yet Collingwood won a flag out of Goschs in 2010. Go figure!

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1 minute ago, Moonshadow said:

Yet Collingwood won a flag out of Goschs in 2010. Go figure!

They must have scorched the earth when they left.

 

Posted
59 minutes ago, Engorged Onion said:

Interview was on Saturday, Elliott informed Melbourne on Saturday - presumably prior to interview. Mahoney gave naught away as potential trade was already rejected.

My point was our strategy probably should have been to say he's not coming if that's the case. Even do a Hawthorn and say we never offered anything.

But, I've gone back on knocking Mahoney here. It's all good. It's really small in the scheme of things and not worth even pointing out.

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30 minutes ago, Sorry kids said:

Goschs Paddock- Very good, compared to what?   And do not get technical and refer to non footy ground area. It is an embarrassment and a deterrent.

Didn’t say they were great, said people exaggerate how poor they are.  ‘Embarrassment’ and ‘deterrent’ back up my point.  They certainly didn’t deter May and Lever who were courted by many clubs.

Would the players even spend 1/10th of their time at Gosch’s Paddock?

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7 minutes ago, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

Didn’t say they were great, said people exaggerate how poor they are.  ‘Embarrassment’ and ‘deterrent’ back up my point.  They certainly didn’t deter May and Lever who were courted by many clubs.

Would the players even spend 1/10th of their time at Gosch’s Paddock?

May and lever prove the point that we have to pay overs to attract quality players. Sorry but if you do not think the playing arena is not of critical importance you are wrong and go against the MFC stated aim of finding an MCG sized venue for training.

Posted
28 minutes ago, Moonshadow said:

Yet Collingwood won a flag out of Goschs in 2010. Go figure!

10 years on a new generation of players and an arms race in facilities mean it is not acceptable or AFL standard. Honestly you are just having a crack, if you cannot agree our facilities are sub standard for the multi billion dollar industry we compete in.

Posted
6 minutes ago, Sorry kids said:

May and lever prove the point that we have to pay overs to attract quality players. Sorry but if you do not think the playing arena is not of critical importance you are wrong and go against the MFC stated aim of finding an MCG sized venue for training.

Again, you’re countering my claims of exaggeration with more exaggeration.

Agree to disagree.

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11 minutes ago, Sorry kids said:

10 years on a new generation of players and an arms race in facilities mean it is not acceptable or AFL standard. Honestly you are just having a crack, if you cannot agree our facilities are sub standard for the multi billion dollar industry we compete in.

Not having a crack, not being a defeatist either.

You think Elliot didn't come to us because of Goschs?

I'd say he was always going to stay or go to Brisbane, where he spent his youth and where his bro lives. Also probably because we might be outbid in terms of amount per year.

Our facilities aren't the best, but they haven't deterred May, Lever, Hibberd, Melk, Tomlinson or Langdon

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