5 minutes ago, bing181 said:

Don't disagree - but for whatever reason, he's often a really poor decision maker once he gets it.

Possibly  simply the difference  in pace and pressure of Bigboys v magoos. He just seems to undo a lot of reasonable work with half baked disposals.  A shame

24 minutes ago, binman said:

Lever has cost us 3 goals. Can't kick or play one on one. 

...... but other than that he has some good traits 

11 minutes ago, DubDee said:

Bizarrely seems like

left of screen is the goal kicking end. We should of had 5 goals first Q. Would still be a tight game 

can’t kick for [censored]

?

35 minutes ago, olisik said:

Can’t beleive we payed 2 first rounders for Lever. Is constantly in no mans land.

You don't have to, because in the total trade, we didn't.

But carry on.

No skill, no effort.

7 minutes ago, Deesprate said:

You obviously missed where he turned the ball over and cost us a goal. JKH no future at all

Name one of his teammates who hasn’t done that this season. 

The pattern of starting Jones (as wing) and then having him shuffle across to CHB, whilst the HBF moves to between CHB and the centre circle is very pretty; doesn’t do any good of course.

Why wasn't Hore selected? Hibberd should be dropped along with Oscar

1 minute ago, beelzebub said:

Possibly  simply the difference  in pace and pressure of Bigboys v magoos. He just seems to undo a lot of reasonable work with half baked disposals.  A shame

Similar to Stretch in that regard. I sometimes think (hope ...) that with these kinds of players it'll come with experience, but not the case so far with either of them.

It's interesting watching May. He's a good footballer

Was nice to see a clean centre clearance

JKH been good in close, played well so far apart from that one bad turn over. If you want to write him off for a mistake like that send most of this team on their way as well. 

2 minutes ago, Rusty Nails said:

We would be as close to par with the current Pies forward line as you are ever likely to see in this team's generation coach and they blew us away in 20 minutes of bog ordinary footy.

If you wish to delude yourself that everything will be fine because a year date will change on a calender that is your prerogative.

Oscar into the ruck and HF?  What  possible benefit / message is that sending the rest of the playing group?

I know what i would be thinking.

Maybe we should rename ourselves the Melbourne Excuses?  How about the DumbAzzes?  The Rabbles?

I’m as annoyed as you rusty about where we sit however your shotgun approach to the issue may not be as effective as you think in correcting the situation.

How the [censored] is that advantage. Maynard stood still. It needs to be ‘flowing’

Jones FMD !

8 minutes ago, stevethemanjordan said:

You pick up only on his turnovers. 

I don't get it. 

Yes, he most definitely needs to tidy up his kicking at times but think about how many goals or opportunities at goal he has saved by either making a genuine killer spoil, intercept marking or out-bodying his opponent to mark. 

Lever has been very very good this game aside from a few kicking blunders. 

Yes he has done sone good tgings. As he should given his ability and paycheck.

But a very, very good game?

We must have different metrics for a defender. Has cost us 4 goals in s low scoring game we are down by 3 goals. 

Endeavour was promising in the first quarter, although the goal kicking was the same rubbish. Then it went back to handpasses to no one, gifting the opposition easy marks, not holding tackles. Varcoe did nothing until that ball fell in his hands courtesy of a bad Melbourne kick. Poor umpiring as per usual. Grrrrrrrrr.....?

Hibberd, Melksham, Jones, Hunt - all bludging.

someone give the Maggots a tape measure fff

Baker coming back on heavily strapped

Dropping the ball?

Jesus that was too easy by the pies. We are [censored] atrocious 

3 minutes ago, binman said:

Yes he has done sone good tgings. As he should given his ability and paycheck.

But a very, very good game?

We must have different metrics for a defender. Has cost us 4 goals in s low scoring game we are down by 3 goals. 

You need to watch more closely. 

He most certainly hasn't cost us four. 

Maybe concentrate on Oscar. Did you see his turning circle just then? 

 

Disgusting lack of pressure. I’m over watching us do the same [censored] every week. 

And another to the turnover score stat to Collingwood 

This is just too tragic to keep watching. 

I’m out.