Come on mate, you go out of your way to find things to whinge about and criticise the club continually.  I doubt there is a single Demon fan who is happy with what has transpired this season,  but bleating on an internet forum doesn't help anybody.   Unless it makes you feel better?  Or maybe you're just a troll?

*responding to Sorry poster, not DemonOx!

Edited August 8, 20195 yr by demonstone
clarity

  On 08/08/2019 at 08:11, DemonOX said:

All comes down to interpretation sue. 

No, DOX, I think you extrapolated rather than interpreted what he actually said.  Your extrapolation may well be right (I have no idea) but it was beyond the literal meaning of his words.

  On 08/08/2019 at 07:59, Sorry kids said:

I think he should focus on answering with just mature supporters in mind and not worry about the media.

And where does he find them?

  On 08/08/2019 at 04:43, Sir Why You Little said:

Agree totally. But he has to put it out there soon otherwise he is out of a job. 

With The Filth’s injury we should win, but i know we won’t. 

We are not fit enough to play Goodwin Football. 

Why is this allowed to happen...

Yeh i agree. We should be looking to knock off the filth this weekend... and we won't.

I can't answer those questions as i don't know the exact reasons why we've dropped the ball (pardon the pun). But i think there are a lot of balls in thr air on this one (my personal opinion)

No doubt Goody needs to put some Ws on the board. 

But like i said you don't get gifted captaincy at an afl premier. Hes got 6 months to sort it out.

Why panic, it's not like change will change our fortunes? History says we arent likey to become a successful club. Whats the worst thing that could happen by giving him a go at attempting to build something? We will still suck?

 

 

Edited August 8, 20195 yr by Unleash Hell

Here's a little something I'll share from a contact I have.

Recently, Goody spoke at an event to a small group, (I won't divulge) but there were no media in attendance.

The first thing I'll say is that both my source and I have been critical of Goodwin and his media performances in the past, however at this event he was very different, was honest and opened up a great deal more regarding this season.

Some talking points and discussion:

* The disruption and snowball effect the pre-season surgeries had cannot be underestimated. Didn't have nearly enough time with the players to not only get the required conditioning in, but to run and trial drills, build cohesion etc etc.. (We all know it's had an impact but he stressed the point again).

* He believed in some ways that we were lucky to make the prelim with the list we had. We were slightly ahead of where he thought we should be by the end of last year and the hype that followed us into this season was too much.

* There are some issues with staff and coaches right now and there will be big changes made end of year. (The event was held before the McCartney news broke)

* The main message was that there will be some big changes to both playing list and staff at the end of the year. He doesn't believe we have the list to take us to the promised land.

* Goody didn't say this but my source got the impression that a captaincy change up could be on the cards. (Gawn).

 

I'll put my hand up to say that normally I'm hyper critical of Goodwin in media interviews for the lack of insight and information he shares, but I was assured that he was a completely different character away from the camera. 

Thought I'd share, looking forward to the end of this year.

 

 

  On 08/08/2019 at 05:04, Sorry kids said:

When did Goodwin captain a Premiership team UH?

I assumed. Cbf looking up when he captained them.

Does it really change the point or do u think they give any goose leadership positions.

By the way maybe you can use this opportunity to advise us on your thought and experience of leadership in professional or even non professional organizations

If that is true Steve then bring on the end of the year.

  On 08/08/2019 at 08:58, Unleash Hell said:

I assumed. Cbf looking up when he captained them.

Does it really change the point or do u think they give any goose leadership positions.

By the way maybe you can use this opportunity to advise us on your thought and experience of leadership in professional or even non professional organizations

Well he did not Captain a Premiership side-fact. Yes it changes his point significantly. Premiership Captains are highly regarded. He made the statement to make Goody seem impressive , not me.

Goody had not success as an assistant at Essendon. Fact

Five years in at MFC we are 17th. Fact

 

 

  On 08/08/2019 at 09:07, Sorry kids said:

Well he did not Captain a Premiership side-fact. Yes it changes his point significantly. Premiership Captains are highly regarded. He made the state mentioned to make Goody seem impressive , not me.

Goody had not success as an assistant at Essendon. Fact

Five years in at MFC we are 17th. Fact

 

 

20 years ago is a long time. Fact

The point is no less valid.. fact

Thanks for contributing your usual dribble..... fact

Edited August 8, 20195 yr by Unleash Hell

  On 08/08/2019 at 09:07, Sorry kids said:

Five years in at MFC we are 17th. Fact

3 years as senior coach... fact

Assistant coaches do not win flags...fact

Improvement on ladder position in first 2 years... fact

  On 08/08/2019 at 08:20, sue said:

No, DOX, I think you extrapolated rather than interpreted what he actually said.  Your extrapolation may well be right (I have no idea) but it was beyond the literal meaning of his words.

Yeah ok Sue. 

  On 08/08/2019 at 08:54, stevethemanjordan said:

Here's a little something I'll share from a contact I have.

Recently, Goody spoke at an event to a small group, (I won't divulge) but there were no media in attendance.

The first thing I'll say is that both my source and I have been critical of Goodwin and his media performances in the past, however at this event he was very different, was honest and opened up a great deal more regarding this season.

Some talking points and discussion:

* The disruption and snowball effect the pre-season surgeries had cannot be underestimated. Didn't have nearly enough time with the players to not only get the required conditioning in, but to run and trial drills, build cohesion etc etc.. (We all know it's had an impact but he stressed the point again).

* He believed in some ways that we were lucky to make the prelim with the list we had. We were slightly ahead of where he thought we should be by the end of last year and the hype that followed us into this season was too much.

* There are some issues with staff and coaches right now and there will be big changes made end of year. (The event was held before the McCartney news broke)

* The main message was that there will be some big changes to both playing list and staff at the end of the year. He doesn't believe we have the list to take us to the promised land.

* Goody didn't say this but my source got the impression that a captaincy change up could be on the cards. (Gawn).

 

I'll put my hand up to say that normally I'm hyper critical of Goodwin in media interviews for the lack of insight and information he shares, but I was assured that he was a completely different character away from the camera. 

Thought I'd share, looking forward to the end of this year.

 

 

Thanks for sharing the info Steve. 

  On 08/08/2019 at 08:25, Sorry kids said:

I am not your mate and will continue to post things when I think the Club I have followed for 55 years gets things wrong and in my opinion they got the process of selecting Goodwin wrong and we are paying for it now. So you stay in la la land and believe that was a press conference worthy of someone being paid something like $800.000 per year. You are on ignore.

You haven’t asked him for a coffee?! The club has got everything wrong in your mind. 

  On 08/08/2019 at 08:25, Sorry kids said:

I am not your mate and will continue to post things when I think the Club I have followed for 55 years gets things wrong and in my opinion they got the process of selecting Goodwin wrong and we are paying for it now. So you stay in la la land and believe that was a press conference worthy of someone being paid something like $800.000 per year. You are on ignore.

Good lord. Are you really an advanced AI software program?

Maybe the Russians have infiltrated DL

  On 08/08/2019 at 10:04, binman said:

Good lord. Are you really an advanced AI software program?

Maybe the Russians have infiltrated DL

I read your post first then the quoted one. It sounded much better in Russian robot voice. 

  On 08/08/2019 at 03:53, Sir Why You Little said:

Goodwin inspires me less with each passing weel...

Let it go, SWYL - 2019 is a write off

2020 awaits

Gees there’s some grumpy old bastards out today.

Dark, wet and cold.

  On 08/08/2019 at 10:06, Ethan Tremblay said:

I read your post first then the quoted one. It sounded much better in Russian robot voice. 

I couldn't resist doing it too.

Though it ended up sounding more lime the south african bad gut (the blonde one) on die hard

  On 08/08/2019 at 04:45, Melb16 said:

I always find this stance interesting. Not having a go at you as I’m just generally interested, but what would you like him to say?

Butting in... I want him to straight bat with more confidence.

I'd like Goody to say "the game style requires all 18 on the field to function at a very high level. When it doesn't work it fails completely, but when it does work it's football that will win finals".

I agree with @Sorry kids that his media impression matters to the players, even subconciously. However, I also believe @stevethemanjordan that Goody is a world different when not on camera.

Goodwin is making a lot of mistakes, but he's learning...

  On 08/08/2019 at 10:09, jumbo returns said:

Let it go, SWYL - 2019 is a write off

2020 awaits

Yes it is a write off. That is exactly what worries me the most

  On 08/08/2019 at 10:58, Sir Why You Little said:

Yes it is a write off. That is exactly what worries me the most

And, like you have said (and many others) he's got half a seaso to turn it around

  On 08/08/2019 at 10:13, In Harmes Way said:

Gees there’s some grumpy old bastards out today.

Dark, wet and cold.

Hey! Who you calling grumpy?? :)

  On 08/08/2019 at 11:08, jumbo returns said:

And, like you have said (and many others) he's got half a seaso to turn it around

Yes, but I expected to hear a different persona as that turning cycle has begun. 

Saturday will be like the rest. We will show great effort, and our scoring will dry up in the 3rd Quarter...

 

  On 08/08/2019 at 11:09, jumbo returns said:

Hey! Who you calling grumpy??

Don’t have a problem with old though jumbo!

  On 08/08/2019 at 08:54, stevethemanjordan said:

* The main message was that there will be some big changes to both playing list and staff at the end of the year. He doesn't believe we have the list to take us to the promised land.

Thanks for the info 'steve'...

This is what I've been banging on about.

Happy to know we are not falling for the hype, that's been a real issue with other clubs in the past.

When a club overrates it's list it ends up in tears...