We're a long way off a really good basic football team. Our fundamentals are deplorable at times." Max Gawn speaks on Melbourne's nightmare season

Well at least he just tells it as it is. 

Just now, Sorry kids said:

Saints had good players out too. You are talking schoolyard stuff and not looking at the issues

And you obviously aren’t interested in statistical fact, which is precisely what I was presenting. Yes, we’re playing badly, and it’s f***ing horrible to watch, but your juvenile response does nothing to rebut that our performance reflect the facts as they are.  

31 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

OSCAR McDonald, Wagner's, ANB get the [censored] out of this football club you spuds!

I have been a Goodwin but not anymore! I am done!

Nothing positive to come put of this dreadful performance. 

isnt oscar doing a preseason midseason?  oh thats y hes 10m off his man

Just now, Sorry kids said:

I woud have kept playing Preuss with strict instruction to run run run. Get him match conditioned this year.

Eg [censored] zactly

Just now, Webber said:

And you obviously aren’t interested in statistical fact, which is precisely what I was presenting. Yes, we’re playing badly, and it’s f***ing horrible to watch, but your juvenile response does nothing to rebut that our performance reflect the facts as they are.  

On ignore

Just now, Sorry kids said:

I woud have kept playing Preuss with strict instruction to run run run. Get him match conditioned this year.

You saw his leg last week yeah? Add that to his already horrible tank and that 'run run run' would last about 8 minutes.

Plenty of time for running during the week.

6 minutes ago, Webber said:

So the fact that we have had the most players unavailable week to week of any club this season, and up to round 12 (it could be still) of any club in the AFL EVER means nothing to you over-reactive clowns? The single most reliable stat to predict a club’s ladder position is players unavailable week to week, thus through a season. Not speculation or supposition....this is fact. Nobody wants to talk about it because it takes the art discussion out of the game. We are where we are because week to week we have been playing with a decimated list. Brisbane are 2nd for the opposite reason. 

Rubbish.

Look at Richmond. Number 1 defender - out. Number 1 forward out. Number 1 ruckman - out. Yet, they still remain competitive.

Why? Becuase they have a solid foundation and are well drilled.

Dont put this inept performance (performances really) down to injury.

1 minute ago, Moonshadow said:

See ya.

Come on Moons. Were you ok with that [censored]?

1 minute ago, Return to Glory said:

I actually think Viney has been playing like this for a while. He developed a reputation as a tough-as-nails player but that doesn't mean he has to dive into packs without thinking through what he wants to do.

His 'dive' is more artful now than his footballing skills, the [censored].

Tim Smith and the Wagners are VFL standard. Nothing more.

still, no review needed

2 minutes ago, Stand and Deeliver said:

Champion Data also over-rated the list. According to Channel 7 we were to ranked at the start of the season.

Lots of explaining all round

If anyone needed any reminding not to place any credence in Champion Data's rankings, take note now

1 minute ago, Deemania since 56 said:

His 'dive' is more artful now than his footballing skills, the [censored].

He's not alone in this but he's been exposed of late for mine.

1 minute ago, DSP said:

Rubbish.

Look at Richmond. Number 1 defender - out. Number 1 forward out. Number 1 ruckman - out. Yet, they still remain competitive.

Why? Becuase they have a solid foundation and are well drilled.

Dont put this inept performance (performances really) down to injury.

Wow. You guys just don’t get it. Read carefully.....total games unavailable from the WHOLE list have a near to linear relationship to ladder position across a season. It’s NOT my opinion, it’s a stat, a fact, not a theory. 

13 minutes ago, dees189227 said:

 Anyway Im going to cheer myself up and go to you tube and look at highlights from the 2 final victories last year. Just remind myself that we were a good team and we actually put geelong and the hawks out of the finals and I wasn't dreaming it. 

You'll also see due to our terrible skills we made hard forken work of both those games.

8 minutes ago, dees189227 said:

We're a long way off a really good basic football team. Our fundamentals are deplorable at times." Max Gawn speaks on Melbourne's nightmare season

Well at least he just tells it as it is. 

Good of him to say, but we can all see that as plain as day.

What's important is the rectification. There's been absolutely nothing in response to the ineptitude.

This time last year were were siting 6th having just beaten adelaide. Oh how things change. Back to reality. 

By the way we play richmond next week. I'm already scared of the result. 

Pretty obvious we need to run through another anti-online bullying banner.

Edited July 27, 20196 yr by Fork 'em

Too many B graders, and with our bookends out in TMac and May we just are not cutting the mustard.

1 minute ago, Webber said:

Wow. You guys just don’t get it. Read carefully.....total games unavailable from the WHOLE list have a near to linear relationship to ladder position across a season. It’s NOT my opinion, it’s a stat, a fact, not a theory. 

Whatever floats your boat. Go and join the old ducks that used to clap the boys off after the hidings we used to get week in/week out.

You can spin stats any way you want. We were putrid. End of story.

2 minutes ago, Webber said:

Wow. You guys just don’t get it. Read carefully.....total games unavailable from the WHOLE list have a near to linear relationship to ladder position across a season. It’s NOT my opinion, it’s a stat, a fact, not a theory. 

Injuries or not - what we're all watching is disgusting football. 

I would love to see winning football by a team that is so injured it simply can't carry it out. Instead, we get a team that has no plan with or without the ball.

14 minutes ago, FireInTheBelly said:

Of course it wouldn't. Another stupid decision by the match panel. Who would care if we lost whilst getting games into Dunkley, Lockhart, the 2 ruck system in Preuss.

Tonight was just dumb, as a professional football club this was a fail. Lewis, Wagners, OMac. Even Smith who isn't the future. No club in the current environment would've made these selection decisions.

Lewis i get for on field coaching and can play half a match or so with some impact and decent finish / decision making.

The two wags give some sort of contest for a half.

Smith & Omac should not be playing vs Pruess & anyone for Oscar who has height and a bit of speed off the mark & athleticism.

Coaching panel is clueless at selection and maintaining cohesion / faith with those who are likely to be around next year vs those that wont (shouldn't!).

Edited July 27, 20196 yr by Rusty Nails

Culture.

We are faarked just like the Melbourne building and recycling industry.

Not even the slimmest chance of recruiting Brad Hill now surely. i can't see any injection of outside pace having much effect if they're not skilled players as Ed Langdon is said to not be. We could use another elite midfielder to pick up the slack for when Clarry is tagged. You'd throw the kitchen sink at Coniglio but he wouldnt touch us with a 10 foot pole.