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On 4/29/2019 at 9:06 PM, Pennant St Dee said:

Yeah those risks they took on Dayle Garlett second time around, Beau Muston after his car crash really worked out.

Ffs they've picked up plenty of duds along the way as have other clubs.

We're not exclusive here

Don't forget Tyrone Vickery

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    1 hour ago, Matsuo Basho said:

    See you and raise you.

     

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    I think we all now realise you a hawks fan. 

    Dont let the door hit you on the way out

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    Just now, Deefiant said:

    Don't forget Tyrone Vickery

    Shaun Burgoyne, Brian Lake, Brent Guerra, Josh Gibson,  David Hale, Ben McEvoy, Jack Gunston, James Frawley, Tom Mitchell, Jaeger OMeara, Tom Scully, Chad Wingard.

     

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    2 minutes ago, DubDee said:

    I think we all now realise you a hawks fan. 

    Dont let the door hit you on the way out

    Nope. Melbourne fan.

    But also a fan of success. How about you? 

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    12 hours ago, Matsuo Basho said:

    When it comes to trading and recruiting some clubs go at 75/25. Others 50/50, the unsuccessful clubs (ie. us) more like 25/75. 

    No-one’s perfect sure but to suggest all clubs get 50% right and 50% wrong is clearly nonsense. 

    Hawthorn haven’t won 4 flags in ten years for no reason. Beau Dowler and Ty Vickery are among exceptions to a veritable cavalcade of successes. 

    Its embarrassing reading our supporters, Moonshadow and others, pot Hawthorn in this thread. Flat out embarrassing.

     Hawks built their nucleus for their flags  by absolutely nailing 2 drafts and then just topped up from 2010 onwards when the expansion clubs came in

    2001 - Hodge, Mitchell, Ladson, Brown

    2004 - Roughie, Franklin, Lewis, Taylor 

    Cats did the same in 2 drafts

    1999 - Corey, Chapman, Ling  Enright

    2001 - Bartel, Kelly, Stevie J, Ablett, 

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    So' @Matsuo Basho'...have the Hawks declared they are after Paton or is it one of those media stories?

    ...or do you have some inside intel form the Hawks that he is a target?

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    7 hours ago, Pennant St Dee said:

     Hawks built their nucleus for their flags  by absolutely nailing 2 drafts and then just topped up from 2010 onwards when the expansion clubs came in

    2001 - Hodge, Mitchell, Ladson, Brown

    2004 - Roughie, Franklin, Lewis, Taylor 

    Cats did the same in 2 drafts

    1999 - Corey, Chapman, Ling  Enright

    2001 - Bartel, Kelly, Stevie J, Ablett, 

    Of course they did. That's not the discussion. The discussion was about the quality of their recruiting from other clubs. Some posters opined that it's a 50/50 hit and miss rate across all clubs. Clearly that's not true.Under Clarkson Hawthorn have shot the lights out 80-90% of the time. If they believe Patton is going to make a successful comeback, so should we. 

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    9 hours ago, rjay said:

    So' @Matsuo Basho'...have the Hawks declared they are after Paton or is it one of those media stories?

    ...or do you have some inside intel form the Hawks that he is a target?

     

    2 hours ago, Matsuo Basho said:

    If they believe Patton is going to make a successful comeback, so should we. 

    Since you've avoided the question, let me ask again....

    Where have they said they are after Paton?

    Where they say they believe Paton will make a successful comeback?

    ...or is it just a media story that you're basing your arguments on?

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    8 minutes ago, rjay said:

     

    Since you've avoided the question, let me ask again....

    Where have they said they are after Paton?

    Where they say they believe Paton will make a successful comeback?

    ...or is it just a media story that you're basing your arguments on?

    Sorry, missed your question. Media revelations confirmed my personal sources.

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    6 hours ago, Matsuo Basho said:

    Of course they did. That's not the discussion. The discussion was about the quality of their recruiting from other clubs. Some posters opined that it's a 50/50 hit and miss rate across all clubs. Clearly that's not true.Under Clarkson Hawthorn have shot the lights out 80-90% of the time. If they believe Patton is going to make a successful comeback, so should we. 

    It's easy to top up when you've got a nucleus.

    We'll see how good Gragam Wright is building from scratch, bringing O'meara, Mitchell and others in will keep them in finals contention nothing else

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    10 hours ago, Matsuo Basho said:

    Sorry, missed your question. Media revelations confirmed my personal sources.

    Translated:

    "No sources"

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    Another option as a tall forward recruit might be Sam Day from GC17 

    Had a rotten run with injury as well but shouldn’t command anything like the big $$ that Patton is already on and will have to be honoured with

    He's back playing for the neafl side after that horrific hip injury and from what I understand before this weekend he’s starting to get some fitness back

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    28 minutes ago, whatwhatsaywhat said:

    Another option as a tall forward recruit might be Sam Day from GC17 

    Had a rotten run with injury as well but shouldn’t command anything like the big $$ that Patton is already on and will have to be honoured with

    He's back playing for the neafl side after that horrific hip injury and from what I understand before this weekend he’s starting to get some fitness back

    Went no 3 in his draft. I don't know much about him

    Has he performed to anywhere near this ability at senior level? Injuries aside, has he kicked a bag or starred in a match? 

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    9 minutes ago, Moonshadow said:

    Went no 3 in his draft. I don't know much about him

    Has he performed to anywhere near this ability at senior level? Injuries aside, has he kicked a bag or starred in a match? 

    No, never...well, not that I can recall 

    But he’s never had a decent run at it either 

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    On 4/30/2019 at 10:53 PM, Matsuo Basho said:

    Shaun Burgoyne, Brian Lake, Brent Guerra, Josh Gibson,  David Hale, Ben McEvoy, Jack Gunston, James Frawley, Tom Mitchell, Jaeger OMeara, Tom Scully, Chad Wingard.

     

    Doubts about his body but Burgoyne was a superstar, every club would've had him if they could and depending on cost.

    Key backs: Lake, Frawley 
    Rucks: Hale, McEvoy

    Those types were always going to work as they were filling needs in a great side with great culture, fitness staff and so on.

    Gibson was a wonderful pick to get an undersized 3rd tall type and make him a gun CHB in a zone defending system. Guerra similar - take a talent and put them in a new position. Gunston a star on the rise. Mitchell similar, great get to fill a need.

    But O'Meara (given the price), Scully and Wingard the verdict is out and they've had guys like Jon O'Rourke along the way. 

    It would be silly just to try to copy and one up their every move. They've lost their fitness boss to Carlton. They've lost many of their superstar players. They might lose some of their culture. They might lose their coach eventually. 

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    20 minutes ago, whatwhatsaywhat said:

    No, never...well, not that I can recall 

    But he’s never had a decent run at it either 

    I’d consider 112 AFL matches more than a decent run at it. He’s looked decent down back, but rubbish up forward. Combined with injury history and at 26 years of age, I’d pass.

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    Sorry, Patton is not suited for the modern game.

    GWS play better with the more mobile forwards of Cameron and Himmelberg.

    We don't need another slow, one dimensional footballer that's had three knee reco's.

     

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    32 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

    Doubts about his body but Burgoyne was a superstar, every club would've had him if they could and depending on cost.

    Key backs: Lake, Frawley 
    Rucks: Hale, McEvoy

    Those types were always going to work as they were filling needs in a great side with great culture, fitness staff and so on.

    Gibson was a wonderful pick to get an undersized 3rd tall type and make him a gun CHB in a zone defending system. Guerra similar - take a talent and put them in a new position. Gunston a star on the rise. Mitchell similar, great get to fill a need.

    But O'Meara (given the price), Scully and Wingard the verdict is out and they've had guys like Jon O'Rourke along the way. 

    It would be silly just to try to copy and one up their every move. They've lost their fitness boss to Carlton. They've lost many of their superstar players. They might lose some of their culture. They might lose their coach eventually. 

    If Keilty comes along this season, we MAY not need to chase the General.  and hit the draft up.

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    2 hours ago, Lord Travis said:

    I’d consider 112 AFL matches more than a decent run at it. He’s looked decent down back, but rubbish up forward. Combined with injury history and at 26 years of age, I’d pass.

    tbh, i had no idea he was 26 or that he's clocked up over 100 games

    i thought he'd be about 24ish with less than 80 to his name, such as it is with the amount of injuries he's had

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    4 minutes ago, Demonland said:

     

    “Patton has garnered interest from other Victorian clubs but seems certain to eventually find his way to the Hawks in a trade for a mid-range pick given his lack of recent football.”

    ‘Seems certain’ is quite different to ‘is certain’. 

    Still a very interesting cut price option for us as a key forward. Put in the Plan B or C folder in case the Ben Brown deal falls through. 

    A lot of water to go under under the bridge between now and trade week. I would not be surprised in the slightest if we are one of the other Vic clubs to enquire about Patton.

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    Edit - Actually changed my mind about this post, not getting sucked in to this rubbish anymore.

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