On 29/07/2019 at 16:41, John Demonic said:

Caro on Classified reporting they'd ask for pick 2 and probably get it. Judd and lloyd responding that they'd find it hard to believe pick 2 would be given, more like pick 10.

Pick 2 for Brad Hill?

 

  On 29/07/2019 at 16:43, Patches O’houlihan said:

Pick 2 for Brad Hill?

 

Gold Coast priority pick 2, sorry

Edited July 29, 20195 yr by John Demonic

  On 29/07/2019 at 16:41, John Demonic said:

Caro on Classified reporting they'd ask for pick 2 and probably get it. Judd and lloyd responding that they'd find it hard to believe pick 2 would be given, more like pick 10.

Judd also said he thinks Melbourne will make a play for Brad Hill.

  On 29/07/2019 at 16:43, Patches O’houlihan said:

Pick 2 for Brad Hill?

 

No GCS will ask for Pick 2 and retention allowance from the AFL this week. If that happens we need to [censored] pick 3 for two 1st rounders and go aggressive in trade period.

Gold coast getting pick 2 would be an absolute joke. i would give them picks 11 and end of first round in addition to pick 1 which they have, access to state league players and a mini draft selection from the talent pool of 2020 that they can trade this year. that should give them a haul capable of improving even that joke of a list without compromising another draft in the name of a club that has since day 1 been a horrible idea

I didn't Think we could trade this year's first round draft pick??

Ps @Patches O’houlihan go to bed mate! ?

If the AFL happen to give gold coast both 1&2 they might as well give them every b*##! pick in the draft?

I always wonder if both gold coast and the gws were not part of the AFL , the players we could have had on our list?

For &#*@ sake we have been waiting for a flag since 1964, and are still waiting.

 

  On 29/07/2019 at 13:43, Patches O’houlihan said:

Would Angus Brayshaw be up for trade if the right offer came along lets say he netted us Brad Hill & Langdon somehow?

 

Part of deal definitely.

  On 29/07/2019 at 21:22, dazzledavey36 said:

I didn't Think we could trade this year's first round draft pick??

Ps @Patches O’houlihan go to bed mate! ?

Name sound Irish. It's not late in Dublin!

Edited July 29, 20195 yr by John Demonic

the general football public is being set up with the expectation that gc17 will get a pointy end priority pick; i'm firmly of the belief that it'll happen

would be interesting to see how anyone values jog brayshaw - speaking to various supporters of oppo teams at work and none of them want him as they see how lazy he is between the contests and how atrocious his ball use is - as at the moment i'd have him rated at a second round pick, at best 

we might've got a first rounder for him last year if we were brave and traded him while his value was at it's highest point

coniglio is a free agent and, if he's going anywhere, it's likely to be to the hawks so he can play with his best mate jaeger o'meara

i'm convinced brad hill is geelong bound as part of the tim kelly deal, with the latter more than happy to go to either wa side this year, whereas last year he ONLY wanted to go to meth coke

  On 29/07/2019 at 13:43, Patches O’houlihan said:

Would Angus Brayshaw be up for trade if the right offer came along lets say he netted us Brad Hill & Langdon somehow?

 

I would think Brayshaw for Langdon would be a fairer trade to an objective observer. Both about high 2nd rounder in value at the moment

  On 29/07/2019 at 21:22, dazzledavey36 said:

I didn't Think we could trade this year's first round draft pick??

Ps @Patches O’houlihan go to bed mate! ?

We can. We just have to use a first round pick either this year or next year.

  On 29/07/2019 at 21:22, dazzledavey36 said:

I didn't Think we could trade this year's first round draft pick??

Ps @Patches O’houlihan go to bed mate! ?

Hahah sorry Dazzle, worked very late last night haha. we can only trade it if we get a different one to use, though i think we can apply to the AFL for clearance to trade it.

Anderson will add to our forward mix next year

Outside mids and forwards have to be a priority. I like Langdon. If we could secure him and Hill, along with 1 or 2 small forwards like Butler, Elliott, McDonald-Tippingwuti or Papley, that'd be ideal 

 

  On 29/07/2019 at 16:46, MurDoc516 said:

Judd also said he thinks Melbourne will make a play for Brad Hill.

I read it that he thinks MFC should make a play for Hill. His opinion, rather than that we will

What about:

OUT: MFC 2019 R1 and R2 picks (3+23, assuming GCS get 1+2PP)

IN: B Hill + Langdon+ Freo 2019 R1 (about 9)

No doubt Freo would think that unders and try and work Gus into the equation 

  On 30/07/2019 at 02:00, Moonshadow said:

What about:

OUT: MFC 2019 R1 and R2 picks (3+23, assuming GCS get 1+2PP)

IN: B Hill + Langdon+ Freo 2019 R1 (about 9)

No doubt Freo would think that unders and try and work Gus into the equation 

I think everyone’s too quick to start discarding Gus as part of trades. Has had a bad year no doubt, but been played out of position all year long and in a system that just doesnt work.

  On 30/07/2019 at 02:00, Moonshadow said:

What about:

OUT: MFC 2019 R1 and R2 picks (3+23, assuming GCS get 1+2PP)

IN: B Hill + Langdon+ Freo 2019 R1 (about 9)

No doubt Freo would think that unders and try and work Gus into the equation 

That's the deal I'd go for.  Hopefully a couple more losses for Freo make that deal better for us. Unless Gus tells us he wants to leave then he is off limits.

Should we be looking at someone like Jeremy Finnlayson from GWS? Would provide decent support for Tmac and has proved an accurate kick for goal. Was nearly traded last year and am sure the Giants would want to keep him after this year’s form, but surely we’re in a position to offer more than they can afford?

  On 30/07/2019 at 02:00, Moonshadow said:

What about:

OUT: MFC 2019 R1 and R2 picks (3+23, assuming GCS get 1+2PP)

IN: B Hill + Langdon+ Freo 2019 R1 (about 9)

No doubt Freo would think that unders and try and work Gus into the equation 

Think this is about right, especially if they give GC a top end priority. I'd say we might even try and turn that second round pick into our 2020 2nd pick instead. I think that Hill could end up at Geelong as part of the Kelly trade though.

 

  On 30/07/2019 at 00:44, Moonshadow said:

I would think Brayshaw for Langdon would be a fairer trade to an objective observer. Both about high 2nd rounder in value at the moment

No they wouldn't, Gus finished 3rd in the Brownlow last year and has proven class, just because he's had a down year doesn't mean he's value has dropped that much. He'd still warrant a first rounder on it's own, pick 10-15 or so. Hypothetically if he did want to go west with his brothers then I'd be asking for Cerra and Langdon with no picks exchanged, unless we were going for Hill as well. 

  On 23/07/2019 at 12:21, Redleg said:

I would have a look at Darcy Fogarty from Crows.

Yep, me too.

To me it honestly looks like Gus is a player who has lots on his mind, almost like a player who knows there might be some chance he is not at the club next year. There seems to be very little care or responsibility in his game, constant kicking without looking, lack luster tackle pressure, poor decision making, sluggish, handballs over his head.

I think he is a player who would have huge currency, and even through all that im not sure i would want him not playing for us. 

 

  On 30/07/2019 at 04:15, Demon3 said:

To me it honestly looks like Gus is a player who has lots on his mind, almost like a player who knows there might be some chance he is not at the club next year. There seems to be very little care or responsibility in his game, constant kicking without looking, lack luster tackle pressure, poor decision making, sluggish, handballs over his head.

I think he is a player who would have huge currency, and even through all that im not sure i would want him not playing for us. 

 

everything you said in the opening para has been true of him his entire career

he started off his 2018 year in the magoos as a result of his lax two-way running

he might end off 2019 back there

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  On 30/07/2019 at 05:06, whatwhatsaywhat said:

everything you said in the opening para has been true of him his entire career

he started off his 2018 year in the magoos as a result of his lax two-way running

he might end off 2019 back there

Fair comments, and yep, it might be the full stop too 2 very different seasons! Has been really disappointing though, and i acknowledge he has been played out of position but still a shame after a such breakout season in 2018.

  On 30/07/2019 at 05:15, Demon3 said:

Fair comments, and yep, it might be the full stop too 2 very different seasons! Has been really disappointing though, and i acknowledge he has been played out of position but still a shame after a such breakout season in 2018.

i actually think this is a misnomer

he's not being played out of position; it's been discovered that he can ONLY one ONE position - inside mid

it limits him enormously compared to say, the likes of jones or harmes who can play effective roles outside the centre square set-up but are - arguably - better inside mids than brayshaw as their workrate and disposal is superior

  On 30/07/2019 at 06:16, whatwhatsaywhat said:

i actually think this is a misnomer

he's not being played out of position; it's been discovered that he can ONLY one ONE position - inside mid

it limits him enormously compared to say, the likes of jones or harmes who can play effective roles outside the centre square set-up but are - arguably - better inside mids than brayshaw as their workrate and disposal is superior

Which probably indicates he is being played out of position yeah? he is a specialist inside mid, yet has played outside on wing and HB for a lot of the year.