10 minutes ago, david_neitz_is_my_dad said:

Spargo did nothing wrong

Also did very little right.

He's too small to play AFL, there have been others/are others at a similar height but they can stick tackles. He gets run over way too easily. Clever player but at VFL level for now.

9 minutes ago, kallangurdemon said:

if KK does well tomorrow he can go straight in.

Going by how Viney ran out the game, they might give him a few more weeks at Casey to build his fitness base before we rush him back in.  But I'm looking forward to having him in the side.

Obviously May comes in for either Frost or Oscar.  Take your pick of them really.  Do we have anyone else to come in?  Do we go with Preuss at GMHBA when we know Gawn only has Stanley to contend with?  Does someone like Stretch potentially get a gig?  Who knows.

FB: Jetta  May  Hibberd
HB: Hunt  Petty  Salem
C;  Jones  Oliver  Fritsch
HF: Spargo  T Mc  Petracca
FF: Melksham  Weid  Lockhart
Foll: Gawn Oliver  Harmes
Int:  J. Wagner,  C. Wagner,  Viney, Sparrow

Out: Oscar, Frost, Hore, ANB
In: May, Petty, J Wagner, Lockhart

The 3 taller defenders were all absolute witches hats. Get rid of them. Hopeless. I don't want to bring in J Wagner but he has to be better than Hore and I don't think KK is ready.

Not too much to be done with the midfield except hope they improve. Viney should find match fitness. Jones was actually playing ok until his awful last quarter. Maybe KK comes in here or maybe Oskar Baker but for now leave as is.

Forward line: tempted to overhaul with Keilty or Preuss for Weid as well as making multiple changes to the smalls. But I'd back Weid in rather than go with an underdone Preuss. ANB has to go though, complete liability who doesn't want to win the ball. C. Wagner and Sparrow both looked equally effective (or ineffective) as pressure forwards, keep them in and try either Lockhart or Chandler. Someone with some skill and craft.

 

Hard to know on Viney. Next game he could tear it apart. It may just to dust off the cobwebs. But I’m torn on him for next week. I actually thought he was on a treadmill in the third quarter. His legs seemed to moving but the body wasn’t.

I think Preuss stays out. The cats looked pretty quick last night. 

Frost has to come out for May. Frost is a headless chook. 

KK for maybe Hore. Although I thought Hore settled more in the second half. 

I don’t think you can make too many changes after one game, but May is definitely one for Frost. 

our 3 worst today were:

1. Jones: like seriously what the hell. I'm a jones fan but he was making mistakes your avg suburban player wouldn't make.

2. Gawn: smashed in the ruck. terrible around the ground. couldn't even run without hyper extending his knee. b

3. frost: got pumped by westhoff. 

1 hour ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Get rid of Oscar and Frost. They were both diabolical! May and Petty/Keilty comes in. Both of them are just plain shithouse and add nothing to side.

Hore is meh.

Is Smith likely to be Fit?? Shizzen player management in a meaningless JLT game to keep him on 

DOH!

B: JETTA, MAY,  KOLODJASHNIJ

HB: HIBBERD, PETTY, SALEM

C : HARMES, OLIVER, FRITSCH

HF: C.WAGNER, J.SMITH, SPARROW

F: MELKSHAM, T.MCDONALD, HUNT

FOLL: GAWN, VINEY, BRAYSHAW

IC: PREUSS, JONES, NEAL-BULLEN, PETRACCA

OUT: WEIDEMAN, FROST, HORE, O.MCDONALD, SPARGO

On a miserly 5 changes not going overboard after a loss.

Edited March 23, 20196 yr by WERRIDEE

1 hour ago, Megatron said:

Hard to know on Viney. Next game he could tear it apart. It may just to dust off the cobwebs. But I’m torn on him for next week. I actually thought he was on a treadmill in the third quarter. His legs seemed to moving but the body wasn’t.

I think Preuss stays out. The cats looked pretty quick last night. 

Frost has to come out for May. Frost is a headless chook. 

KK for maybe Hore. Although I thought Hore settled more in the second half. 

I don’t think you can make too many changes after one game, but May is definitely one for Frost. 

I know Frost was crap but if Oscar gets another game I'll vomit

Just now, WERRIDEE said:

I know Frost was crap but if Oscar gets another game I'll vomit

Start Chuckin 

And I prefer Linda Blair style Exorcist style!!

1 hour ago, whatwhatsaywhat said:

May, Preuss for Frost, Wagner

Lewis will be standard 21 Day hamstring recovery 

Lewis would have been yet another witches hat. 

May for Frost.

Preuss maybe but for whom?

Some are canning Weed but no worse than many others and is the future.  

Jones and a Viney yet again brought back underprepared but that is now past history and should get another game. 

In: May, Lewis (if fit)

Out: Frost, Hore 

Dear god I cannot with Frost. He is legit the dumbest footballer I have ever seen. Must go. 

Did I hear correctly that KK is playing VFL this weekend? If so, I’d love to see him in the side. 

9 minutes ago, picket fence said:

Start Chuckin 

And I prefer Linda Blair style Exorcist style!!

Time for Petty

2 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Get rid of Oscar and Frost. They were both diabolical! May and Petty/Keilty comes in. Both of them are just plain shithouse and add nothing to side.

Hore is meh.

Worst KPDenders in the comp bar none! 

VFL standard. 

If Viney is not right we can’t afford to carry him again 

Out: Frost, Hore

In: May, Stretch

3 minutes ago, DeeZee said:

If Viney is not right we can’t afford to carry him again 

He's allowed a crap game. I'm sure we will see a different Viney next week.

Frost out for May. 

Re comments to drop all three of Oscar, Frost and Hoare, our defensive running in the midfield was poor (same as JLT) and they smashed us in inside 50's. I thought Hoare was decent and deserves a few games to settle to hopefully fill the Lever sweeper role for the first half of the season. 

Tough game v Geelong on Saturday night but im backing us to have a real dip. 

One of OMac and Frost goes for May. I vote Frost, but I don't care too much because they're both awful.

If Lewis is fit he comes back in for Hore, but I don't know if Lewis will be fit. I'd probably drop Hore anyway. Would love KK to be fit.

If Viney's genuinely not fit then he should stand up as a captain and declare it, and make way for someone else. Who? I'm not sure. There's not a lot to get excited about at Casey tbh.

Spargo deseves to be dropped but who replaces him?

We need to try out Preuss. Stanley beat Gawn once last year and did well against Grundy last night. I'm worried he and Ratugolea will get physical with Gawn again and he'll struggle.

Just now, chookrat said:

Frost out for May. 

Re comments to drop all three of Oscar, Frost and Hoare, our defensive running in the midfield was poor (same as JLT) and they smashed us in inside 50's. I thought Hoare was decent and deserves a few games to settle to hopefully fill the Lever sweeper role for the first half of the season. 

Tough game v Geelong on Saturday night but im backing us to have a real dip. 

Hore is woeful and if we continue to play him we will lose.

27 minutes ago, Vineytime said:

Worst KPDenders in the comp bar none! 

VFL standard. 

A little bit over the top.  They had a bit of a stinker, but they certainly didn't look VFL standard in our elimination and semi finals.

Granted, I'd much rather May and Lever in there, but those two weren't helped by the lack of run and effort from our midfield today either.

I'm not expecting whole sale changes.

Out: Frost & Spargo

In: May & KK (assuming he gets through ok)

We brought KK in for his run and carry and we are crying out for that!

On the Melbourne website Goodwin indicated that Preuss will play after Gawn's shocker.

2 hours ago, Wiseblood said:

Going by how Viney ran out the game, they might give him a few more weeks at Casey to build his fitness base before we rush him back in.  But I'm looking forward to having him in the side.

Obviously May comes in for either Frost or Oscar.  Take your pick of them really.  Do we have anyone else to come in?  Do we go with Preuss at GMHBA when we know Gawn only has Stanley to contend with?  Does someone like Stretch potentially get a gig?  Who knows.

Out:

Frost, Wagner, Spargo.

Wagner is VFL level. So is Frost.

In:

May.

Lewis, Preuss if not still carrying injury.

PLEASE not Stretch. A genuine VFL player. Not up to AFL standard.

Edited March 23, 20196 yr by My name is legion

1 hour ago, WERRIDEE said:

B: JETTA, MAY,  KOLODJASHNIJ

HB: HIBBERD, PETTY, SALEM

C : HARMES, OLIVER, FRITSCH

HF: C.WAGNER, J.SMITH, SPARROW

F: MELKSHAM, T.MCDONALD, HUNT

FOLL: GAWN, VINEY, BRAYSHAW

IC: PREUSS, JONES, NEAL-BULLEN, PETRACCA

OUT: WEIDEMAN, FROST, HORE, O.MCDONALD, SPARGO

On a miserly 5 changes not going overboard after a loss.

Isnt Joel Smith injured?

Adjust your medication now !

 

Edited March 23, 20196 yr by Wadda We Sing

16 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

A little bit over the top.  They had a bit of a stinker, but they certainly didn't look VFL standard in our elimination and semi finals.

Granted, I'd much rather May and Lever in there, but those two weren't helped by the lack of run and effort from our midfield today either.

Oscar had 1 intercept possession today. You could literally stand still at CHB and at least manage 3. Plus he wasn't running freely by the end of the game. Whatever was wrong with his hip that needed surgery I'm not convinced it's suddenly right. He played on Schoenmakers and Jack Henry in the finals last year and as soon as he took on a half decent opponent he was crap. I'm struggling to remember a tall defender who has no strength, no speed and no ability to take a mark. Nor does he counter attack and run the ball out. 

Frost did a good job on Hawkins in the elimination final but he was awful today. The thing about Frost is he just has no football intelligence at all. None.Plus a poor tank. As the season goes on and he builds his match fitness and gets in the rhythm of playing games he can be more useful but every time the season starts again he's all at sea. 

These guys are both dreadful and we worry about which is worse instead of moving them both on and bringing in someone with upside.