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On 3/7/2019 at 11:43 AM, Mazer Rackham said:

the downside of the NRL night grand final.

Kids can't go as it finishes so late (and it's a "school night" in NSW).

Isn’t it played on the Sunday of the October long weekend?

 

My ear which has been to the ground is hearing Gil and the boys have decided on a Twilight Grand Final. #ETthenewsbreaker. 

 
On 3/6/2019 at 12:38 PM, Macca said:

TV footy needs neutral supporters by the way ... without neutral support,  it won't rate

...and that's the problem.

When there is a vested interest in giving teams like Carlton undeserved Friday night fixtures then rusted on AFL supporters like myself who love watching a good game turn off in droves.

The AFL have treated their TV viewing supporters with contempt and have been paid back in kind.

They need to understand that it's the neutrals that make up the big numbers on prime slots.

Very lazy thinking and a little bit of funny biz (Who did the former Chairman play for? let me think a minute) at head office...

2 hours ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

My ear which has been to the ground is hearing Gil and the boys have decided on a Twilight Grand Final. #ETthenewsbreaker. 

One thing you can be guaranteed of 'Ethan'...the fans won't be listened too.

I think you have the scoop again mate...the only source I go to for my news.


12 minutes ago, rjay said:

...and that's the problem.

When there is a vested interest in giving teams like Carlton undeserved Friday night fixtures then rusted on AFL supporters like myself who love watching a good game turn off in droves.

The AFL have treated their TV viewing supporters with contempt and have been paid back in kind.

They need to understand that it's the neutrals that make up the big numbers on prime slots.

Very lazy thinking and a little bit of funny biz (Who did the former Chairman play for? let me think a minute) at head office...

For those who want to see attractive open football without too much congestion,  the Carlton argument is not really a factor.  Many watch footy just because it is footy.  They don't care about the aesthetics and probably never have.  Crowds & memberships aren't a problem but the sport needs to be watched by neutrals through the broadcast platforms.

It's my belief that footy isn't losing any of it's core supporters or the rusted on types ... they are losing those who could 'take it or leave it' or those who just prefer to want to watch their own team play. 

We don't talk enough about the great neutral games anymore rjay and that stopped a few years ago ... most of the chatter is about the officiating,  fantasy sports,  tribalism,  gambling and other factors.  Monday mornings for me used to be filled with conversations about how great the weekend's games were. 

For a minority (maybe 15% - 20%) the game has to be spectacular to watch and for potential new viewers,  the same.  Footy now has a lot of competition for TV viewers and I'd prefer it if the sport was bullet-proof. 

There was a good reason that the then VFL built an over-sized ground out at Waverley.  Over time,  the ground became a perfect sized ground for 36 players.  Back then,  the VFL showed great vision.  The Diamond/Square were great innovations as well (Waverley & the Diamond/Square happened at around about the same time)

Now,  there are just too many players on the ground and the grounds have effectively become even smaller with the professionalism of the sport.

15 or 16 a side with the rotations capped to 15 - 20 per team is my solution.  Not a new opinion either.  I watched our game on Saturday at Casey and the first thing that jumped out at me was that the ground is just way too small for 36 players.

 

Of course as the game grows in Asia as evidenced by the ever increasing attendance at the Port Dumpling match and the potential TV audience of 3 billion it is only fair to those legion of fans watching our game in Delhi and Shanghai that we move the GF to a more appropriate viewing time for their time zones.

As audiences increase in Africa we may consider a 10pm start in order to maximise world viewing audiences.

One has to remember that it is our obligation to take this game to the world!!

 
55 minutes ago, Mazer Rackham said:

An even higher authority has spoken.

No night footy after labor wins the next election according to our depudy dawg

Channel 7 will be furious.?

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/mar/10/forget-night-footy-michael-mccormack-warns-against-labors-renewables-target


It's obvious from here in the cheap seats that Gil the Dill and Tricky Dicky favour a more "commercial" time.

It's also obvious they both need to leave the game alone.... actually they can both ...  off !!

56 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

It's obvious from here in the cheap seats that Gil the Dill and Tricky Dicky favour a more "commercial" time.

It's also obvious they both need to leave the game alone.... actually they can both ...  off !!

Link between GF twilight:night and their own remuneration and bonuses?  One thing is for sure, the AFL is not prepared to take a stand against the broadcasters. Both men are softening us up for the cave-in. 

I love this comment from the interview...

""We will welcome any initiatives from the AFL that allow more people to be at a game but really it is the AFL's call."

Yeah coz starting it later means we can squeeze 150k into the MCG. FFS dont these clowns actually think things through before they say [censored] ? At least be honest and say, " We want a twilight or night Grand final because of the increased Advertising Revenue"

No wonder trust in the media is at an all-time low.

 

The price paid for the Broadcast Rights was way to high. So i am not suprised Channel 7 wants to maximize it’s revenue intake

it all comes back to AFL Greed and their disgusting bloated salaries they pay themselves

Can't wait for a night Grand final, it is inevitable and I for one welcome our new night time slot overlords


29 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

The price paid for the Broadcast Rights was way to high. So i am not suprised Channel 7 wants to maximize it’s revenue intake

it all comes back to AFL Greed and their disgusting bloated salaries they pay themselves

the elephant in the broadcast rights is Foxtel. As I understand it they fund over 50% of the bid for what is perhaps 30% of the product.

The anti siphoning rules protect only the GF and we have seen with cricket how those rules can be manipulated.

One can just see the strategists at Foxtel gaming all the scenarios for the 2022 bid. Kayo ans streaming will be all important.

Could we have Optus and the like ambush marketing by taking the Friday night game.

The television scene will definitely change

14 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

the elephant in the broadcast rights is Foxtel. As I understand it they fund over 50% of the bid for what is perhaps 30% of the product.

The anti siphoning rules protect only the GF and we have seen with cricket how those rules can be manipulated.

One can just see the strategists at Foxtel gaming all the scenarios for the 2022 bid. Kayo ans streaming will be all important.

Could we have Optus and the like ambush marketing by taking the Friday night game.

The television scene will definitely change

I can't remember where I heard or read this but it definitely stuck in my mind. Hutchy's Croc Media are going to make a bid for the next deal, and then on sell bits and pieces and they will offer their own version of "kayo"

 

I can certainly see it happening, and they will have to sell off bits and pieces to the highest bidder to pay for it

5 minutes ago, Josh said:

I can't remember where I heard or read this but it definitely stuck in my mind. Hutchy's Croc Media are going to make a bid for the next deal, and then on sell bits and pieces and they will offer their own version of "kayo"

 

I can certainly see it happening, and they will have to sell off bits and pieces to the highest bidder to pay for it

that's the nightmare scenario for footy fans where not only is the bulk of football behind pay walls ... it's behind different pay walls requiring multiple subscriptions.

Have a look at soccer where in Australia Foxtel have the EPL games but Optus have the Champions League. A terrible result for fans.

1 hour ago, hemingway said:

Link between GF twilight:night and their own remuneration and bonuses?  One thing is for sure, the AFL is not prepared to take a stand against the broadcasters. Both men are softening us up for the cave-in. 

Yep...they won't be hard done by...the $$$ will help soothe their conscience I'm sure 

1 hour ago, beelzebub said:

Yep...they won't be hard done by...the $$$ will help soothe their conscience I'm sure 

G’day mate. Missing your robust comments. 


 

What I'd really like to know was what McLaughlin recommended to the Commission. Did he recommend twilight? Or did he recommend the status quo? Might tell us a lot about his grip on power if it was the former and he got rolled.

On 3/11/2019 at 1:39 PM, ding said:

I love this comment from the interview...

""We will welcome any initiatives from the AFL that allow more people to be at a game but really it is the AFL's call."

Yeah coz starting it later means we can squeeze 150k into the MCG. FFS dont these clowns actually think things through before they say [censored] ? At least be honest and say, " We want a twilight or night Grand final because of the increased Advertising Revenue"

No wonder trust in the media is at an all-time low.

 

Oh dear, I have been quoting George Orwell a few times lately, and I'm sorry, but I have to do so again. Comments coming from people in the television media and the AFL are scarily sounding like "newspeak". Welcome to Big Brother. He knows what is good for you, because you are too stupid to understand yourself what you want. Stop voting for a day Grand Final, a night Grand Final is best for you. "You are a slow learner, Winston."


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