Bailey Smith

[spirit of norm smith 16,583]

Whilst others like Lukosius Rankine King twins and Walsh, my best prospect is Bailey Smith. 

Vic metro MVP in 2018 

captain Xavier College 1st XVIII

captain Sandringham under 18s TAC

Pace. Skilled. Tackles. Runs. Disposal efficiency 75%. 

Weakness is that he is more outside than inside. But he can win the footy. Reminds of a Trent Cotchin type. He can hit targets 

If MFC gets a top pick around 4 or 5, I hope we grab Bailey Smith

[Engorged Onion 10,223]

5 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Whilst others like Lukosius Rankine King twins and Walsh, my best prospect is Bailey Smith. 

Vic metro MVP in 2018 

captain Xavier College 1st XVIII

captain Sandringham under 18s TAC

Pace. Skilled. Tackles. Runs. Disposal efficiency 75%. 

Weakness is that he is more outside than inside. But he can win the footy. Reminds of a Trent Cotchin type. He can hit targets 

If MFC gets a top pick around 4 or 5, I hope we grab Bailey Smith

mmmm so do I....

perfectionistic, ruthless...class act.

[rjay 25,072]

15 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Weakness is that he is more outside than inside.

Haven't seen him play a minute but if he is more outside in junior footy then I wouldn't touch him.

The draft is littered with great junior outside mids who don't make it in the big time.

We know better that most...Morton, Toumpas to name a couple that come to mind.

[MadAsHell 4,215]

Have it on good authority that the Saints are all over him.

Wont be coming to MFC.

[spirit of norm smith 16,583]

Saints want Max King. 200cm forward and ruck. 

[chook fowler 19,528]

Ye Gods, another Smith.

[MadAsHell 4,215]

38 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Saints want Max King. 200cm forward and ruck. 

My sources say otherwise. Plus when you consider the fact they have Marshall, Battle, McCartin all young key forwards  (two of whom have shown an ability to ruck) I'd find it hard to believe they're into Max King. His brother would be more likely I would think.

[spirit of norm smith 16,583]

McCartin is expendable. 

Battle is 192cms and not a ruck fwd option. 

Marshall is still a question matk

 wait and see the Saints option

they got McCartin wrong so it’s a lottery

[chook fowler 19,528]

Given the probable loss of Vanders and Kent and Garlett is AWOL we need a quality small forward.

[Mt. Dee-Maaan 608]

1 hour ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Saints want Max King. 200cm forward and ruck. 

surely they wouldnt waste a top pick with a tall again?..

 

[deebug 1,754]

Do we have to use a pick on Toby? What pick would it be?

[MadAsHell 4,215]

21 minutes ago, deebug said:

Do we have to use a pick on Toby? What pick would it be?

Yes. Works like Father/Son bidding.

[Whispering_Jack 30,631]

Some good judges have Smith as a top 5 pick.

[Adam The God 30,404]

On 9/29/2018 at 7:08 PM, rjay said:

Haven't seen him play a minute but if he is more outside in junior footy then I wouldn't touch him.

The draft is littered with great junior outside mids who don't make it in the big time.

We know better that most...Morton, Toumpas to name a couple that come to mind.

Sounds like (yes, on the surface) Strauss...

Edited October 5, 2018 by A F

[old55 23,687]

Sounds dedicated.  I'm not sure I'd draft him, it would be hard to accommodate him culturally.

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/miles-ahead-smith-s-discipline-sets-him-apart-20181107-p50elp.html

[TeamPlayedFine39 8,510]

19 minutes ago, Fifty-5 said:

Sounds dedicated.  I'm not sure I'd draft him, it would be hard to accommodate him culturally.

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/miles-ahead-smith-s-discipline-sets-him-apart-20181107-p50elp.html

Some of that is a bit over the top... hopefully there’s more to his life than footy.

 

 

[Adam The God 30,404]

1 hour ago, Fifty-5 said:

Sounds dedicated.  I'm not sure I'd draft him, it would be hard to accommodate him culturally.

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/miles-ahead-smith-s-discipline-sets-him-apart-20181107-p50elp.html

Actually sounds super immature. Professionalism is great, but once he's inside a professional football club, he'll need a proper eating programme and the players around him will remind him it's fine to be dedicated, but you also have to live a little.

[rjay 25,072]

Confucius says, “the green reed which bends in the wind is stronger than the mighty oak which breaks in a storm.”

At this rate he's heading for a fall...

[DeeSpencer 26,077]

I get the no alcohol thing, that's fine. Good for him. I know most kids have had plenty of drinks by 15 yet alone 18 but some haven't and if he's that committed to his footy then I kind of get that you'd go why even have a first drink? Can't miss what you've never had. There's plenty of other ways to unwind.

The obsessive training concerns me. Especially the obsessive training with the dad, he might not be actively pushing him but he's condoning it. Surely there's a point of diminishing returns where you're just running up miles on a young body? Maybe he's the next Brent Harvey and can go for ages but what if he's the next Chris Judd who's body wasn't the same after about 25 and was pretty much done after 30? 

The obsessive diet concerns me even more and makes me worry he's not far from an eating disorder. He wouldn't be the first footballer. Weighing food and planning a diet is fine, but where's the harm in other people cooking for you or eating out at restaurants you trust? Combine that with the intermittent fasting and it's worrying behaviour. He's already drinking coffee every day - despite not liking it - to stay focused in school because his brain is crying out for some food! 

 

[djr 1,597]

Just as important, what's he like as a footballer?

[Undeeterred 3,124]

Sounds like a deadset peanut. No thanks.

[Cards13 9,117]

Amazing, we have bemoaned the lack of professionalism and dedication of our players for the last 10+ years. There is a Tracc thread which leans this way at the moment.

The dedication sounds amazing BUT you hope he can balance his own expectations and life to make sure he doesn't burn himself out.

[Lord Travis 10,763]

Haven’t read the article yet, but this kid will go top 5-10 and is the most rounded midfielder in this draft. He’ll be a gun midfielder in time. He’s got amazing balance, recovery, clean hands and turn of pace. I’d kill to have him in red and blue but he’s well out of our reach. Alas, maybe we can lure him in a few years time!

[Elwood 3184 1,338]

Sounds very Tom Scullylike so my hope is that GWS Giants draft him and they pick Shane Mumford as his mentor.

[hemingway 7,631]

He may be a little over the top but I like his level of dedication and commitment.

As a coach, I would like it even more.

Much easier to manage than someone without that commitment and ambition. 

At the end of the day the successful players all have a single minded commitment to get the most out of themselves, and training harder than others and looking after yourself off field are key drivers.