On 03/11/2018 at 23:42, TheoX said:

I remember there was an article about Collingwood looking into getting GC to terminate May's contract so they could pick him up as a free agent and GC would get a top5 pick FA compo. Hope we looked at that too, he's at an age where he should've come as a FA for us instead of costing us the best young KPF in the league.

If hogan didn’t get traded this year he would have went home the following year. What you said is a [censored] statement. 

I still think we will grab a delisted free agent. Though no news of who is likely.  

  On 03/11/2018 at 23:21, spirit of norm smith said:

Afl.com.au has our needs matched to Jake Neade for more forward pressure.  

In some ways I'm surprised we haven't been linked to him (via apparent club sources), but then in another way I'm not surprised, given our lack of internal leaks.

He has to be on our radar.

Edited November 4, 20186 yr by A F

  On 04/11/2018 at 08:47, A F said:

In some ways I'm surprised we haven't been linked to him (via apparent club sources), but then in another way I'm not surprised, given our lack of internal leaks.

He has to be on our radar.

AF have you heard of anyone that we might be interested in? Just in regards to delisted players?

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-11-04/worth-a-look-15-tempting-delisted-free-agents

Partington has my interest can get the ball and his kicking can be worked on.

  On 03/11/2018 at 23:21, spirit of norm smith said:

Afl.com.au has our needs matched to Jake Neade for more forward pressure.  

Neat finisher with a bit of flair. Noted for forward pressure. Leg speed/evasive skills. Can win contested ball. Fills a Neade (sorry).

What's the knock? Goes missing? 

  On 04/11/2018 at 16:12, Skuit said:

Neat finisher with a bit of flair. Noted for forward pressure. Leg speed/evasive skills. Can win contested ball. Fills a Neade (sorry).

What's the knock? Goes missing? 

From Big Footy...

"He has zero forward craft. Doesn’t know how to crumb packs to save his life. But man can he tackle. 

When he’s playing well he can kick 2-3 goals, apply a shitload of pressure in the forward line, provide some nice link up play down the field and his delivery by foot is excellent. The problem is he’s very prone to having 4 disposal games where you completely forget he’s playing. He’s decent depth and would come very cheap. Who knows, a functioning forward line might bring the best out of him"

 

https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/jake-neade-delisted.1206529/

Edited November 4, 20186 yr by JTR
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As every day goes by it looks increasingly unlikely we'll take anyone.  Why wait, someone else may get your target?

  On 04/11/2018 at 09:58, dazzledavey36 said:

AF have you heard of anyone that we might be interested in? Just in regards to delisted players?

Nope. But that doesn't mean anything.

  On 03/11/2018 at 04:42, Rodney (Balls) Grinter said:

That was more or less my thinking.  I feel that loosing Vince, Pedo, Bugg, Kent and with the prospect of Lewis slowing and potentially getting injured in his sunset years does leave us a little exposed for mature, experienced players.

From what I've observed, Cheny probably isn't a superstar, but is a pretty solid, reliable type and has only just turned 29.  Whilst he was probably never quite in their best 22, Cheny obviously knew what was required and executed well when called up as a backup player for several top teams in Hawthorn  (during their prime) and Adelaide.  I paid a bit of attention to him when I re-watched our 2018 away game Vs Adelaide the other night and he had pretty tidy foot skills, made good decisions with the ball and has always been a pretty tough, hard and tenacious defender like Nev.

Assuming we could sign him on for a reasonable price, he could be both a good insurance policy and also a mentor down at Casey.  I guess Wagner, JKH and Keilty and Petty would be the other depth backline players we have, but none of them would have the same experience as Cheny and all could probably benifit from playing beside him at Casey.  Don't know if he is future coaching material or not.

Part of me also likes the sentiment of him ending up back in Red and Blue, since I always thought when we moved him on, that he was a goer, which I think has been somewhat proved since.

It's so long ago, I've forgotten how it played out, but did we "move him on" or did he choose to leave? Choosing to leave during our basket-case years would hardly be a surprise.

  On 05/11/2018 at 00:13, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

It's so long ago, I've forgotten how it played out, but did we "move him on" or did he choose to leave? Choosing to leave during our basket-case years would hardly be a surprise.

Pretty sure we moved him on?

  On 04/11/2018 at 13:03, WERRIDEE said:

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-11-04/worth-a-look-15-tempting-delisted-free-agents

Partington has my interest can get the ball and his kicking can be worked on.

He's to slow upstairs in terms of decision making and IMO just not cut for AFL. Good solid WAFL/VFL/SANFL footballer 

  On 05/11/2018 at 00:13, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

It's so long ago, I've forgotten how it played out, but did we "move him on" or did he choose to leave? Choosing to leave during our basket-case years would hardly be a surprise.

Wikipedia lists it as "played 12 matches for Melbourne in 2009 but only two in 2010, playing the rest of the season with the Casey Scorpions and winning their player of the year award that year.  At the end of the 2010 season, Cheney was traded to Hawthornalong with pick 66 for pick 52."

Perhaps not quite moved on, but more a case of accomodating his desire for more opportunities elsewhere.  Pretty much fits with my recollection that we probably assessed him and wrote him off as being a bit of a nearly, but not quite good enough.   His track record since has somewhat demonstrated this to be the right assessment and I guess he could be categorized as the classic frindge player.  

My take would be that good teams can probably afford to carry a few fringe players for depth if they come at the right price and character propersition.  We probably already have a few in this boat, with Stretch, JKH, Wagner and perhaps some others, so I'm not really sure that we'd want to take on Cheny as well from that perspective.  Thinking about things further, I wounder if the mid season draft has put less of a premium on depth, which clubs will try to exploit to get more young developmental tallent on their lists 

Edited November 5, 20186 yr by Rodney (Balls) Grinter

  On 05/11/2018 at 03:53, Rodney (Balls) Grinter said:

Wikipedia lists it as "played 12 matches for Melbourne in 2009 but only two in 2010, playing the rest of the season with the Casey Scorpions and winning their player of the year award that year.  At the end of the 2010 season, Cheney was traded to Hawthornalong with pick 66 for pick 52."

Perhaps not quite moved on, but more a case of accomodating his desire for more opportunities elsewhere.  Pretty much fits with my recollection that we probably assessed him and wrote him off as being a bit of a nearly, but not quite good enough.   His track record since has somewhat demonstrated this to be the right assessment and I guess he could be categorized as the classic frindge player.  

My take would be that good teams can probably afford to carry a few fringe players for depth if they come at the right price and character propersition.  We probably already have a few in this boat, with Stretch, JKH, Wagner and perhaps some others, so I'm not really sure that we'd want to take on Cheny as well from that perspective.  Thinking about things further, I wounder if the mid season draft has put less of a premium on depth, which clubs will try to exploit to get more young developmental tallent on their lists 

I would take him in a heartbeat if we could get pick 66 into the deal as well.

  On 04/11/2018 at 22:15, Fifty-5 said:

As every day goes by it looks increasingly unlikely we'll take anyone.  Why wait, someone else may get your target?

It's looking that way.

Will be fascinating to see how this is going to pan out. We have a minimum of 4 places to fill on the main list to make it 38 and we only have 4 useful picks. If we do that we will have to rookie 4 players to go with the 2 we currently have to make the total minimum list of 44. They have to be drafted which means the last 2 will be very late in the rookie draft. No matter how good JT is that's going to be a major stretch. Which makes you wonder if they think those gambles would be better than 1 or 2 of the remaining DFA's. 

Maybe there's some pick trading planned perhaps with some of next year's picks to grab one or two more decent picks. Although that could have happened by now if it was the plan.  

I don't think it's mandatory to fill the rookie list to make it to 44. The new pre-season signing period and mid season draft require vacant rookie positions.

  On 05/11/2018 at 06:31, Fifty-5 said:

I don't think it's mandatory to fill the rookie list to make it to 44. The new pre-season signing period and mid season draft require vacant rookie positions.

Correct.

In Michael Gleeson’s Age article, The Age AFL to introduce mid-season rookie draft in 2019 he says that in addition to the new mid-season rookie draft the AFL is “also set to allow clubs to add a player to their rookie list during the pre-season if they have a spot available or if they lose a player to a long-term injury or retirement”.

This will apply to the period between December 1 and March 15 at which time clubs could place players “on one of three inactive lists: a long-term injury list, a season-ending list or a retired player list”.

So you can leave a spot vacant at the drafts to allow yourself  time to determine what player you want and you have a few months in which to do it.

I'd look at Cheney for coverage, but also as he has a connection with Lever. That would help if we were forced to pick him through an injury to Nev. He was also at Lever's wedding so knows the boys I'd say. With DJ now gone, who was looking to be the Nev backup, I think there's a slight need.

I think Neade could be useful also, he's what's missing from Jeffy. His forward pressure could be a big bonus, but needs to work on consistency.

I just saw Michael Apeness was delisted with a contract for next year and a promise of a rookie spot.

Does a delisting not void the contract from the players point of view? 

Constantly injured but I think he's talented. Can or should we steal him from Freo and have a talented 3rd string ruck/forward?

  On 06/11/2018 at 11:44, FireInTheBelly said:

With DJ now gone, who was looking to be the Nev backup ...

Would we rookie DJ?

  On 06/11/2018 at 14:13, DeeSpencer said:

I just saw Michael Apeness was delisted with a contract for next year and a promise of a rookie spot.

Does a delisting not void the contract from the players point of view? 

Constantly injured but I think he's talented. Can or should we steal him from Freo and have a talented 3rd string ruck/forward?

There's another thread about the value of player contracts and whether players are no longer sticking to their side of the bargain. This is the other side of the same coin. Also, I can't understand how a player's contract today doesn't include an obligation for the club to keep the player on the primary list (except in exceptional circumstances, such as a player failing a drug test or requiring disciplinary sanction).

Looks like we are not taking any.

Drum roll:

“Thursday, 8 November: AFL delisted player free agency period (1) closes”

So at some time tomorrow, the AFL delisted player free agency period (1) will close.

 Is there any chance that there will be a frenetic period of last minute wheeling and dealing that lands a swag of DFAs at various clubs or is it all over, red rover for them?

It seems to me that this entire concept of DFAs is going the same way as the pre season draft and the dodo. Gawn.

  On 06/11/2018 at 20:12, The Third Eye said:

Would we rookie DJ?

Possibly. Has he shown enough though?

All quiet.  Media must be disappointed in the delisted free agent action so far.  Clubs seem to be banking on getting 5-6 picks in this super draft.