1 minute ago, Demons1858 said:

yet, we have been poor with recycler players or pro scouting i.e. balic, mckenna, bugg, ben kennedy, aiden riley, and many more from the neeld era which l won't go into

No. All of those players were flawed and our list was in a very different position. We are a destination club now and decent players see what we're cooking and want in.

2 minutes ago, A F said:

No. All of those players were flawed and our list was in a very different position. We are a destination club now and decent players see what we're cooking and want in.

kade is clearly flawed if he can't get a game at gc and they want to move him on

9 minutes ago, Demons1858 said:

yet, we have been poor with recycler players or pro scouting i.e. balic, mckenna, bugg, ben kennedy, aiden riley, and many more from the neeld era which l won't go into

A lot of those were cheap pick ups and more for depth purposes.

Just now, Is Dom Is Good said:

A lot of those were cheap pick ups and more for depth purposes.

agree but 1 or 2 should have showed something if we were getting it right. we aren't and in the circumstance we should just go to the draft going forward

Let the resident dopes on here think Kolodjashnij is just another average prospect.

The bloke will be one of the most talented on our list and if he's over his concussions will be a revelation.  .

He can play but he has been concussed a lot. He is probably a knock or two from giving it up. We aren't talking about a kid with the mindset of Angus Brayshaw, who wouldn't give it up even if he copped more knocks. Brayshaw is stubborn. Kolodjashnij is cut from a different cloth altogether. He is hesitant. I watch him. I watched him as a junior. He has great skills and elite movement, he is a very graceful mover. But, he is just a knock away from giving it up IMO. I'd be prepared to give up a 3rd round pick but nothing more.

He's worth 34, not including double/triple letter values, and the bonus for all the tiles. I really think anyone we recruit I can trust the FD to make sure the 'not soft' function is installed. Certainly of the Suns that have left they all seem to go ok. K.hunt, what a bone-headed move that was, 3 million for a party drug culture. Funnily enough I'm more worried about May working out than KK if we got both.   

On 9/27/2018 at 8:19 PM, chook fowler said:

No, can’t pronounce his name, like Grgic.

Col-jazz-nee 

59 minutes ago, ProDee said:

Let the resident dopes on here think Kolodjashnij is just another average prospect.

The bloke will be one of the most talented on our list and if he's over his concussions will be a revelation.  .

Who are the resident dopes? 

Worry about he concussions but the upside is huge. Would be happy to part with a 3rd rounder.

This kid is a potential A grader. I think a lot of posters are going to be eating humble pie when they realise just how good this kid is. He has as much talent as any of our young mids. 

7 hours ago, Wolfturdo said:

Who are the resident dopes? 

If you don't know who they are chances are ....

6 hours ago, Patches O’houlihan said:

This kid is a potential A grader. He has as much talent as any of our young mids. 

So, another Clarry or Angus to add to our list! Wow, bring it on!

Get the saints to talk with the suns to make sure they are happy with the saints pick for Kent because thats what they should be getting for KK . 

Otherwise no deal saints 

Kade is a beauty. The concussion issues were neck related and have been resolved. Not sure what Dew etc have against him.

3 hours ago, Clintosaurus said:

Kade is a beauty. The concussion issues were neck related and have been resolved. Not sure what Dew etc have against him.

Probably too skinny for Dews liking!

15 hours ago, A F said:

It's really not that difficult...

Collar Jazz Knee

Let all the dopes on here realise that KK is the best pick up ever, a star that will lead us to 5 premierships

Ask me who they are

KK is definitely an elite talent, I'm unsure why the Suns would give him up for nothing when they are clearly a basketcase. With Lewis near done, this guy will slot in nicely.

I think there are 3 kinds of trades for players:

1. Blockbusters with early picks and big salary involved: e.g. Lever, May
2. Role players for known quantities: e.g. Vince, Lewis, Hibberd, Melksham, Garlett, Tyson, Bugg, Preuss
3. Speculation for players that have unrealised potential: Frost, Balic, McKenna, Kennedy, KK 

In some ways #3 are most interesting

Edited October 3, 20186 yr by Fifty-5

3 minutes ago, Fifty-5 said:

I think there are 3 kinds of trades for players:

1. Blockbusters with early picks and big salary involved: e.g. Lever, May
2. Role players for known quantities: e.g. Lewis, Hibberd, Melksham, Garlett, Tyson, Bugg, Preuss
3. Speculation for players that have unrealised potential: Balic, KK 

In some ways #3 are most interesting

Ouch

5 minutes ago, jumbo returns said:

Ouch

it's the nature of the beast. I should add Ben Kennedy and Pat McKenna in there too

Edited October 3, 20186 yr by Fifty-5

I put KK in same category as Ports acquisition of Mr Watts last year... a bet against exposed form based on pedigree (draft pick, “talent”, etc)... and Jack was getting games in a middle of the road team, whereas Kk struggling in a cellar dweller...

Edited October 3, 20186 yr by PaulRB

If he can bring us the lucky 13th flag; i'm all for him putting the great red and blue jumper,?

KK will flourish in a professional football program with leaders to guide him. Perfect Lewis successor