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Farewell Jesse Hogan

Devil In Disguise
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7 minutes ago, SFebes said:

 

Freos stubborness could stuff everything up here if Crows get pick 5.

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    1 minute ago, SFebes said:

     

    This is what happens when negotiations drag on. Take what you can get before other deals get in the way Adelaide sends 8 and 16 to freo for Neale to bris and 5 to Adelaide... And maybe a shuffle of later picks

    That's a decent deal for all and makes May a whole lot harder of we only get 8 and 11 for Hogan. Suns will want more than 8

     

     

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    Just now, Mondê said:

    We don't exactly have a lot of currency this season...

    Then we wait until next year. In the meantime we lowball GC and see if they bite. If they don't then so be it.

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    8 minutes ago, SFebes said:

     

    wow if pick 5 isn't part of Hogan deal.

    It's time to walk away MFC.

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    Just now, SFebes said:

    Freos stubborness could stuff everything up here if Crows get pick 5.

    If it were me, I’d say I’d pick 5 is off the table I’d nearly walk away and make a statement to Jesse and the industry. 

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    9 hours ago, Patches O’houlihan said:

    I’ve heard from a source I trust very much that Fremantle have been an absolute nightmare for Brisbane to deal with in the lachie Neale trade. I can only imagine that’s been the same with the hogan situation. They’re asking massive overs from Brisbane and keep saying he’s contracted. I hope we do the same!

    Time to tell Freo to FO!

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    9 minutes ago, Johnny Karate said:

    Hogan for May + pick 11 is a good return. *Ducks*

     

    4 minutes ago, Tough Kent said:

    I think anyone with empathy for a different club would think this is a fair deal.

    I think it's very close to the right deal, but I would be pushing for GC to include KK and Pick 19 in that deal.  A shuffle of picks too.

    Something like;

    In; May, KK, Pick 24

    Out; Pick 5, Pick 34

    Means we are taking Pick 11 and 24 in to the draft, and when combined with May and KK, has cost us Hogan and Pick 34.

    I would rate Hogan = May & KK (in terms of value to our needs).  Shuffling Picks 5 & 34 (2420 points) for Pick 11 & 24 (2114).

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    Pick 5 & 11 is a steal for Hogan. He’s not that good. Would prefer 5 and their 2019 1st rounder though.

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    If we trade Hogan and baulk at May because “we’ll get him as a free agent next year” it would be unprofessional and stupid in my opinion. If you’ve got a player of calibre wanting to join your club you shouldn’t look a gift horse in the mouth and should negotiate in good faith. MFC has taken this pragmatic approach in the past and I don’t see why it would change. 

    Equally,  Freo would be stupid to not trade for Hogan because “he’ll be cheaper when he’s OOC”. 

    I don’t think these “play hardball” approaches would ingratiate clubs to players, managers or the industry at large. It’s not about ‘winning’ a trade it’s about being pragmatic and mature.

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    What if... Lachie Neale is now available? Brisbane are either bluffing, or they've given away on getting him because of Freo's stubborness. Is Lachie Neale and pick 11 out of the question? I do rate Neale. And if we managed to use 11 + player + picks to get Steven May, then we'd be laughing. Just a thought. A far fetched one at that.

    I do however think Brisbane are bluffing and using this to get Freo to do the pick 5 deal though.

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    54 minutes ago, ProDee said:

    Melbourne will trade pick 5 for May.

    I'm looking forward to the meltdowns.

    Me too. It’s gonna be Lever 2.0

    I wonder if we bundle KK in that pick 5 trade. Maybe 5 for May and KK? And some late pick swaps?

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    Just now, EnterTheDragon said:

    Pick 5 & 11 is a steal for Hogan. He’s not that good. 

    Yes, he is. Jesse is an unbelievable talent. He’s easily the most talented current demons player. 

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    3 minutes ago, Patches O’houlihan said:

    If it were me, I’d say I’d pick 5 is off the table I’d nearly walk away and make a statement to Jesse and the industry. 

    That's the issue, if Freo finish say 10th next year it's only pick 8-9 they'll have.

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    And this is why Freo is a joke of a club and have had no success ever. Get over yourselves and get moving or you’ll end up with nothing. 

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    Get tough - 5 and Brayshaw or p off

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    5 minutes ago, Patches O’houlihan said:

    If it were me, I’d say I’d pick 5 is off the table I’d nearly walk away and make a statement to Jesse and the industry. 

    Statement time, indeed. Whilst I would like May in the team, we really do not need him. We do need Preuss and KK. 

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    2 minutes ago, johndemonic said:

    What if... Lachie Neale is now available? Brisbane are either bluffing, or they've given away on getting him because of Freo's stubborness. Is Lachie Neale and pick 11 out of the question? I do rate Neale. And if we managed to use 11 + player + picks to get Steven May, then we'd be laughing. Just a thought. A far fetched out. 

    I do think Brisbane are bluffing and using this to get Freo to do the pick 5 deal though.

    pardon my ignorance... is he an outside or inside mid

    thanks

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    1 minute ago, monoccular said:

    Get tough - 5 and Brayshaw or p off

    What is the obsession with Brayshaw other than being related to Angus? We don't need more inside mids. We're past the stage of grabbing the 'best available' we have obvious strengths and obvious deficiencies and Brayshaw does nothing to fix our deficiencies.

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    Hey Jesse, Freo obviously don't value you. Otherwise they would make a fair offer for you. All the promises they have made over the years, and now they value at less than May (an unloved full back). Why would you ever want to go there. Lyon is not a popular coach. The club is in dissaray and they are the 3rd worst scoring side in the AFL. Perhaps it is time to commit to the highest scoring side in the AFL with a popular coach at a great club that finished top 4 without you. If you really want to go home, tell Freo to make a fair offer or you will never come to them.

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    Freo can’t trade next years first as they already traded there 2019 3rd.

    If this happens it will leave them with 8,11,16 and 24. 16 Will be for Lobb. 

    Doesnt leave them with enough for Hogan.

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    17 minutes ago, Patches O’houlihan said:

    Yes, he is. Jesse is an unbelievable talent. He’s easily the most talented current demons player. 

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    1 hour ago, johndemonic said:

    Keilty and Drunkn167 is overs :laugh:

     

    Damn straight.

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    10 minutes ago, monoccular said:

    Get tough - 5 and Brayshaw or p off

    They actually don’t have 5 yet, it’s difficult to trade it

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