1 minute ago, Deemania since 56 said:

HMR - agreed. A club develops from the top down. Remediation develops from the top down. Goodbye Goodwin and company, hello Roos!

Roos is gone and aint never coming back so forget that. Goodwin has some excellent traits and the players apparantly love him, but he's still learning. We see him now, perhpas for the first time in his career,  under real heat. Lets see how he goes and how the team performs.

And....All of those who were complaining about the acquisition of lever can now see just how pivotal a recruit he was. Sucks we lost him. No easy cover for us. 

I think the difference between this talk and, say, the talk we got in 2012 and 2013, is that we genuinely know we can be better, so the talk is an accurate reflection if a harsh reality. In 2012 and 2013 we had the likes of Jones and Grimes always talking about "lifting" and "not playing we want to play", but it was shallow PR talk. 

8 minutes ago, Wells 11 said:

Roos is gone and aint never coming back so forget that. Goodwin has some excellent traits and the players apparantly love him, but he's still learning. We see him now, perhpas for the first time in his career,  under real heat. Lets see how he goes and how the team performs.

And....All of those who were complaining about the acquisition of lever can now see just how pivotal a recruit he was. Sucks we lost him. No easy cover for us. 

I am one of them and it all boils down to poor list management. If we keep Dunn and Howe we still have 2 first rounders. He is yet to prove himself against a team with 2 key forwards and while he was playing well, he has far from justified what we gave up.

The club is incredibly lucky to have Lewis and I hope they run him through some coaching courses and keep him around when he finishes playing. Mostly his match day performances have him in our best 22. Is it time to start replacing him, ideally yes but with who and for what purpose? Do we have an obvious replacement? For mine he stays in but I'll let the club decide this one

Lewis can look after himself quite well me thinks, and he wouldn't have signed up otherwise. He is always very measured and smart on Fox, and is surrounded by fools and imbeciles. He and the other leaders at MFC are guiding this group through a minefield of Media flogs and smartarses that wander around in the ether trying to kick good people and make money and slouch reputations out of it.

I'm trying not to, but i think from here on, it doesn't really matter who we play,  more than how we play that is the crunch.Right up to the end, whenever it is.........

1 hour ago, Sir Why You Little said:

I haven’t seen the video as wifi in Northern Philippines drops in and out, but if Lewis is telling some truth on air, then good on him. 

That is his main job now. He has been to the mountain top 4 times

i don’t see why people on here are giving him a hard time

He is not supposed to play like a 23 year old, because he isn’t

He is there to teach onfield

Well said. If the shining light on field (physically speaking) was a 32 year old recruited for leadership I'd be seriously worried.  

Interestingly, the highlights they showed of him from the game were very serviceable IMO - he must have had some serious low-lights to tilt the scales the other way - thankfully I missed the game last week.

9 hours ago, Gorgoroth said:

It starts at the top. Glad to hear Goody gave it to them, hopefully the leadership group got an extra serving. 

Ive no5 watched 360 this week and prob won’t bother tonight either. TBH I highly doubt I’ll watch the game on Saturday, got other things on and will concentrate on them and just check scores from time to time.

I’m with you. I find myself getting too frustrated watching games these days, I planned on watching the whole game v the Saints, the game itself was bad enough and throw in the poor umpiring it’s simply unwatchable. I ended up heading out at half time and enjoying the rest of my weekend. 

1 hour ago, Watts the matter said:

I am one of them and it all boils down to poor list management. If we keep Dunn and Howe we still have 2 first rounders. He is yet to prove himself against a team with 2 key forwards and while he was playing well, he has far from justified what we gave up.

Howe walked out on us. not a list management decision

and do you remember how average Dunn was in the last year or two with us? He was slow, regularly beaten and was dropped despite our average defence.  I admit I have been surprised how well he has gone at the pies but he would not change much if he was at the Dees now

1 minute ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

I’m with you. I find myself getting too frustrated watching games these days, I planned on watching the whole game v the Saints, the game itself was bad enough and throw in the poor umpiring it’s simply unwatchable. I ended up heading out at half time and enjoying the rest of my weekend. 

Same with many supporters at the ground. Many walked out after Steven kicked the goal on Oscar late in the last.

When word filtered out that the margin was back to 14, then 8, hang on a minute let’s go back in, then 2 points, hope was restored and everyone watched the last 30 seconds on the screens around the thoroughfare. Not sure why as there is a delay on those screens. When the siren went it was like having faeces thrown at you twice in one day.

11 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

I’m with you. I find myself getting too frustrated watching games these days, I planned on watching the whole game v the Saints, the game itself was bad enough and throw in the poor umpiring it’s simply unwatchable. I ended up heading out at half time and enjoying the rest of my weekend. 

A message the AFL needs to hear.

TV = ratings.

My dear old dad has given up on footy and the Demons after all these years, instead picking up NRL/rugby (I always knew his judgement was suspect. NRL!)

16 minutes ago, Tricky said:

Well said. If the shining light on field (physically speaking) was a 32 year old recruited for leadership I'd be seriously worried.  

Interestingly, the highlights they showed of him from the game were very serviceable IMO - he must have had some serious low-lights to tilt the scales the other way - thankfully I missed the game last week.

Lewis may well be telling the kids exactly what to do and when to go, but if they are not following his instructions during a game, that is not the fault of Lewis

22 minutes ago, timbo said:

A message the AFL needs to hear.

TV = ratings.

My dear old dad has given up on footy and the Demons after all these years, instead picking up NRL/rugby (I always knew his judgement was suspect. NRL!)

My grandfather played for the Dees in the 50’s and 60’s, he gave up watching a few years ago. 

7 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

My grandfather played for the Dees in the 50’s and 60’s, he gave up watching a few years ago. 

I know a few ex fanatical AFL fans give up watching the game in the last 2 years, it's a very real thing. I'm finding the umpiring and state of the game plus commentators are a massive turn off.

Edited July 4, 20186 yr by SFebey

41 minutes ago, timbo said:

A message the AFL needs to hear.

TV = ratings.

My dear old dad has given up on footy and the Demons after all these years, instead picking up NRL/rugby (I always knew his judgement was suspect. NRL!)

 

18 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

My grandfather played for the Dees in the 50’s and 60’s, he gave up watching a few years ago. 

 

11 minutes ago, SFebey said:

I know a few ex fanatical AFL fans give up watching the game in the last 2 years, it's a very real thing. I'm finding the umpiring and state of the game plus commentators are a massive turn off.

I use to watch as many games as I could which could have been all of them as I’d flip between games on different channels, now I put them on, do other things and only half pay attention.

So many problems with the AFL at the moment. If it wasn’t for the Dees I rekon I’d be watching a lot less. 

At work I talk more NFL than AFL and can’t wait for the new season.

2 hours ago, DubDee said:

Howe walked out on us. not a list management decision

and do you remember how average Dunn was in the last year or two with us? He was slow, regularly beaten and was dropped despite our average defence.  I admit I have been surprised how well he has gone at the pies but he would not change much if he was at the Dees now

Dunn was, well, done.  The feeling at the time was that he was slow, one dimensional and didn’t fit with the emerging structures.  Kicking down the line all the time or blasting toros and way too slow.  Better to not rewrite history.  Good on him for doing well at the palace-o-pus, and sorry to hear about his knee.  

2 hours ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

My grandfather played for the Dees in the 50’s and 60’s, he gave up watching a few years ago. 

Who was grandpops?

3 minutes ago, dieter said:

Who was grandpops?

Ian Thorogood. 

45 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

Ian Thorogood. 

Great player. Loved watching him. Tough as well. He was reasonably successful coaching Carlton too, wasn't he?

6 minutes ago, dieter said:

Great player. Loved watching him. Tough as well. He was reasonably successful coaching Carlton too, wasn't he?

Two years at Carlton and not a bad W-L record (29-14). Coached the u19 Demons after he finished up there. 

Edited July 4, 20186 yr by Ethan Tremblay

56 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

Ian Thorogood. 

That's some very respectable lineage there my fellow Dee

7 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

Two years at Carlton and not a bad W-L record (29-14). Coached the u19 Demons after he finished up there. 

Not looking for a gig currently by chance ? ?

57 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

Ian Thorogood. 

I remember speaking to him some years ago at a function or AGM or something at the G. Nice bloke. Good tough footballer.

2 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

Not looking for a gig currently by chance ? ?

He is in his 80's.

Just now, Redleg said:

He is in his 80's.

I'm well aware.....he seems to have had good success...;) I'm not ageist.....I mean...I talk and share dim Sims with anyone

2 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

I'm well aware.....he seems to have had good success...;) I'm not ageist.....I mean...I talk and share dim Sims with anyone

The ones from South Melbourne Market I hope. Australia's leading Dim Sim.