Delisting, Trade and FA discussion 2018

[samcantstandya 949]

On Saturday, June 16, 2018 at 6:02 PM, WERRIDEE said:

For me it's delist Pedersen, Bugg, JKH, Johnstone, McKenna, Keilty

Trade Tyson, Stretch, Josh.Wagner, Garlett, Kent and Frost

Promote Tim.Smith

Rookie McKenna

Curious y would u rookie McKenna he hasnt played in nearly 2 years & who knows if he ever will.

[Constant Mongrel 571]

did someone say on another thread (gaff maybe?) that we would be keen on mcgovern. two questions. which mcgovern? and, was it that he is available and we SHOULD be interested or that we ARE interested? i can't see where either would fit into our team as is.. 

[SFebes 4,694]

I’d look at Freos Sean Darcy for a backup/team ruck for Gawn.

20 yo

201cm

111kgs

From Geelong Falcons and has played 8 games averaging 34 HOs per game 

thoughts?

[WERRIDEE 5,238]

23 hours ago, samcantstandya said:

Curious y would u rookie McKenna he hasnt played in nearly 2 years & who knows if he ever will.

That's the exact reason we don't know how good he could he could be. He was a relatively  high draft pick. Putting him on a rookie list won't hurt and if he's still injured all of next year delist him.

[spirit of norm smith 13,197]

Watch list- Sloane, Gaff, Mackay

interested in - Wright (Suns), Darcy (Freo) Campbell (Dogs).  Backup rucks behind Gawn but all are also forward capable. 

Speed is also in focus. Dahlhaus?

Delistings probables - Mckenna, Vandenburg, Johnstone

Delistings possibles- JKH, Kent, Pedersen, King,  Bugg, Filipivic (r)

trade possibilities  - Frost, Tyson

[WERRIDEE 5,238]

3 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Watch list- Sloane, Gaff, Mackay

interested in - Wright (Suns), Darcy (Freo) Campbell (Dogs).  Backup rucks behind Gawn but all are also forward capable. 

Speed is also in focus. Dahlhaus?

Delistings probables - Mckenna, Vandenburg, Johnstone

Delistings possibles- JKH, Kent, Pedersen, King,  Bugg, Filipivic (r)

trade possibilities  - Frost, Tyson

Sloane is too old for our list. Gaff is what we need, Mackay is what we don't need.

I don't think we need a back up ruckman, Weideman will do a good enough job until youngsters like King, Filipovic and Bradtke step up.

Dahlhaus hasn't had a kick for 2 years damaged goods.

[Ethan Tremblay 28,470]

51 minutes ago, SFebey said:

I’d look at Freos Sean Darcy for a backup/team ruck for Gawn.

20 yo

201cm

111kgs

From Geelong Falcons and has played 8 games averaging 34 HOs per game 

thoughts?

Has a bit of weight to lose but I thought he looked pretty promising last season. Definitely wouldn’t be against this. 

Edited June 18, 2018 by Ethan Tremblay

[SFebes 4,694]

1 minute ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

Has a bit of weight to lose but I thought he looked pretty promising last season. Definitely wouldn’t be against this. 

Probably Buckley’s as he’d be the next great hope after Sandi?

[DV8 2,271]

1 hour ago, SFebey said:

I’d look at Freos Sean Darcy for a backup/team ruck for Gawn.

20 yo

201cm

111kgs

From Geelong Falcons and has played 8 games averaging 34 HOs per game 

thoughts?

Any backup for Gawn, has to be a powerful mark, around the ground, and packs.

His backup, has to have lots of marking stats, this should be the primary stat, at an young age.  The hitouts will come with strength, but the marking ability is there, or not there.

 

Hitouts are overrated, unless they are in our players hands directly,,, and then the opposition will just hunt our Mids closely.  We have to get the clearances, and we have to control the flow of the game, around the wings and flanks, with marking ability, and top kicking.

[SFebes 4,694]

2 minutes ago, DV8 said:

Any backup for Gawn, has to be a powerful mark, around the ground, and packs.

His backup, has to have lots of marking stats, this should be the primary stat, at an young age.  The hitouts will come with strength, but the marking ability is there, or not there.

 

Hitouts are overrated, unless they are in our players hands directly,,, and then the opposition will just hunt our Mids closely.  We have to get the clearances, and we have to control the flow of the game, around the wings and flanks, with marking ability, and top kicking.

Preuss, but I reckon Cats will get him

[DV8 2,271]

36 minutes ago, DV8 said:

Any backup for Gawn, has to be a powerful mark, around the ground, and packs.

His backup, has to have lots of marking stats, this should be the primary stat, at an young age.  The hitouts will come with strength, but the marking ability is there, or not there.

 

Hitouts are overrated, unless they are in our players hands directly,,, and then the opposition will just hunt our Mids closely.  We have to get the clearances, and we have to control the flow of the game, around the wings and flanks, with marking ability, and top kicking.

 

34 minutes ago, SFebey said:

Preuss, but I reckon Cats will get him

don't know SFb. 

But I just found this... this might show some things of interest. have a look, as i do so myself.

https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_player_rankings?year=2018&rt=LA&st=MA

 

[DV8 2,271]

 

Trades and FA discussions - midfielders.

 

Here are some CLearance Stats, across the AFL,  for 2017,  &  2018.

2017 - https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_player_rankings?year=2017&rt=LA&st=CL

2018 - https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_player_rankings?year=2018&rt=LA&st=CL

 

How do you reckon we rate, against the rest ?

 

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[What 18,810]

On 6/18/2018 at 6:09 AM, Rocky said:

did someone say on another thread (gaff maybe?) that we would be keen on mcgovern. two questions. which mcgovern?

Mitch McGovern from Adelaide. One of the best contested marks in the comp, still only 23.

If we added him to Gawn, Hogan, T Mac, Fritsch and Lever..   our marking power would be absurd.

 

[SFebes 4,694]

From afl.com.au

 

[whatwhat say what 19,309]

they have dom tyson going to virtually every club!

[TeamPlayedFine39 8,186]

On 6/18/2018 at 7:57 PM, SFebey said:

I’d look at Freos Sean Darcy for a backup/team ruck for Gawn.

20 yo

201cm

111kgs

From Geelong Falcons and has played 8 games averaging 34 HOs per game 

thoughts?

I think he’s a gun and Freo wouldn’t part with him easily.  If he’s wanting to come home though, I’d be very happy to see us pursue him.

[Wiseblood 24,636]

I'd have a dip at Braydon Preuss, but he may want the number 1 ruck role which a club like Geelong may offer him.  Not sure he would be happy playing second fiddle to Gawn like he is to Goldy.

[daisycutter 28,639]

On 6/15/2018 at 12:09 PM, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

The ruck situation is a worry, with both of our developing or 'project' ruckmen being on the 'could go either way' list.

Hopefully there's some unsighted potential there and we can keep at least one of them on and look to trade in a mature ruck to help out.

It's looking very thin below Gawn and we need King or Filipovic to show something in the second half of the season.

we've got bradtke next year ?

[Adzman 2,085]

I would like to see McKenna at VFL level first before putting a line though him. He hasn't really played so he is a massive unknown.

 

 

[Constant Mongrel 571]

23 hours ago, Petraccattack said:

Mitch McGovern from Adelaide. One of the best contested marks in the comp, still only 23.

If we added him to Gawn, Hogan, T Mac, Fritsch and Lever..   our marking power would be absurd.

 

yeah, i know who he is. right.. he'd cost a mint though and i think we're still needing 2-3 mids. ah whatever, see how it plays.

[DV8 2,271]

7 hours ago, Wiseblood said:

I'd have a dip at Braydon Preuss, but he may want the number 1 ruck role which a club like Geelong may offer him.  Not sure he would be happy playing second fiddle to Gawn like he is to Goldy.

and Rory Lobb & Lycett.

[Big Demon 197]

On 6/17/2018 at 10:28 AM, Moonshadow said:

I could not disagree more. Vanders has had a couple of reasonable games in an injury crippled career. He's soooooo far away from 100% it's very doubtful he will play seniors this year, maybe not again. Brayshaw was a star before his concussion issues (remember his first game with 9 tackles?) And has made a sensational comeback to the extent that he would surely be near the top of the target list for Freo and WCE to join his brothers. He most certainly has a couple of 3 vote Brownlow games this year.

Keep Vanders and get rid of Gus? Crazy talk.

Vanders has gonads the size of a football and Does the hard stuff, seriously the Brownlow goes is your idea of quality? Mathews, Carey and Ablett snr how how many of these medals between them?

 

[DV8 2,271]

On 6/18/2018 at 11:25 PM, SFebey said:

Preuss, but I reckon Cats will get him

Preuss or Lycett, Lobb,...

 

Rory Lobb, already mature,,, in a team that has gone backwards this year.

He has the best marking average over his career, of these 3 rucks.
Lobb an Lycett are ready to roll, to fill in Now. 

I think strong marking and big numbers of marks, is the key.  the rest can follow, if you will.  These types can ruck, or be dangerous forward.

 

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players of interest ? for our side.

Lachie Whitfield.

Matt Buntine.

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If DShiel shakes loose, I want us to know.

Edited June 21, 2018 by DV8

[Moonshadow 16,347]

8 hours ago, Big Demon said:

Vanders has gonads the size of a football and Does the hard stuff, seriously the Brownlow goes is your idea of quality? Mathews, Carey and Ablett snr how how many of these medals between them?

 

So just to get this straight.... you'd keep a guy that's played a handful of senior games over a few years, who's had one injury after another, who struggles to get on the park,  just because of the size of his nuts and he goes in hard.... rather than keep a tough midfielder with excellent skills who also goes in hard, is reaching peak form, has a couple of BOGs already this year and is highly respected amongst his teammates, including the captain???

Keep Vanders and remove Gus from our list? Again, crazy talk. 

[Billy 2,011]

What about Weiderman & JKH for Darcy Moore?