1 hour ago, timbo said:

Hmm allow me to unpack this

Does one buy a membership based on the games (ie who we will play) or does one buy a membership to a) support the club and b) go to the games regardless?

One does as one pleases with ones own money and time would be my guess.

Unpacked.

Not everyone thinks the same. Individual choice and all that.

4 hours ago, Dockett 32 said:

Interesting topic.

I for one am glad the AFL is in charge of scheduling. 

I consider Collingwood may be very lucky for instance ,to have ANZAC day.

They simply didn’t have that many players go to war in comparison to the other clubs. ( Melbourne I believe had the highest participation). But that in itself, may be a totally different discussion?

Happy to leave to the AFL to sort out and also agree with PJ’s comments and stance.

 

 

Be fair, Dockett, Collingwood did not have that many to go to war relative to some other clubs and their representation in the ANZAC tradition is punching above their weight; their numbers may have been down in terms of airmen, seamen and soldiers, but that is only because of their two historical disadvantages:

1. They are too stupid to follow and apply tactics, strategies and to make effective decisions in a crisis, let alone exercise common sense in all other arenas of harmonious life and community, war and peace, local or national crises; and

2. They cannot take instructions from others, linked closely to their inability sustain constant thought processes for over 5 minutes. There is little in O Group briefings that they can understand (namely orders) or interpret and the use of innovation and self-evaluation are beyond them. Their subsequent inability to read and write is of limited value to the dissemination of grouped ideas and intentions.

In a revision of your fairness, Dockett, you must give Collingwood credit for their contribution to the war effort overall. Someone had to stay behind to clean the dunnies, make bullets in factories, sweep the streets and sew buttons on uniforms. 

3 hours ago, daisycutter said:

message to eddie (and dr who)

Hey, Daisycutter, where did you get that photograph of my mother-in-law?

20 minutes ago, Deemania since 56 said:

Be fair, Dockett, Collingwood did not have that many to go to war relative to some other clubs and their representation in the ANZAC tradition is punching above their weight; their numbers may have been down in terms of airmen, seamen and soldiers, but that is only because of their two historical disadvantages:

1. They are too stupid to follow and apply tactics, strategies and to make effective decisions in a crisis, let alone exercise common sense in all other arenas of harmonious life and community, war and peace, local or national crises; and

2. They cannot take instructions from others, linked closely to their inability sustain constant thought processes for over 5 minutes. There is little in O Group briefings that they can understand (namely orders) or interpret and the use of innovation and self-evaluation are beyond them. Their subsequent inability to read and write is of limited value to the dissemination of grouped ideas and intentions.

In a revision of your fairness, Dockett, you must give Collingwood credit for their contribution to the war effort overall. Someone had to stay behind to clean the dunnies, make bullets in factories, sweep the streets and sew buttons on uniforms. 

They may have failed the medical, too, if having your own teeth was considered to be an essential requirement in wartime.

21 minutes ago, Deemania since 56 said:

Hey, Daisycutter, where did you get that photograph of my mother-in-law?

family album.......mebbe we are related?

9 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

family album.......mebbe we are related?

Ain't she pretty? Soulful eyes, elite posture and bearing, well-tempered personality and just huggable? 

3 hours ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

From the article in the op I noticed this:

"Agreements have been made, it's going to alternate," the Pies president told AFL.com.au.  

Then,

"McGuire said he had spoken to former Melbourne board member, and a driving force behind 'Fight MND', Bill Guest about the prospects of next year's fifth event being a Collingwood home game".

Obviously the agreements haven't been made with Jackson/MFC so is it Bill Guest Eddie reached agreement with?  Guest is Chairman of 'Freeze MND' but its decades since he was an MFC Board member. 

Eddies is super sharp and knows full well the fixture and financial results for them if this game alternates.  But Eddie always has an angle...

It sounds to me that Eddie wants a piece of the MND action.  Good for their image and their 'Brand'.  He can then take centre stage.

I'm sure Eddie has an angle. He has more angles than a hexagon.

However, obviously future revenue is whats it all about.

Seeing the rise of the Demons and his own Pies, he sees $ signs all over this match over the next 5 years.

Massive crowds and media coverage, and resultant revenue.

His bias would mean that he would hate to see Melbourne cashing in.  

10 minutes ago, hemingway said:

I'm sure Eddie has an angle. He has more angles than a hexagon.

However, obviously future revenue is whats it all about.

Seeing the rise of the Demons and his own Pies, he sees $ signs all over this match over the next 5 years.

Massive crowds and media coverage, and resultant revenue.

His bias would mean that he would hate to see Melbourne cashing in.  

I think he looks more like a buckyball.

7 hours ago, number 27 said:

make queens birthday between MFC and EFC and alternate, makes sense with the reverend having ties with both clubs. Why couldn't MFC and CFC play on mothers day weekend? could sell pre game lunch to families, have the lunch on the ground as an experience etc etc

Good idea. Lot's of toothless "mothers" at the filth.

5 hours ago, CBDees said:

The thing that Eddie (and the AFL) conveniently fail to recognise is that the MCG has been Melbourne’s home ground for nearly 150 years and that we were originally the MCC Football Club. It is first and foremost our traditional home and all other Clubs are there at the behest of the MCC administration. Eddie can go and suck eggs or we can offer him a home game at Alice or Darwin! As for the AFL! 

History (extract) from our website

The rules of the Melbourne Football Club are formalised in 1859, with Wills and his cousin HCA Harrison being major contributors.  In the years that follow, other clubs come and go as the game further develops, including the first Richmond Football Club, and South Melbourne.  By 1873, Melbourne is exiled from the MCG due to turf damage.  The Victorian Football Association assumes control of the game in 1873.  Melbourne plays Carlton under lights at the MCG in 1879, before undergoing financial turmoil and being absorbed into the MCC in 1889.  In 1896, meetings are held to form the VFL.  The founding clubs are Melbourne, Carlton, Collingwood, Essendon, Fitzroy, Geelong, St Kilda and South Melbourne.

No Geelong as they are the second oldest team? The one thing that other teams CANNOT come to grips with is that the MCG is Melbourne's home ground and the rest of them are ONLY tennants. And yes the Melbourne Football Club is a club under the MCC umbrella. Long may that continue.

We should move this game to Darwin, that'll teach him!!

4 hours ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

From the article in the op I noticed this:

"Agreements have been made, it's going to alternate," the Pies president told AFL.com.au.  

Then,

"McGuire said he had spoken to former Melbourne board member, and a driving force behind 'Fight MND', Bill Guest about the prospects of next year's fifth event being a Collingwood home game".

Obviously the agreements haven't been made with Jackson/MFC so is it Bill Guest Eddie reached agreement with?  Guest is Chairman of 'Freeze MND' but its decades since he was an MFC Board member. 

Eddies is super sharp and knows full well the fixture and financial results for them if this game alternates.  But Eddie always has an angle...

It sounds to me that Eddie wants a piece of the MND action.  Good for their image and their 'Brand'.  He can then take centre stage.

And Bill Guest currently has a say to the AFL on "fixturing"? He does not speak or give agreements on behalf of the Melbourne Football Club. Christ he gave all the staff working for Guest's furniture MFC memberships to vote his way on the merger. Will never forget that.

Given that we've had an 18 year free kick it's a bit rude to treat him like a heel now. But it's Eddie so carry on.

10 minutes ago, MT64 said:

And Bill Guest currently has a say to the AFL on "fixturing"? He does not speak or give agreements on behalf of the Melbourne Football Club. Christ he gave all the staff working for Guest's furniture MFC memberships to vote his way on the merger. Will never forget that.

Ditto. 

Tiger I forgive. He was upfront and delivered an unpopular view. He took a lot of heat. 

Guest may have done a lot for the MFC over the years but his involvement In the voting fix was unforgivable and a complete misuse of his position and power. 

 

18 hours ago, Colin B. Flaubert said:

The thing that annoys me that this is a standard Eddie PR game.

Instead of allowing discussions to continue on in good faith behind the scenes, Ed has used his media profile to yet again set the agenda for the discussions and cast he and Collingwood as somehow the victims of a rort (it seeped through in the welfare comment at the end) even though they fart 50 dollar notes everytime they break wind. He did it in the early 00's when Brisbane beat them in the Granny. It happened again when the Swans were winning flags.

I don't have any problem with alternating eventually. It's the way Eddie had huffed and puffed to get his own way as usual that has s****ed me.

This is the reason why people talk about conflict of interest with Eddie. He has a platform to influence AFL policy in a way that other presidents can not. And he is shameless about it.

Spot on with you post ! 

2 hours ago, Deemania since 56 said:

Be fair, Dockett, Collingwood did not have that many to go to war relative to some other clubs and their representation in the ANZAC tradition is punching above their weight; their numbers may have been down in terms of airmen, seamen and soldiers, but that is only because of their two historical disadvantages:

1. They are too stupid to follow and apply tactics, strategies and to make effective decisions in a crisis, let alone exercise common sense in all other arenas of harmonious life and community, war and peace, local or national crises; and

2. They cannot take instructions from others, linked closely to their inability sustain constant thought processes for over 5 minutes. There is little in O Group briefings that they can understand (namely orders) or interpret and the use of innovation and self-evaluation are beyond them. Their subsequent inability to read and write is of limited value to the dissemination of grouped ideas and intentions.

In a revision of your fairness, Dockett, you must give Collingwood credit for their contribution to the war effort overall. Someone had to stay behind to clean the dunnies, make bullets in factories, sweep the streets and sew buttons on uniforms. 

I would also add that in the intense battle of war, combatants should not be involved where loose articles of person or uniform can cause impact injury. That cuts out anyone with denture ...with or without front teeth!

4 hours ago, Red and Bluebeard said:

In recent times, yes. But the record crowd for any home and away game ever is 99,256 who attended on QB back in 1958.

I was one of those as a kid , also at the game at Victoria Park that year, that was a draw! 

5 hours ago, Wadda We Sing said:

Whos birthday is it again....The Queens or Eddies?

 

It is only fair that if the home status does change to a rotation basis we should be entitled to an area of the grounds seating for our supporters & members when or if they host the game.

The equivalent size of the Western stand should suffice.

Edited June 5, 20186 yr by Macca

Like: Dees home game on QB

Dislike: Eddie (Gross Human being) McGuire

That is all I have to say about that.

I was chatting to a demented pensioner in Bendigo recently about the Mall there.

"We are ripping it out next week ,it's all going back to road, it's not working properly,I'm on the committee and I've had enough"

"Righto ,that's it then!" I replied.

Similarly ,I'll eat a full sidchrome set of spanners if Collingwood get QB as a home game next year.

 

You'll look like a toothless Collingwood supporter if you do that biffen

This is clearly in retaliation for the '26, '39, '55, '56, '60 and '64 grand final wins. He needs to let it go and move on. 

6 hours ago, Petraccattack said:

Was mentioned on the afl.com news wrap video yesterday that the MFC is lobbying the AFL for a Round 1 Friday night blockbuster vs the Pies next season.

So we can unfurl the flag in front of them?

Just now, Dr. Gonzo said:

So we can unfurl the flag in front of them?

surely we could unfurl our aflx premiership flag next monday?