Dylan Shiel

[Diamond_Jim 12,590]

16 minutes ago, SFebes said:

Shiel is off to Bombers.

do you know what pick and approx money?

[SFebes 4,884]

Just now, Diamond_Jim said:

do you know what pick and approx money?

Just nominated but Plough thinking pick 9 this year and Essendon's first round next year as starting point. Will let you know Jim.

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1 minute ago, Diamond_Jim said:

do you know what pick and approx money?

Bombers shouldn't need much to give much.  It's a salary dump by GWS

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1 minute ago, SFebes said:

Just nominated but Plough thinking pick 9 this year and Essendon's first round next year as starting point. Will let you know Jim.

Yet the media think Jesse is worth only one top 10 pick!! Complete idiots!! 

Getting a bit tired of 'media' undervaluing our players and (in a relative trade sense) overvaluing those of other clubs!  I know I shouldn't pay any attention but they tended to set the narrative and it is painful!

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1 minute ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Yet the media think Jesse is worth only one top 10 pick!! Complete idiots!! 

Getting a bit tired of 'media' undervaluing our players and (in a relative trade sense) overvaluing those of other clubs!  I know I shouldn't pay any attention but they tended to set the narrative and it is painful!

so is the word narrative

[SFebes 4,884]

1 minute ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Yet the media think Jesse is worth only one top 10 pick!! Complete idiots!! 

Getting a bit tired of 'media' undervaluing our players and (in a relative trade sense) overvaluing those of other clubs!  I know I shouldn't pay any attention but they tended to set the narrative and it is painful!

Definitely media undervaluing our players this year LH, think a bit jealous about our gun kids perhaps, really noticeable. 

[Diamond_Jim 12,590]

1 minute ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Yet the media think Jesse is worth only one top 10 pick!! Complete idiots!! 

Getting a bit tired of 'media' undervaluing our players and (in a relative trade sense) overvaluing those of other clubs!  I know I shouldn't pay any attention but they tended to set the narrative and it is painful!

midfielders are where the gold is these days

Richmond and Dog's success has seemingly dulled the need for KPF's.

Another reason perhaps for keeping Hogan for 2019 if we don't get what we want as the fashion could change again with the WCE victory

[GCDee 3,199]

1 hour ago, CBDees said:

Sheil a GWS reject? I guess your more qualified than eighteen FD managers! ?

If a player has been told to go look elsewhere due to cap reasons, the giants clearly dont rank him as a top tier player. So yes I would say he is another GWS reject. Yes better quality than Jarrod Pickett but still at the end of the day was told to look elsewhere. 

Many others well above him in importance at the giants clearly. 

To be honest he is a B+ type player, not worth selling your future for 5 years out of a B+ mid. 

Further to that seems only 4 clubs were interested not 17. 

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6 minutes ago, GCDee said:

If a player has been told to go look elsewhere due to cap reasons, the giants clearly dont rank him as a top tier player. So yes I would say he is another GWS reject. Yes better quality than Jarrod Pickett but still at the end of the day was told to look elsewhere. 

Many others well above him in importance at the giants clearly. 

To be honest he is a B+ type player, not worth selling your future for 5 years out of a B+ mid. 

Further to that seems only 4 clubs were interested not 17. 

his rumoured salary offer is $1M+ so he's definitely not a B grader

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-trade-whispers-carltons-1mplus-a-year-offer-for-dylan-shiel-may-push-rory-lobb-out-gold-coasts-offer-for-jake-lloyd/news-story/97a70d232862422c9b13f83362b932f7?nk=34fd14988ab099a0a18aab69e413ab5d-1539055136

It's a bit like us and Hogan.. GWS bat deep in the midfield area where by good luck we have 3 KPF's

Edited October 9, 2018 by Diamond_Jim

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16 minutes ago, SFebes said:

Just nominated but Plough thinking pick 9 this year and Essendon's first round next year as starting point. Will let you know Jim.

So Plough thinks a 26 year old Shiel, is worth pick 9 this year and a first round next year as a starting point, for a good small mid, whose kicking is a little wonky.

Jesse a 23 year old key forward who could be anything is only worth one first rounder. Go figure.

[Older demon 2,741]

Well surprise surprise. I play golf with his uncle who told me weeks ago the family were really keen to see Dylan return home. he spun the story about Dylan being a Caulfield Grammarian, who idolised Judd and barracked for Carlton. He said he didn't know who was the preferred club but as a staunch Bombers fan, he sincerely hoped that Dylan would choose the Dons. We looks like my golf mate got his wish, and I will be asking lots of questions this Friday.

[SFebes 4,884]

6 minutes ago, Redleg said:

So Plough thinks a 26 year old Shiel, is worth pick 9 this year and a first round next year as a starting point, for a good small mid, whose kicking is a little wonky.

Jesse a 23 year old key forward who could be anything is only worth one first rounder. Go figure.

Haven't you learnt yet, our club must be punished and then stoned to death. We aren't allowed happiness or good outcomes.

[Its Time for Another 4,223]

40 minutes ago, SFebes said:

Just nominated but Plough thinking pick 9 this year and Essendon's first round next year as starting point. Will let you know Jim.

It's seriously important to take any opinions in the press with a grain of salt.  Plough thinks this but Treloar was traded for 2 pick 7's and a swap back of some picks. But Hogan is a once in a generation key forward who is tracking better than any of the great key forwards but is only worth a single first rounder. 

I really don't understand the thinking.  Most of the people on Trade Radio are a complete waste of time. 

I'm just going to wait till 17 Oct 8.30pm or when there's any other official news. 

[GCDee 3,199]

24 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

his rumoured salary offer is $1M+ so he's definitely not a B grader

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-trade-whispers-carltons-1mplus-a-year-offer-for-dylan-shiel-may-push-rory-lobb-out-gold-coasts-offer-for-jake-lloyd/news-story/97a70d232862422c9b13f83362b932f7?nk=34fd14988ab099a0a18aab69e413ab5d-1539055136

It's a bit like us and Hogan.. GWS bat deep in the midfield area where by good luck we have 3 KPF's

Tom Boyd, Tom Scully & Kurt Tippett all players who have had a million plus salary and aren't A grade players. 

Sheil is a decent player don't get me wrong, however I really dont think he will be missed a GWS, and his disposable isnt crash hot.

[Cards13 9,117]

1 hour ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

At least he saw through Carlton’s 1980’s style grease trap. 

Who doesn’t love a free trip to Noosa, that goes on the Blues soft cap number haha.

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Shiel has played some excellent football, but his 2018 was very average.

I've no problems with him going to Essendon as I think it'll take a lot more than Shiel to see them make the required improvement. 

However... we all now need to brace ourselves for another summer of the media shoving Essendon premiership articles down our throats after yet another 'trade coup'.

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16 minutes ago, It's Time said:

It's seriously important to take any opinions in the press with a grain of salt. 

As a general rule, I don't believe anyone in the press....or clubs, players or managers, they're all spin masters. If they say one thing, I assume the opposite.

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https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl

Essendon's financial offer to Shiel was signficantly lower than the other three clubs and he will be paid well under $1 million dollars next year.

Really! 

I get why players like Dusty and Gaff forfeit really big bucks to stay at a club they love and are loved by all there.  And, I get why Shiel would spurn the advances and big bucks from Saints and Blues - clubs doing poorly whose coaches may not be there too much longer. 

But to choose Ess and a lot less money over premiership candidate Hawks is beyond me!  Ess must have their own stash of brown paper bags!!!!

 

Edited October 9, 2018 by Lucifer's Hero

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19 minutes ago, Cards13 said:

Who doesn’t love a free trip to Noosa, that goes on the Blues soft cap number haha.

I would have jumped at it. I suppose I laugh because it’s just so cheesy and over the top. I pictured Shiel getting to Noosa, opening the door to his room and Judd sitting there at the table in a suit. If the limo and private jet haven’t gotten him over the line, Judd waiting in his room wearing a suit will surely will. Great work SOS and Co. 

Edited October 9, 2018 by Ethan Tremblay

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5 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl

Essendon's financial offer to Shiel was signficantly lower than the other three clubs and he will be paid well under $1 million dollars next year.

Really! 

I get why players like Dusty and Gaff forfeit really big bucks to stay at a club they love and are loved by all there.  And, I get why Shiel would spurn the advances and big bucks from Saints and Blues - clubs doing poorly whose coaches may not be there too much longer. 

But to choose Ess and a lot less money over premiership candidate Hawks is beyond me!  Ess must have their own stash of brown paper bags!!!!

 

Spin and more spin.

Less than $1m this year but how much more than $1m the next few years?

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Perhaps Shiel has a part time job as promotional ambassador for one of Essendon’s sponsors. (Like Chris Judds visyboard deal !!!!)

[M_9 2,082]

28 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

.....  Ess must have their own stash of brown paper bags!!!!

 

Er, just a reminder that Paul Little sold Toll to the Japanese for $6.5 billion.

Edited October 9, 2018 by M_9

[SFebes 4,884]

Shiel must be a junkie, good injecting rooms at the Hangar.

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1 hour ago, Redleg said:

Spin and more spin.

Less than $1m this year but how much more than $1m the next few years?

Pretty sure the deal is significantly less overall. 

Latest spin is the lure of a premiership is what sold him...

Nah, I like the brown paper bags theory and @M_9 's reminder of their billionaire ex President... ?  

...who probably has lots of private jets to fly Mr Shiel around...

Edited October 9, 2018 by Lucifer's Hero

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43 minutes ago, SFebes said:

Shiel must be a junkie, good injecting rooms at the Hangar.

F@#% Essenscum. Now the druggies are going to buy a flag. This really pizzez me off. Maybe Shiel wants to bum chum with his mate Smith.