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Matsuo Basho   1,053

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11 minutes ago, Moonshadow said:

Would love for us or another club to make a decent bid for the next Silvagni son this year. Force their hand so as to not get him cheaply

If the next Silvagni son is on a par with the current one he’d be worth roughly pick 88 in the rookie draft. Absolute spud Jack Silvagni.

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The definition of being on a list because of who his father was. Only in this instance, if I remember rightly, his father recruited him as well.

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31 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

It was meant to be traded.

It's kind of the Clayton's second round pick. The priority given to the recipient clubs did not upset the other clubs with their various draft picks including for that matter the MFC.

Don't think that's right Jim.  Gold Coast have selected a couple of state league players already I think.

As Saber and Cards said above, the deal with Geelong makes no sense at all, and is just plain stupid.

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18 minutes ago, The Chazz said:

Don't think that's right Jim.  Gold Coast have selected a couple of state league players already I think.

As Saber and Cards said above, the deal with Geelong makes no sense at all, and is just plain stupid.

It makes sense to Geelong if they had to use a higher pick than 43 to draft Nathan Kreuger, a 19yo, tall swingman playing in the SANFL.  Highly likely Crows or Port had their sights on him with a higher pick.  

To me this is against the spirit of the concessions:  for GCS and Carlton to top up with experienced players before other clubs can draft them.  GCS is doing just that.  Carlton is cashing in the players for picks.  The beneficiary in this case is Geelong who get a player on the cheap before anyone else gets a chance.

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34 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

It makes sense to Geelong if they had to use a higher pick than 43 to draft Nathan Kreuger, a 19yo, tall swingman playing in the SANFL.  Highly likely Crows or Port had their sights on him with a higher pick.  

Wouldn't an intelligent list manager have started a bidding war for the concession pick, considering many clubs would've had their sights set on hidden gems? Create paranoia and play clubs against clubs, wait until someone blinks and offers overs.

Oh, nope. We'll just settle for some shitty pick in the 50s on day 1 from the first club that asks. Nevermind all that. ?

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3 hours ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

It makes sense to Geelong if they had to use a higher pick than 43 to draft Nathan Kreuger, a 19yo, tall swingman playing in the SANFL.  Highly likely Crows or Port had their sights on him with a higher pick.  

To me this is against the spirit of the concessions:  for GCS and Carlton to top up with experienced players before other clubs can draft them.  GCS is doing just that.  Carlton is cashing in the players for picks.  The beneficiary in this case is Geelong who get a player on the cheap before anyone else gets a chance.

Every club had the chance to do the deal, Cats probably were front and center.

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5 hours ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

Carlton’s list build has been woeful. 

Disagree it's built around a spine and will take longer than ours. The main pieces are there and from 2020 they will be where we were last year

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8 hours ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

It makes sense to Geelong if they had to use a higher pick than 43 to draft Nathan Kreuger, a 19yo, tall swingman playing in the SANFL.  Highly likely Crows or Port had their sights on him with a higher pick.  

To me this is against the spirit of the concessions:  for GCS and Carlton to top up with experienced players before other clubs can draft them.  GCS is doing just that.  Carlton is cashing in the players for picks.  The beneficiary in this case is Geelong who get a player on the cheap before anyone else gets a chance.

Kreuger is likely to be able to play too.  Geelong's recent record with this type is excellent - Tim Kelly and Stewart.

If Carlton use the pick on say Setterfield then it looks closer to the AFL intent.

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With Setterfield nominating Carlton as his club of choice, what do people think about them potentially giving up Pick 1 for Shiel and Setterfield.  Too much?  I think that's a fair deal - I know Pick 1 is a big deal, but Setterfield was the fifth pick just a few years back and Shiel is still a very, very good player who will slot in very well alongside Cripps.

If we had Pick 1 would you do that deal, or try and pull something else off and hope it's enough so you could still take Pick 1 to the draft?

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53 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

With Setterfield nominating Carlton as his club of choice, what do people think about them potentially giving up Pick 1 for Shiel and Setterfield.  Too much?  I think that's a fair deal - I know Pick 1 is a big deal, but Setterfield was the fifth pick just a few years back and Shiel is still a very, very good player who will slot in very well alongside Cripps.

If we had Pick 1 would you do that deal, or try and pull something else off and hope it's enough so you could still take Pick 1 to the draft?

I think it’s probably a bit much, maybe another sweetener added to that and it’s a good deal. 

I just can’t see Carlton moving pick 1 unless it’s for an insane deal. 

I suspect they will try next years first 

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59 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

With Setterfield nominating Carlton as his club of choice, what do people think about them potentially giving up Pick 1 for Shiel and Setterfield.  Too much?  I think that's a fair deal - I know Pick 1 is a big deal, but Setterfield was the fifth pick just a few years back and Shiel is still a very, very good player who will slot in very well alongside Cripps.

If we had Pick 1 would you do that deal, or try and pull something else off and hope it's enough so you could still take Pick 1 to the draft?

They would be crazy to do that deal. 

Carlton need to build players to be hitting their prime in 4 years. Not bring in GWS reject over & over. 

 

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1 hour ago, GCDee said:

They would be crazy to do that deal. 

Carlton need to build players to be hitting their prime in 4 years. Not bring in GWS reject over & over. 

 

Sheil a GWS reject? I guess your more qualified than eighteen FD managers! ?

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18 hours ago, EnterTheDragon said:

If the next Silvagni son is on a par with the current one he’d be worth roughly pick 88 in the rookie draft. Absolute spud Jack Silvagni.

Only one reason he is on a list.

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18 hours ago, A F said:

The definition of being on a list because of who his father was. Only in this instance, if I remember rightly, his father recruited him as well.

Only reason Father came back to Carltank.

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