28 minutes ago, Watson11 said:

I was keen on Gaff but aren’t sure whether bringing in “superstars” on giant money works.  Buddy was a success commercially and individually but for Sydney an overall fail football wise.  Sydney have given up some critical talent the last 5 years.  I actually hope Richmond get Lynch as I think it will weaken their culture and if it does they’ll be mediocre.  I’d rather back JT to draft some elite outside speed via the draft and continue to retain and develop our current list.

 

agree with last sentence.

what you get is what you give up. money and players.

I would hate to see our list broken up, except for some fringe dwellers and your not going to get a deal done for a gun by trading fringe dwellers. 

19 hours ago, layzie said:

Do people really think a move to North would be all about money? Not exactly bottom feeders. They showed a lot of promise this season and along with Polec joining is have them pushing for the 8 next season. 

That strategy worked well for Port.....

43 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

That strategy worked well for Port.....

Silly comparison.

What is going on at North? Apparently have Polec, Hall and Newman wanting to join them and an offer over $8m for 7 years for Gaff on the table. They will need to shed more than Preuss to fit all these players in.

Edited September 19, 20186 yr by Redleg

8 hours ago, Petraccattack said:

 Kelly,  Sheil or Whitfield....  one of them will be a Demon.

 

Haha, HH. Youse are funnys.

2 hours ago, Redleg said:

What is going on at North? Apparently have Polec, Hall and Newman wanting to join them and an offer over $8m for 7 years for Gaff on the table. They will need to shed more than Preuss to fit all these players in.

Unbelievable. 

Thats 600k, 180k, 80k and $1.1m 

added $1.96million to this years salary cap!!!

bazinga who leaving kangas

25 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Unbelievable. 

Thats 600k, 180k, 80k and $1.1m 

added $1.96million to this years salary cap!!!

bazinga who leaving kangas

Polec will be on 750. 

No way hall leaves for 180.... more like 300-400 (average salary is now in the 4s I believe) 

Newman at 100ish sounds about right.

 

1 hour ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Unbelievable. 

Thats 600k, 180k, 80k and $1.1m 

added $1.96million to this years salary cap!!!

bazinga who leaving kangas

SC increased from $10.37 to $12.45mill this year. That might account for some of it. Plus the kangas have been stockpiling SC cash space since being knocked back by Dusty and Kelly. 

It not unrealistic for them to land all of those mentioned. Whether they are all any good or want to play for a club outside the 8 is another issue. 

12 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

The pitchforks on here will be coming for your blood if this is proved incorrect..

Me included. 

Leave your address here... I will send you my blood. I will be keeping my testicles anyhow! Gaff#??

13 hours ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

Gut feeling? 

Yes it is a gut feeling! I cannot understand why he would have already ruled out the Dees... That’s BS!

Angus maybe? Surely not! 

We are still in play! He is a Free Agent and we don’t have too trade for him.

Gaff will be on board the Saturday afternoon flight with his new team mates! His locker is already empty at the Eagles Nest! 

ProDee’s explanation sounds plausible to me and the source is credible. Can’t see Gaff coming.

As an aside, it’s funny how so many assume that players interested in success must be coming to the Dees and players going anywhere else must be mercenary. A lot of posters in this thread are showing a hint of the “Tex Walkers”.

Seems, sadly, like pro dee has the best info here. Have we actually landed a quality free agent ..like ever? Seems like every year its Essendon, Geelong, Hawks. Ok Port tried their hand unsuccessfully. And now North are having a real go. 

When we were crap and had money we couldnt attract as we were, well, crap. I remember that huge offer to dangerfield that fell through. Ironically enough becuase Roos wanted to hang on to Watts. But I dont think Danger was choosing us anyway. Now we're not crap we cant land any because we cant pay or be flexible enough in our thinking re positions. How do the hawks do it every frikn year? 

I know some were upset about what we paid for Lever....but I always thought that was a decent trade. Its gotten even better now, given where we are finishing. I think we trade well. But acquiring quality free agents has never been something we've been able to do. We're building a team the more traditional way....lets hope it can pay the ultinate dividend. 

10 minutes ago, Wells 11 said:

Seems, sadly, like pro dee has the best info here. Have we actually landed a quality free agent ..like ever? Seems like every year its Essendon, Geelong, Hawks. Ok Port tried their hand unsuccessfully. And now North are having a real go. 

We’re building very nicely without having overpaid for a free agent. 

51 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

We’re building very nicely without having overpaid for a free agent. 

Looking back to the Hawthorn game, the list was a shambles. 

The turnaround has been great and player development promising but I would still love an A grade talent through FA at the club. 

"I won’t confirm any of it (North Melbourne’s reported offer), but I will say that money’s got no factor," Connors said at the NAB AFL Trade Radio launch.

https://wwos.nine.com.au/afl/afl-andrew-gaff-free-agent-decision-not-motivated-by-money-says-manager/955348a5-88ab-467b-83ef-8b4f3019f350

Planting the "expect to miss out" seed for Norf.

LOL Norf!

 

Yeh he’s going to Norf to be part of a club that prides itself on being mediocre and to be coached by Brad Scott.

Edited September 20, 20186 yr by Ethan Tremblay

58 minutes ago, JTR said:

"I won’t confirm any of it (North Melbourne’s reported offer), but I will say that money’s got no factor," Connors said at the NAB AFL Trade Radio launch.

https://wwos.nine.com.au/afl/afl-andrew-gaff-free-agent-decision-not-motivated-by-money-says-manager/955348a5-88ab-467b-83ef-8b4f3019f350

Planting the "expect to miss out" seed for Norf.

LOL Norf!

 

I would LOL so hard if all they end up with is Newman, Hall & Polec this trade period all on inflated contracts. 

2 minutes ago, GCDee said:

I would LOL so hard if all they end up with is Newman, Hall & Polec this trade period all on inflated contracts. 

Port Adelaide trade period mk2.

Meh.

I would be perfectly happy to save our cash, and go all out for Kelly at the end of next year, and with a 1st round pick (pick 18?!) at our disposal.

Gaff is not going to be the difference between winning a premiership or not. He is a good player, but as ProDee said, he wants to play inside mid and we have plenty of equal or better options than him already.

On 9/19/2018 at 11:02 AM, layzie said:

Man I'm confused! After checking the definition of free agency you appear to be correct, but if Lever was a restricted free agent why did we have to do a trade? Another question is was he even a restricted free agent at all? If not then that got misreported a fair bit.

Lever wasn't a Free Agent.  With all the discussion associated with that trade last year it's difficult to understand how you came to think that?

1 minute ago, Fifty-5 said:

Lever wasn't a Free Agent.  With all the discussion associated with that trade last year it's difficult to understand how you came to think that?

It’s difficult understand how you could miss the part where I said it was misreported a fair bit..

1 hour ago, layzie said:

It’s difficult understand how you could miss the part where I said it was misreported a fair bit..

I never saw him reported as a Free Agent.  Link to evidence?

9 hours ago, Fifty-5 said:

I never saw him reported as a Free Agent.  Link to evidence?

Sorry mate, last night was rough. Didn’t mean to be flippant as you were simply asking a question.

At the time there were at least 3 articles like the one below that suggested Lever was out of contract.

https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl/teams/adelaide/young-adelaide-crows-defender-jake-lever-declares-his-intent-to-return-to-victoria/news-story/0b904aa6d47fb8e6eb099aafe9cff021

It led me to believe that he was a restricted free agent (due to not being in the system for 8 years or whatever it is). It even says Adelaide would have forced him into the Pre Season draft if need be. If he wasn’t a free agent would they have just paid him out and delisted him to do this?

There’s been a lot of confusion understanding free agency since it’s come in. At first it seemed like the AFL sorted all compensation either restricted or unrestricted but after that trade I and I think many others started thinking that you had to trade for an RFA. It seems like the whole thing was wrong and he was in contract and that this was just a clear trade.

Learning on the fly. 

I herd about May that Gaff was heading to Melbourne... so the north melb one is intriguing... all smoke and mirrors

6 hours ago, Ugottobekidding said:

I herd about May that Gaff was heading to Melbourne... so the north melb one is intriguing... all smoke and mirrors

Yep! He will end up at Melbourne... Lock stock and two smoking barrels...

6 minutes ago, Dee tention said:

Yep! He will end up at Melbourne... Lock stock and two smoking barrels...

Lock , stock and two smoking barrels was the worst movie I ever ever saw!

So if you are quoting that friend I am skeptical! Can you furnish us with anything more substantial?