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18 minutes ago, Steve Lattimer said:

You're not really comming across as someone who understands AFL very well.

Gee sorry, didn’t realise I was in the presence of greatness. 

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    1 hour ago, The Chief said:

    Harmes racks up useless possessions, shocking disposal  

    Happily agree with this part of your argument Chief. 

    He gets to the contest very well but from then on it's a raffle of whether he spoils the efforts of team mates or his handball drops straight to the deck. Good tackler without being very effective. A bit of confidence from the win might improve his dreadful disposal. In the last quarter he dished off a nice handball but that's about all I can recall.

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    1 hour ago, The Chief said:

    It’s obvious Weideman is not up to AFL standard at the moment, we’re playing with 17 when he’s on the ground. Need to prioritise winning over development. Harmes racks up useless possessions, shocking disposal  

    Out Weideman & Harmes

    In T Smith & Petracca 

    I think Weed has been great since coming  back in, he also started the clunk a few in the second half. 

    But he never gets out marked, he is very quick to tackle once the ball hits the deck and his ruck work has been pretty good.

    Can't see him coming out this week.

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    Thought Hunt blazed away and wasted possession.  He had footspeed, but he either has to do better, or go back.

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    8 minutes ago, buck_nekkid said:

    Thought Hunt blazed away and wasted possession.  He had footspeed, but he either has to do better, or go back.

    He's out of form and down on fitness by the looks of how much he's often blowing. But his pace makes a huge different both in attack and defending. We really don't have anyone to bring in for him. The backline were excellent all day and I wouldn't make a change.

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    Maybe Vince gets a rest next week.

    I was surprised he played with the 4 day break and hes hardly setting the world on fire.

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    Will be interesting to c if the three amigos Hannan, Fristch and Spargo can repeat this weeks performance next week. 

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    1 hour ago, The Chief said:

    It’s obvious Weideman is not up to AFL standard at the moment, we’re playing with 17 when he’s on the ground. Need to prioritise winning over development. Harmes racks up useless possessions, shocking disposal  

    Out Weideman & Harmes

    In T Smith & Petracca 

    Absolute bollocks, Weideman looks alright, like all bigger blokes he’ll take a bit longer, he was good against Tigers and did enough today to keep his spot, out ANB, in Petracca, ANB has done nothing all year, a waste of player at the minute

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    ANB is in terrible form but I wouldn't directly replace him with Petracca, not when the rest of the forward line is mostly taller players without great pressure or fitness.

    One of the talls has to make way if Tracc comes back - and that's an if at this stage. I'm a Weid's fan and he was very good against Richmond and ok today - he's especially handy around the ground as a ruck. But to get Tracc back in he's the logical out as Tommy Mc builds fitness. I don't believe that Weideman is hampered by returning to Casey. He's still young enough that he doesn't desperately need games.

    The bench at the end of the game was Tommy Mc, Hogan, Melksham and Salem. I'd be watching to see if they are all right to go during the week.

    Tim Smith would have to be in the wings as well if Hogan or Petracca isn't right or if Tommy pulls up sore. In fact if the club believe Smith can do something as a midfield type player as a high half forward he might be the way to replace ANB. Double change - Weids and ANB for Petracca and Smith - that way you keep the same forward pressure and don't lose the aerial threat.

    Maynard is about the only other option to replace ANB. He could play high half forward and maybe swap in and out with Harmes and Tracc.

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    Weid looks exactly like a 12 game, 20 year old 195 cm KPF should look. 

    Promising highlights, some good traits, and in need of a bit of experience at AFL level to put it all together. 

     

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    1 hour ago, The Chief said:

    It’s obvious Weideman is not up to AFL standard at the moment, we’re playing with 17 when he’s on the ground. Need to prioritise winning over development. Harmes racks up useless possessions, shocking disposal  

    Out Weideman & Harmes

    In T Smith & Petracca 

    I'd rather Harmes never touches the ball but his defensive work around the ground was very good today. Jones, Oliver and Brayshaw could hunt the ball because Harmes was the negating midfielder. Petracca in his spot would be adding in another attacking midfielder and distorting the tentative balance we found today.

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    1 hour ago, The Chief said:

    Spin it what ever way you like pal. Players who have as little impact as Weideman currently is having, don’t make it in AFL. 

    OMac was in this same position 18 months ago. How's he doing now? Weideman is fine, is contributing, and will be a very very good AFL player.

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    In: Petracca

    Out: ANB

    I have a feeling Weideman might be the unlucky one though considering St Kilda are small and nippy meaning it will be harder to carry a taller player.

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    I don't think Trac will play next week maybe the week after, no need to rush him back for the saints game.

    Out- Tyson

    In- Pedo or one of the Smith boys

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    I'm not sure Trac will be ready next week, based on the Casey outing it would be hard for anyone other than Smith to get the nod.

    The outs discussions are interesting. ANB is certainly not at his best, and I agree that Tyson's disposal stops him from being the damaging player we need him to be.

    If Trac is ready, I think ANB could make way over Tyson.

    I think Weeds gets one more week to see what he can do. Tim Smith is lurking.

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    29 minutes ago, Petraccattack said:

    Maybe Vince gets a rest next week.

    I was surprised he played with the 4 day break and hes hardly setting the world on fire.

    Yep Vince & ANB for Petracca & T Smith

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    Harmes continues to bite of more than he can chew as a clearance mid. If he’s playing this role he can work on it in the twos.

    Id keep him in but he needs to go to a wing/flank

    Tyson played his best footy in the inside role and was great for us. Let’s put him back to where he can excel instead of languishing on a wing where his kicking and speed is continually exposed. I’m a Tyson fan and keeping the faith but he’s playing in a role that does nothing for him.

    Trac in for ANB as the kid is cooked right now. 

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    Weiderman 

    I really like what Weid is doing, he is developing really well and we are going to be a better side with him in 15 games time than him spending another 15 games in the 2's. The other thing to think about here is who would you prefer, Frost or Weid? Because as long as Weid is in, you wont see Frost as TMac can go back (which he might do when Carslile goes forward for patches next week). So I think Weid stays in the side. 

    ANB 

    Things you all know, he is down on form, but he is covering serious ground for us and his pressure acts are always up the top echelon of the competition (22 today (28 top); 27 v Rich (top Demon); 32 v Hawks (Top D); 19 v North (3rd D);  14 v Bris (mid tier); 22 v Geel (4th D)). He gets to the contest and puts on pressure. Whilst he might not get the ball, he helps those around him. Is this enough? I dont know. My worry is that we don't have that many players with A+ aerobic capacity and Trac for ANB is not like for like. Maybe Spargo who does have a good tank can play that role? Salem looked better behind the ball and Brayshaw looked better in the guts. I just dont know if he gets dropped to be honest. 

    So assuming that everyone is fresh for next week, no change unless Trac is fit ready to go. Then good luck picking who goes out. 

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    Out: ANB

    In: Petracca

    seeing as we’ve had a quick turnaround it may be wise to rest some NQRs

    Potential out: Harmes, Vince

    Potential in: Garlett, Tim Smith 

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    I thought Weed played well and did his roll. 

    back up in the ruck , I would leave him in and let him build some confidence 

     

    Trac should be auto in and I think we will change 2 others

    it will be like 3 games in 12 days , we will need some fresh legs 

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    Wasn't as good a performance as last week, but i thought Weid did his bit and encouragingly, is starting to make a habit of taking some very nice contested marks.

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