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5 minutes ago, dl4e said:

I'd bring pederson in this week and then the weed for Esenscum with pedo being rested for that game.

There's merit in this argument. It seems to me that Pedersen seems to play well first up from a break, with gradually diminishing returns until he is once again dropped for a few weeks. In addition, in this particular scenario, with only a five day break between games, it's possible that a few of our more mature players may need to be rested for one of the two matches, although not necessarily just the second one. 

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    15 minutes ago, Clint Bizkit said:

    Lewis out injured.

     

     

    Out for one to two weeks with a broken hand suffered in the 2nd qtr on Sunday.  Probably, explains why he payed poorly after.

    I guess it means there will be no need to drop him to Casey...

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    27 minutes ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

    There's merit in this argument. It seems to me that Pedersen seems to play well first up from a break, with gradually diminishing returns until he is once again dropped for a few weeks. In addition, in this particular scenario, with only a five day break between games, it's possible that a few of our more mature players may need to be rested for one of the two matches, although not necessarily just the second one. 

    While tempted to drop half a dozen players, that rarely works. Agree with the thoughts above, Pedo seems to fade a little overtime, but often has a good game first up.

    Against Richmond, they have a small forward line and strong key position backs. So for me:

    In        Out         Why

    Hunt.   Frost.    Tigers only play one tall Riewoldt

    Lewis   Tyson.  Injured but should be dropped

    Pedo.   Harmes. Forward & ruck balance

    Wagner Stretch. Speed

    Lucky - Bugg

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    1 minute ago, D4Life said:

    While tempted to drop half a dozen players, that rarely works. Agree with the thoughts above, Pedo seems to fade a little overtime, but often has a good game first up.

    Against Richmond, they have a small forward line and strong key position backs. So for me:

    In        Out         Why

    Hunt.   Frost.    Tigers only play one tall Riewoldt

    Lewis   Tyson.  Injured but should be dropped

    Pedo.   Harmes. Forward & ruck balance

    Wagner Stretch. Speed

    Lucky - Bugg

    That was meant to be Stretch in for Wagner!

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    4 hours ago, nosoupforme said:

    After a bad loss and feeling gutted l can find atleast 12 changes that they should make. However after a few days down the track the changes are getting less and less.  

    Hunt, Tyson and Pedo are vital to this weeks side and beyond. I believe that J Lewis and Yes J Lever have to be on notice regardless of their reputation. Enough is enough bring in the inform players.

    Be interesting, more interesting than continued losses with our alleged best team, to put many players out on notice of form, replacing these with whoever is strong in the Casey team - just for one week. For the MFC fans, it would bring closer attention to the capabilities of the up-and-comers and may help confirm that a future is viable. It would cause another lapse and loss most probably, but in this current scenario, why not? Those left in the main team would need to play their best and lead the newbies on a mission impossible. Crazy losses, year by year, have left the fans grabbing at the straws of solutions to problems not fully tackled. This would be no different in that regard but it sends a message. 

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    Happened past Gosch's this AM. Caught the last 15 mins of training. Most senior players not there, it looked like a VFL training session.

    Players mostly doing interval work, but jogging. Slow run 100m, walk 100m, repeat. All timed.

    In two groups. Spargo, Tyson (I think it was Tyson), Stretch, Pedo, JKH, Smith in one group. Everyone else in another group. No "name" players except in first group, and Hunt in second group, and Hannan, who was wandering around by himself taking the occasional casual shot on goal.

    Smith has a strapped shoulder and held it every so often. Looked like he was trying to work out how sore it is/was.

    Hunt also with strapped shoulder. Is it injured? By jingo ... physique on him is extraordinary. Looks like Viv Richards.

     

     

    I believe the main group of senior players were doing rehab at the Alfred in the cardio vascular ward. Receiving heart transplants as the previous ones seemed to be shrivelled up and barely functioning. Experts baffled.

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    5 minutes ago, Mazer Rackham said:

    Happened past Gosch's this AM. Caught the last 15 mins of training. Most senior players not there, it looked like a VFL training session.

    Players mostly doing interval work, but jogging. Slow run 100m, walk 100m, repeat. All timed.

    In two groups. Spargo, Tyson (I think it was Tyson), Stretch, Pedo, JKH, Smith in one group. Everyone else in another group. No "name" players except in first group, and Hunt in second group, and Hannan, who was wandering around by himself taking the occasional casual shot on goal.

    Smith has a strapped shoulder and held it every so often. Looked like he was trying to work out how sore it is/was.

    Hunt also with strapped shoulder. Is it injured? By jingo ... physique on him is extraordinary. Looks like Viv Richards.

     

     

    I believe the main group of senior players were doing rehab at the Alfred in the cardio vascular ward. Receiving heart transplants as the previous ones seemed to be shrivelled up and barely functioning. Experts baffled.

    Sounds lacklustre training? However you did only catch the last 15 mins

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    51 minutes ago, D4Life said:

    While tempted to drop half a dozen players, that rarely works. Agree with the thoughts above, Pedo seems to fade a little overtime, but often has a good game first up.

    Against Richmond, they have a small forward line and strong key position backs. So for me:

    In        Out         Why

    Hunt.   Frost.    Tigers only play one tall Riewoldt

    Lewis   Tyson.  Injured but should be dropped

    Pedo.   Harmes. Forward & ruck balance

    Wagner Stretch. Speed

    Lucky - Bugg

    Same, same but Hannan for Bugg. Hannan capable of snagging 2 or more.

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    26 minutes ago, SFebey said:

    Sounds lacklustre training? However you did only catch the last 15 mins

    I think that must have been their warm down.

    But I was wondering why two groups? I was looking for hints as to who might be up for selection on AD. Maybe those six players (9, 12, 15, 21, 24, 44)? Does not compute.

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    In: Pederson, Hunt, Tyson, Hannan, Stretch

    Out: Lever, Harmes, Bugg, Lewis, Melksham

    Very, very lucky: Frost, Fritsch, Neal-Bullen, Wagner, Vince

    Safe (for now): Hogan, Jones, Salem, Petracca, Brayshaw, Gawn, Oliver, Hibberd, Kent (can't believe I'm saying that), McDonald, Garlett, Jetta.

    Not playing a CHF / backup ruck is just ridiculously dumb, particularly given the way we bomb the ball forward. We don't need 3 tall defenders against Richmond, and Lever is just slightly more woeful than Frost. Tyson is a given. The others are just shuffling deckchairs on the Titanic, but Bugg has Z-grade skills and I'm sick of Melksham's one handed marking attempts. I would have dropped Lewis before his injury was announced.

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    Just now, Mazer Rackham said:

    I think that must have been their warm down.

    But I was wondering why two groups? I was looking for hints as to who might be up for selection on AD. Maybe those six players (9, 12, 15, 21, 24, 44)? Does not compute.

    Thanks for reporting back, interesting week ahead and maybe some statements made.

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    7 minutes ago, poita said:

    In: Pederson, Hunt, Tyson, Hannan, Stretch

    Out: Lever, Harmes, Bugg, Lewis, Melksham

    Very, very lucky: Frost, Fritsch, Neal-Bullen, Wagner, Vince

    Safe (for now): Hogan, Jones, Salem, Petracca, Brayshaw, Gawn, Oliver, Hibberd, Kent (can't believe I'm saying that), McDonald, Garlett, Jetta.

    Not playing a CHF / backup ruck is just ridiculously dumb, particularly given the way we bomb the ball forward. We don't need 3 tall defenders against Richmond, and Lever is just slightly more woeful than Frost. Tyson is a given. The others are just shuffling deckchairs on the Titanic, but Bugg has Z-grade skills and I'm sick of Melksham's one handed marking attempts. I would have dropped Lewis before his injury was announced.

    I agree with all the ins but highly unlikely to make 5 changes. Lever won't be dropped. So Pedo misses out and Frost pinch hits in the ruck!

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    Hunt for Lewis maybe? Melksham must be on the chopping block, hasn't had one good game from memory, maybe bring in Hannan for him. Bugg had a great game against North but was back to the Bugg of old on Sunday, tough call as he finds a way to make opportunities, he's just a god awful shot for goal.

    Jetta rolled his ankle so do we take a chance on his fitness vs Richmond? We probably need him especially against the smaller forwards of the Tigers.

    Lever stays but boy that was a mare of a game on Sunday.

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    3 hours ago, leave it to deever said:

    Would send a statement.

    You Might need to retract that statement after finding out he broke his hand in the 2nd qtr

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    36 minutes ago, poita said:

    In: Pederson, Hunt, Tyson, Hannan, Stretch

    Out: Lever, Harmes, Bugg, Lewis, Melksham

    Very, very lucky: Frost, Fritsch, Neal-Bullen, Wagner, Vince

    Safe (for now): Hogan, Jones, Salem, Petracca, Brayshaw, Gawn, Oliver, Hibberd, Kent (can't believe I'm saying that), McDonald, Garlett, Jetta.

    Not playing a CHF / backup ruck is just ridiculously dumb, particularly given the way we bomb the ball forward. We don't need 3 tall defenders against Richmond, and Lever is just slightly more woeful than Frost. Tyson is a given. The others are just shuffling deckchairs on the Titanic, but Bugg has Z-grade skills and I'm sick of Melksham's one handed marking attempts. I would have dropped Lewis before his injury was announced.

    Lever won’t be dropped. 

    Gee we have some fickle supporters.

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    14 minutes ago, Demons11 said:

    Lever won’t be dropped. 

    Gee we have some fickle supporters.

    And, it will also be interesting to see what Goody does with Bugg this week.  On one hand, he 19 disposals, laid 6 tackles and had 4 shots on goal.  On the other hand, if you are a forward, your job is to kick goals when you get the opportunity, which he had multiple opportunities and failed.

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    7 minutes ago, The Chazz said:

    And, it will also be interesting to see what Goody does with Bugg this week.  On one hand, he 19 disposals, laid 6 tackles and had 4 shots on goal.  On the other hand, if you are a forward, your job is to kick goals when you get the opportunity, which he had multiple opportunities and failed.

    He had a great game against North and unfortunately along with a few others had an off day on the weekend.  

    Tough one but I’m thinking he and Melksham will be replaced by Hannan and Weed/Pedo. 

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    30 minutes ago, Demons11 said:

    You Might need to retract that statement after finding out he broke his hand in the 2nd qtr

    Not really

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    Just now, Demons11 said:

    He had a great game against North and unfortunately along with a few others had an off day on the weekend.  

    Tough one but I’m thinking he and Melksham will be replaced by Hannan and Weed/Pedo. 

    The biggest stat that would suggest he didn't have a good day was accuracy.  His other stats, I'd imagine, would be exactly what Goodwin is looking for in him.

    As I said, it'll be interesting to see what Goody rates higher, but I'm expecting that Bugg will play this week.

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