Stark differences between Saints and Demons as they try to emerge from bleakness

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2018/apr/09/saints-demons-afl-little-kilda-melbourne?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard

Odd that that is about the only article I've seen that mentions that we have TMac and Viney to return. 

Hogan is a brute of a forward who, unlike his contemporaries at St Kilda, can impose his will on a game. In 2012, Hogan was named the All-Australian under-18 centre half back, while he was not yet old enough to be eligible for the draft. Taken from the Latin for “portent” prodigy, for centuries, had been equated with monster, and that is what Hogan is fast becoming if he is not there already. His work rate has lifted (to the point you could argue that his best work now is done outside the 50 – he was credited with five inside 50s on Saturday) and the poor body language that plagued his early years has gone.

 

 

You have to love the Guardian articles ... they often read like those fantastic cricket summaries of the late Peter Roebuck. Where else would you find the following paragraph :

Karl Newell, a kinesiologist at Penn State, said: “Consciousness gets in the way. If a pianist starts worrying where his fingers go while he’s playing, it will change the performance.” You suspect the opposite is true with Salem and his hamstring. If he can start playing without concerns about having to grab for it, we may soon see him realise his potential.

Edited April 9, 20187 yr by Diamond_Jim

1 minute ago, Diamond_Jim said:

You have to love the Guardian articles ... they often read like those fantastic cricket summaries of the Peter Roebuck. Where else would you find the following paragraph :

Karl Newell, a kinesiologist at Penn State, said: “Consciousness gets in the way. If a pianist starts worrying where his fingers go while he’s playing, it will change the performance.” You suspect the opposite is true with Salem and his hamstring. If he can start playing without concerns about having to grab for it, we may soon see him realise his potential.

love it.

I've never accepted the hype around the latest St Kilda reincarnation. Compare our best four with theirs and it's daylight in between IMHO. Is someone able to inform me  . . . who is their Oliver, Trac, Jesse and Max? Is it possible I am missing something. Happy to have my reality readjusted. 

6 minutes ago, Queanbeyan Demon said:

I've never accepted the hype around the latest St Kilda reincarnation. Compare our best four with theirs and it's daylight in between IMHO. Is someone able to inform me  . . . who is their Oliver, Trac, Jesse and Max? Is it possible I am missing something. Happy to have my reality readjusted. 

Their great white hope is Jack BIllings.  And hes not a matchwinner by any stretch of the imagination.

They are in for years of pain.

3 hours ago, Diamond_Jim said:

You have to love the Guardian articles ... they often read like those fantastic cricket summaries of the late Peter Roebuck. Where else would you find the following paragraph :

Karl Newell, a kinesiologist at Penn State, said: “Consciousness gets in the way. If a pianist starts worrying where his fingers go while he’s playing, it will change the performance.” You suspect the opposite is true with Salem and his hamstring. If he can start playing without concerns about having to grab for it, we may soon see him realise his potential.

Dude, i literally had the same thought. Copypasta'd that exact line to my mate. Beautiful turn of phrase. Petracca is going to rip games apart and win finals off his boot. He's such a great combo of happy-go-lucky-cockiness. 

 

Edit: sp

Edited April 9, 20187 yr by AmDamDemon

1 minute ago, AmDamDemon said:

Dude, i literally had the same thought. Copypasta that exact line to my mate. Beautiful turn of phrase. Petracca is going to rip games apart and win finals off his boot. He's such a great combo of happy-go-lucky-cockiness. 

haven't been called a dude before ... but thank you .... perhaps there is hope for me yet

11 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

haven't been called a dude before ... but thank you .... perhaps there is hope for me yet

Sorry...ma'am (?)

For a moment they had progress from youth at the same time as getting sterling service from the veterans.

Their 2013 crop of Billings, Dunstan, Acres and Weller were reaching maturity and giving an impression of a wave of respectable footballers came through at the same time as their game-shaping champs in Riewoldt and Montanga were still doing well.

Unfortunately, just as the veterans were no longer available, the supply of good kids coming in thinned right out. It's been sparse, not outright dead but sparse, at the draft for St Kilda for the last few years. You have to feel for those 22-24 year olds in the team who now find they are shouldering the responsibility, instead of exploring their potential.

It is all too familiar, but a shudder going right through me when I think... it could be even worse for the Saints than it was for us. The simplest comparison would be Jack Steven to Nathan Jones. Steven is only a couple of years younger than Jones and he is now -entering- the worst of it while Jones is (touch wood) coming out of it.

Anyway, we appear to have assembled a serious team of serious footballers who believe in eachother and what they are doing. What's the opposite of a shudder?

52 minutes ago, Little Goffy said:

 What's the opposite of a shudder?

I want to say "a glimmer".

My Brother’s family are all mad Saints Supporters

God only knows why. 

Very quiet so far this year...

 

”winter’s coming”

Edited April 9, 20187 yr by Sir Why You Little

1 hour ago, Diamond_Jim said:

haven't been called a dude before ... but thank you .... perhaps there is hope for me yet

LoL, good one Bro.

Good yarn, love the positivity about us, when mostly we seem to be flying under the radar for the more mainstream media 

We won’t get any hype til we start winning games like the next three against hawks, premiers, and peptides

Some people will look silly here if they beat us when we play them.

4 hours ago, Queanbeyan Demon said:

I've never accepted the hype around the latest St Kilda reincarnation. Compare our best four with theirs and it's daylight in between IMHO. Is someone able to inform me  . . . who is their Oliver, Trac, Jesse and Max? Is it possible I am missing something. Happy to have my reality readjusted. 

McCartin is in their top 4 that's how woeful they are.

I’m so sick of being mentioned in the same sentence as them all the time. 

5 hours ago, Deestroy All said:

I’m so sick of being mentioned in the same sentence as them all the time. 

How great is it not being mentioned in the same terms as Richmond anymore! Glad we finally rid ourselves of that.

16 hours ago, bush demon said:

Stark differences between Saints and Demons as they try to emerge from bleakness

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2018/apr/09/saints-demons-afl-little-kilda-melbourne?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard

I dunno. There's not much substance to this article and it completely glosses over the fact that Gawn was injured most of last year and the rest of the list was plagued by injuries. That is the reason we failed to make finals last year.

So all I take from the article is the bleeding obvious - that there is a stark difference between St Kilda and Melbourne. No [censored].

Edited April 9, 20187 yr by A F

13 hours ago, AmDamDemon said:

Dude, i literally had the same thought. Copypasta'd that exact line to my mate. Beautiful turn of phrase. Petracca is going to rip games apart and win finals off his boot. He's such a great combo of happy-go-lucky-cockiness. 

 

Edit: sp

redditor confirmed

Where are StKilda at? Next time you bump into a Saints fan, whisper in his ear "Petracca, McCartin" and watch him start sobbing.

25 minutes ago, Tony Tea said:

Where are StKilda at? Next time you bump into a Saints fan, whisper in his ear "Petracca, McCartin" and watch him start sobbing.

Next time you bump into a Carlton fan, whisper in his ear "Oliver, Weitering" and watch him start sobbing.

 

50 minutes ago, Petraccattack said:

Next time you bump into a Carlton fan, whisper in his ear "Oliver, Weitering" and watch him start sobbing.

 

"Weideman, Curnow"

McCartin: "Drafted Riewoldt, got Koschitzke".

This thread is starting to feel like we drafted Schadenfreude.