There were more than 4 players on Bali for a given time, most left leaving the 4 behind to post more on Instagram, so the 'field' is not as narrow as some say

13 hours ago, Pennant St Dee said:

The complainant hasn't made a statement as per Vicpol release.

I like everybody else on Demonland is in the dark on a lot of the details.

The female involved may have not even reported it, I have seen it happen before when what is referred to as the early complainant makes the report.

IMO it's best for all involved to just let it run its course 

My understanding from all the various statements/press releases is:

MFC became aware of situation
MFC informed AFL integrity 
AFL integrity informed Vic Police
Vic Police interviewed female involved
Female involved has not made a statement/complaint

Question - can the AFL integrity inform the Vic Police without the complainant consent (is this even ethical)

* Note the situation could be damning and worth being hung, drawn and quartered over; embarrassing (aka the rugby league player incident where the female took on a group but said no to one); or a fabrication (intentional or not).  Due process and respect must run it's course otherwise in each of these situations the victim (it differs according to the scenario) suffers even more.  We should show respect and not judge until the Facts are known (if ever).

2 minutes ago, Ungarie boy said:

My understanding from all the various statements/press releases is:

MFC became aware of situation
MFC informed AFL integrity 
AFL integrity informed Vic Police
Vic Police interviewed female involved
Female involved has not made a statement/complaint

Question - can the AFL integrity inform the Vic Police without the complainant consent (is this even ethical)

* Note the situation could be damning and worth being hung, drawn and quartered over; embarrassing (aka the rugby league player incident where the female took on a group but said no to one); or a fabrication (intentional or not).  Due process and respect must run it's course otherwise in each of these situations the victim (it differs according to the scenario) suffers even more.  We should show respect and not judge until the Facts are known (if ever).

not sure your chronology is correct

i got the impression the female first approached vicpol in a non-formal way, which started the chain of events

of course, may be wrong in this 

31 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

so you want to play hypotheticals about "some truth",  "probable",  "in real trouble"?

life is not always neat, fair, or just in all situations to all concerned

let the process play out and don't torture yourself over something you know next to nothing about, and have no control over

this issue was (reportedly) raised nearly 3 months ago and as far as we know nothing has happened since

I'm not losing any sleep over this DC,  but if there was no substance to the allegation/s or as some would say "on the minor end of the scale", you would think we would of had either a statement from the club saying "nothing to see here move on" or an apology from the player involved. The longer this goes on lends itself to the thought that maybe something serious has occurred (obviously we all hope nothing has). As a paid up member of the club for many years I reserve the right to hypothesize on this matter with regards to a potential outcome the same as who I believe will be in our starting line up come round 1.

Edited December 24, 20177 yr by Bombay Airconditioning

Amazing 10 pages about something we know next to nothing about.

Amazing!

Edited December 24, 20177 yr by old dee

Apart from one poor article the only place I’ve heard anything more about this matter is here. 

Beyond me why posters would be asking for the player to apologise at this stage knowing what very little we know.

Edited December 24, 20177 yr by Ethan Tremblay

3 minutes ago, old dee said:

Amazing 10 pages about something we know next to nothing about.

Amazing!

How's it so different from any other thread on 'land?

Edited December 24, 20177 yr by Mazer Rackham

7 minutes ago, old dee said:

Amazing 10 pages about something we know next to nothing about.

Amazing!

If all the people that commented "I'm not going to comment until something more comes to light" didn't comment we'd be at about 4 pages.

14 hours ago, Pennant St Dee said:

The complainant hasn't made a statement as per Vicpol release.

I like everybody else on Demonland is in the dark on a lot of the details.

The female involved may have not even reported it, I have seen it happen before when what is referred to as the early complainant makes the report.

IMO it's best for all involved to just let it run its course 

Already one of my favourite posters. Even more respect now that I know what you do/did for a living.

You too, @Ethan Tremblay.

Much props.

I don't know how anyone can do that work for a living - I've had to read some reports of things here and there in my line of work and even reading about what these guys deal with makes me sick. Respect to anyone who can do it full time.

4 hours ago, Mazer Rackham said:

How's it so different from any other thread on 'land?

It's not     its Xmas Eve, just finished work   checked in to see if this stll has legs   of course

18 hours ago, Dante said:

JHC, if he’s innocent he doesn’t have to do anything, you have to be proven guilty, not prove your innocence. Where do you get your knowledge of the law from?

Unless there is a reversed onus of proof......just sayin’

3 hours ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

I don't know how anyone can do that work for a living - I've had to read some reports of things here and there in my line of work and even reading about what these guys deal with makes me sick. Respect to anyone who can do it full time.

My wife works in the same area but with children. I often hear some of the appalling stories.

6 hours ago, A F said:

Already one of my favourite posters. Even more respect now that I know what you do/did for a living.

You too, @Ethan Tremblay.

Much props.

Cheers AF (Great initials by the way)

21 and a half years now

6 hours ago, old dee said:

Amazing 10 pages about something we know next to nothing about.

Amazing!

You must be new here.

16 minutes ago, Nasher said:

You must be new here.

Sadly no Nasher. 

9 hours ago, old dee said:

Amazing 10 pages about something we know next to nothing about.

Amazing!

You could possibly add a few more pages if the train stayed on the tracks.

Don't know if the victim hasn't laid a complaint - perhaps there is more too it - maybe a little grey rather than b/W.

52 minutes ago, machine11 said:

Don't know if the victim hasn't laid a complaint - perhaps there is more too it - maybe a little grey rather than b/W.

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We are not the Judge,Jury and Executioner as we wern't present during the incident.Remember when a 14 yr old called goodes an ape,it was funny how Lisa Wilkins partner Fitzsimmons got in on the act and told everyone it was un-Australian etc.Yet fitzy referred to a dark skin bouncer as a guerilla. To top it off fitzy tried to palm it off as a non racist remark. Personally some us are too sensitive for our own good,you see apes and guerillas getting upset  we refer them to homo sapiens!!!!!!

4 hours ago, ENYAW said:

We are not the Judge,Jury and Executioner as we wern't present during the incident.Remember when a 14 yr old called goodes an ape,it was funny how Lisa Wilkins partner Fitzsimmons got in on the act and told everyone it was un-Australian etc.Yet fitzy referred to a dark skin bouncer as a guerilla. To top it off fitzy tried to palm it off as a non racist remark. Personally some us are too sensitive for our own good,you see apes and guerillas getting upset  we refer them to homo sapiens!!!!!!

Wonderfully coherent, reasonable and relevant as always, ENYAW.

No ads for Bush lawyers please we are overrun with them.

Amazing you can read 10 pages and only read half a dozen posts. They all say the same thing.

On 24/12/2017 at 1:43 PM, Bombay Airconditioning said:

If all the people that commented "I'm not going to comment until something more comes to light" didn't comment we'd be at about 4 pages.

We are not commenting but speculating on possible list changes 

I am not going to make any comment on this whatsoever, Just a "No Comment" will be the only comment I make! 

Gee I'm glad I trusted my instincts over this one 

 

4 minutes ago, picket fence said:

I am not going to make any comment on this whatsoever, Just a "No Comment" will be the only comment I make! 

Gee I'm glad I trusted my instincts over this one 

 

Would that be your carnal instincts picket?