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2017 Player Reviews: # 26 Sam Weideman

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23 minutes ago, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

He played no football in his under 18 year and is physically under developed for a KPF.  I'm of the belief that rather than not reading the ball in flight, he is moved of it too easily by mature defenders.  Needs time in the gym; another 10kg and a stronger core will help him a lot.

Realistically, he shouldn't have played the early rounds this year- especially with Hogan out- hes a kid, and played like it.  Will be hoping for him to feature in the second halo of 2018, if not, then it's the time to get concerned.

I'm confused, he was picked based on his form as a 16 or 17 year old? Or a from a few games early on in his last junior year?

 
34 minutes ago, Deeprived Childhood said:

 

 

I'm confused, he was picked based on his form as a 16 or 17 year old? Or a from a few games early on in his last junior year?

Missed five months of football, including the carnival with an ancle injury.  He was a very highly regarded junior with a significant injury in his draft year - much like Jake Lever and Jake Stringer.

 

http://m.afl.com.au/news/2015-11-23/1-day-to-the-draft-meet-imposing-key-forward-and-grandson-of-pies-legend-sam-weideman

I actually don't mind what I've seen, considering he's a young KPF. I've seen him execute some nice handballs in close, getting a few goal assists. I'm not expecting to see a lot from him for another 2 years, then we might start to see his potential. 

 
4 minutes ago, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

Missed five months of football, including the carnival with an ancle injury.  He was a very highly regarded junior with a significant injury in his draft year - much like Jake Lever and Jake Stringer.

 

http://m.afl.com.au/news/2015-11-23/1-day-to-the-draft-meet-imposing-key-forward-and-grandson-of-pies-legend-sam-weideman

Oh ok, getting into semantics, but he did play some games at the beginning of the year and that's where we saw his potential. 5 games it appears. Pretty small sample size. I hope we'd been tracking him the year before too, not that that would be the greatest evidence.

3 minutes ago, Deeprived Childhood said:

Oh ok, getting into semantics, but he did play some games at the beginning of the year and that's where we saw his potential. 5 games it appears. Pretty small sample size. I hope we'd been tracking him the year before too, not that that would be the greatest evidence.

I would think that recruiters are tracking players for years coming into their U18 year.  It is fraught with danger drafting a highly rated junior who has missed most of the U18 year.  I remember that the end of 2008 people were beside themselves talking up the 1,2 and 3 of the next draft Scully, Lucas and Butcher.  Things can change quickly with these kids.


6 minutes ago, Males said:

I actually don't mind what I've seen, considering he's a young KPF. I've seen him execute some nice handballs in close, getting a few goal assists. I'm not expecting to see a lot from him for another 2 years, then we might start to see his potential. 

I'm the same, we weren't desperate for him last year as we had others to step in. He's being given time to develop at VFL and from what I saw of him in 2017 I feel like he's got the right attributes it's just about getting it to click and get him into the gym to get some weight. 

That said 2018 definitely shapes as an important year for him, especially if a certain former no 1 draft pick is not with us. 

12 hours ago, old dee said:

One swallow does not make a summer.

Blease kicked five once at AFL level.

Yes, but a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush. 

One Keilty might be worth $750000 in the bush !

 
6 hours ago, ignition. said:

Yes, but a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush. 

I would rather have an FA18 than a Cessna but we could go on like this forever.

This time next year will tell the story.

20 hours ago, old dee said:

In the games I saw when he was playing at Casey and AFL level he has next to no presence on the ground.

As you say the game seems to go on around him. Even at Casey he had little impact on the results.

Dud spud.


I saw him kick 6 against Box Hill. He's got the goods. He ain't no spud. 

Remember how Demonland bayed at Hunt for years. He was called worse than a spud: a brussel sprout even....

38 minutes ago, dieter said:

I saw him kick 6 against Box Hill. He's got the goods. He ain't no spud. 

Remember how Demonland bayed at Hunt for years. He was called worse than a spud: a brussel sprout even....

People refuse to recognise this and it’s quite frustrating.

They also fail to recognise his injury history and how underdeveloped he was coming into the system.

And again they fail to recognise that at VFL level, where ovals are smaller, congestion is more apparent, conditions are more difficult and delivery is much much worse, some days you’re going to have little scoreboard impact or marking opportunities.

Nuffies have come out in their droves on this thread and just generally have nfi what they’re talking about.

Sam will be absolutely fine as soon as he is given a good run at it. Which will be next year imo.  

46 minutes ago, stevethemanjordan said:

People refuse to recognise this and it’s quite frustrating.

They also fail to recognise his injury history and how underdeveloped he was coming into the system.

And again they fail to recognise that at VFL level, where ovals are smaller, congestion is more apparent, conditions are more difficult and delivery is much much worse, some days you’re going to have little scoreboard impact or marking opportunities.

Nuffies have come out in their droves on this thread and just generally have nfi what they’re talking about.

Sam will be absolutely fine as soon as he is given a good run at it. Which will be next year imo.  

Perfect STMJ was going to put something similar but you've nailed it

He is 4kg off the playing weight they want him at eventually 

I was wrong with Hunt - but I barely saw the kid. I hope my gut instinct is wrong here.

3 hours ago, rpfc said:

I was wrong with Hunt - but I barely saw the kid. I hope my gut instinct is wrong here.

You are not alone!


52 minutes ago, old dee said:

You are not alone!

it's just hard to trust anything with a Collingwood connection :rolleyes:

I would persist with the weed. I think he can play but am cautious. See where he stands at the end of 2 years more.

Agree. A summer of gym and an angry tablet. Not unlike Wattsy. 

Big talent.  Always excelled at all junior levels. Not the most dynamic trainer.  Great skills.  

 

3 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Agree. A summer of gym and an angry tablet. Not unlike Wattsy. 

Big talent.  Always excelled at all junior levels. Not the most dynamic trainer.  Great skills.  

 

possibly a candidate for the Driest Wit award  2017 !!

Considering where Watts is going...lets just expedite things eh ??

Weed...to Collingwood....<<<<<< packet of crisps..and a bottle of Grange ( I mean Watt the hell !! )


Could be worse, he could be Lucas Cook!

At least weed has played some footy and looks like he has some talent to do something in future seasons.

I'm happy to reserve judgement until the end of 2018.

Bumping a thread a bit here but could the FD trading Watts be a sign that they have faith in Sam making the step up next year? Perhaps they felt that with Sam getting into a point in his career where he should be making an impact that there wasn’t enough room for Hogan, Weiderman, and Watts. Add in that Pederson had an excellent year and Tommy Mac showed some very good attributes as a forward. 

If so it’s a real roll of the dice that Sam takes that step up next year. 

Looks like a lead up fwd rather than a pack marker and given our poor delivery into the fwd line its no surprise that he struggled in 2017.

Needs to show some signs in 2018:  signs of smarts, aggression, intensity, refusal to get beaten etc If he shows those then he gets more time to develop. Something to hang your hat on. Hasn't really shown any traits to hang your hat on at this stage. 

 
On 05/10/2017 at 6:33 PM, hoopla said:

First time I've posted in a long time.

We have shown great faith in Sam ever since we grabbed him in the draft. He was supposed to slot in beside Jessie as an attacking key to a succession of premierships.

Sadly I'm afraid that he has shown us absolutely nothing. He might have played 2 good quarters with Casey in 2 years. Hulett who has been delisted was certainly no worse

He doesn't get the ball and he has no onfield presence.

On present indications- he's on his way to the flop club to join Lucas Cook and Luke Molan.

I'd love to be proved wrong - but for all it's brilliant recruiting efforts over recent years - the FD is still prone to serious errors!

Will be a gun. Time !

Happy to give him some more time, but early signs havent exactly wowed me.

 

Def needs to work on his strength. Pushed off the ball too easily.


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