Lumumba documentary

[Roger Mellie 4,103]

Nathan Buckley confrontation was the final straw at Collingwood for Heritier Lumumba

Interesting insightful article

 

[chook fowler 19,551]

The Prince loves a bit of attention.

[Lucifers Hero 40,363]

He left a sour taste at Collingwood and the same at the Dees.  I was a fan but really didn't like how he messed us around for 6 months and left us a player short on our list this year.

I wonder what criticisms are in store for us and our doctors in his doco?

I won't be watching.     

 

[beelzebub 23,383]

6 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

He left a sour taste at Collingwood and the same at the Dees.  I was a fan but really didn't like how he messed us around for 6 months and left us a player short on our list this year.

I wonder what criticisms are in store for us and our doctors in his doco?

I won't be watching.     

 

Well said sir.

Harry who ?? 

[Little Goffy 14,639]

Well, I didn't realise he was given the nickname 'Chimp' at Collingwood. Say what you like about Lumumba being a bit pretentious and precious, but that is f'n awful.

I mean this is pretty basic stuff, not complicated. Even Collingwood people should be able to get that far.

[Wrecker45 3,378]

I've had all sorts of nicknames I didn't like. You cop them and move on. Stormy Charles was a shocker but you move on and let the players move on.

[Vandenberger With The Lot 238]

42 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

He left a sour taste at Collingwood and the same at the Dees.  I was a fan but really didn't like how he messed us around for 6 months and left us a player short on our list this year.

I wonder what criticisms are in store for us and our doctors in his doco?

I won't be watching.     

 

Doco doesnt cover his time at Melbourne, but from the article, seems his main gripe at the Dees is that we had no indigenous people on staff. Not sure if this has changed since he left?

 

21 minutes ago, Wrecker45 said:

I've had all sorts of nicknames I didn't like. You cop them and move on. Stormy Charles was a shocker but you move on and let the players move on.

As have I, but chimp is pretty unacceptable.

Edited August 19, 2017 by Vandenberger With The Lot

[BAMF 4,385]

What a [censored].

[Sir Why You Little 37,130]

"Excuse me Eddie, Was Lumumba known as Chimp, whilst playing at the Filth?"

Outrageous!!

[beelzebub 23,383]

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[Wrecker45 3,378]

27 minutes ago, Vandenberger With The Lot said:

Doco doesnt cover his time at Melbourne, but from the article, seems his main gripe at the Dees is that we had no indigenous people on staff. Not sure if this has changed since he left?

 

As have I, but chimp is pretty unacceptable.

Chimp is unaccetable but so have some of mine.  I don't condone racism but I also think it gets highlighted in a politically correct world.

[Biffen 12,947]

Harry was just against all that corporate uniformity and the destructive negativity .

He was Ok doing the Pepsi commercial but after he pocketed the cash from that he began to think of himself as a champion of the downtrodden .

 live long enough and life will make hypocrites of us all.

Harry achieved his hypocrisy quickly.

The world has become full of those who would like to demonise others in an effort to display their spiritual purity.

How they embarrass themselves so.

[Demon trucker 1,800]

35 minutes ago, Wrecker45 said:

I've had all sorts of nicknames I didn't like. You cop them and move on. Stormy Charles was a shocker but you move on and let the players move on.

When a nickname became racist that just too far. They called me wog a guess that's fine by you. Maybe you should be ban for your racist view, just disgraceful, when I said same thing  homophobic I was banned for a month.

 

32 minutes ago, Vandenberger With The Lot said:

Doco doesnt cover his time at Melbourne, but from the article, seems his main gripe at the Dees is that we had no indigenous people on staff. Not sure if this has changed since he left?

 

As have I, but chimp is pretty unacceptable.

 Whelan the wrecker is on the staff

[beelzebub 23,383]

He thought, therefore he was. He should have thought again 

[Vandenberger With The Lot 238]

5 minutes ago, Wrecker45 said:

Chimp is unaccetable but so have some of mine.  I don't condone racism but I also think it gets highlighted in a politically correct world.

You are right of course as to how these things get blown up.

I guess this is always a weird one, because since the dawn of time giving insulting and hurtful nicknames has been a part of the footy club mateship and culture, but at the AFL level the clubs are also a workplace, so if someone starts making noise you have to stomp it.

Edited August 19, 2017 by Vandenberger With The Lot

[Demon trucker 1,800]

2 minutes ago, Biffen said:

Harry was just against all that corporate uniformity and the destructive negativity .

He was Ok doing the Pepsi commercial but after he pocketed the cash from that he began to think of himself as a champion of the downtrodden .

 live long enough and life will make hypocrites of us all.

Harry achieved his hypocrisy quickly.

The world has become full of those who would like to demonise others in an effort to display their spiritual purity.

How they embarrass themselves so.

 we are all hypocrites in one way or the other no one's different, we're only human,  as Jesus said don't worry  about the speck in your brother's eye when you've got a planking  in your own.

[Wrecker45 3,378]

3 minutes ago, don't make me angry said:

When a nickname became racist that just too far. They called me wog a guess that's fine by you. Maybe you should be ban for your racist view, just disgraceful, when I said same thing  homophobic I was banned for a month.

 

 Whelan the wrecker is on the staff

I don't agree with the nickname and don't condone racismt. I believe everyone has something offensive that could be said to them

i treat all people equally. Do you think skin colour can entitle people to offence?

[Wrecker45 3,378]

16 minutes ago, Vandenberger With The Lot said:

You are right of course as to how these things get blown up.

I guess this is always a weird one, because since the dawn of time giving insulting and hurtful nicknames has been a part of the footy club mateship and culture, but at the AFL level the clubs are also a workplace, so if someone starts making noise you have to stomp it.

Some sense in this thread.

At my high school their was a kid with an oversized head and we called him "moon head", there was another kid who hadn't reached puberty at the same ages as most and we called him "small"

Racism is abhorrent but just a small part of bullying. It is politically correct to call it a driver but in reality it is at the fringe.

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest]

The Prince is a conundrum. Much of what he says carries weight (I tend to agree with his overall points on the 'Les' nickname and being annoyed at Eddie re: Goodes) but a lot of his act can be overblown (taking extended time off to mourn the death of Muhammad Ali) or baffling (claiming we were trying to limit the number of games he played so as not to trigger an extra year on his contract but also exposing him to harm re: his concussion).

The nickname 'Chimp' was absolutely apalling if true and it doesn't matter if it were for a week or ten years. Those who are trying to draw equivalence between how their mates in school got called rangas and this might want to look at the historical legacy as to why people of color were compared to monkeys.

I found Adam Goodes' exit from AFL absolutely heartbreaking. I could never, and will never, work out why so many viewed him as a 'despicable [censored]'. 

While I concur with some of Herry L's social views, I can understand why he gives people the shits.

Edited August 19, 2017 by Colin B. Flaubert
Wanted to add one more point.

[Biffen 12,947]

The only sensible thing to do is start pulling  down statues.

I can see no other remedy but to erase human history and begin again afresh.

That way we can all live in the belief that we are good and " right".

We can use violence against those we even suspect might "hate".Violence is justified against "haters".

Are you all with me??

Lets go find the haters and stop them now!!

Chaaaaargggge!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"let's get 'em"!!!!

 

 

 

[daisycutter 29,738]

6 minutes ago, Biffen said:

The only sensible thing to do is start pulling  down statues.

I can see no other remedy but to erase human history and begin again afresh.

That way we can all live in the belief that we are good and " right".

We can use violence against those we even suspect might "hate".Violence is justified against "haters".

Are you all with me??

Lets go find the haters and stop them now!!

Chaaaaargggge!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"let's get 'em"!!!!

 

 

 

we could start with warnie's statue tomorrow at the g. biff

but if the haters go for ronnie's statue then deserve all the violence they will get

[Moonshadow 17,677]

12 minutes ago, Biffen said:

The only sensible thing to do is start pulling  down statues.

I can see no other remedy but to erase human history and begin again afresh.

That way we can all live in the belief that we are good and " right".

We can use violence against those we even suspect might "hate".Violence is justified against "haters".

Are you all with me??

Lets go find the haters and stop them now!!

Chaaaaargggge!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"let's get 'em"!!!!

 

 

 

Thanks The Donald

[Biffen 12,947]

1 minute ago, daisycutter said:

we could start with warnie's statue tomorrow at the g. biff

but if the haters go for ronnie's statue then deserve all the violence they will get

Wouldn't mind that statue of Adam Lindsay Gordon in my garden actually.

i might call the animal lib movement and have them remove it for me .

He was a steeplechase rider so he doesn't deserve to be recognised near the Parliament.

We can all agree on that I'm sure.

Warnie is off limits though- i'm standing vigil by that one.

[jnrmac 20,186]

1 hour ago, Vandenberger With The Lot said:

Doco doesnt cover his time at Melbourne, but from the article, seems his main gripe at the Dees is that we had no indigenous people on staff. Not sure if this has changed since he left?

Why would that be an issue?

He wasn't indigenous. He was Brazilian. Is he some advocate for 'affirmative' action hiring policies? 

 

 

[daisycutter 29,738]

2 minutes ago, Biffen said:

 

Warnie is off limits though- i'm standing vigil by that one.

side by side?