Demonland 74,457 Posted June 30, 2017 Posted June 30, 2017 http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-06-30/demons-get-creative-and-get-some-stars Give this guy a LIKE. Some of Jason Taylor's greatest hits Jayden Hunt (2013, fourth round, No.57 overall) Alex Neal-Bullen (2014, second round, No.40 overall) Billy Stretch (2014, third round, No.42 overall) Oscar McDonald (2014, third round, No.53 overall) James Harmes (2014 rookie draft, No.2 overall) Aaron vandenBerg (2015 rookie draft, No.2 overall) Mitch White (2015 rookie draft, No.20 overall) Mitch Hannan (2016, third round, No.46 overall) Josh Wagner (2016 rookie draft, No.6 overall) Joel Smith (2016 rookie draft, three-year non-registered selection) Tim Smith (2017 rookie draft, No.25 overall)
beelzebub 23,392 Posted June 30, 2017 Posted June 30, 2017 Taylor ( and crew ) have done very well indeed. Its as a result of their abilities im more than happy to trade early picks to recycle or reinvigorate ( older ) players as Jason seems more than accidentally able to find gems and smokies that suit US !! A hearty thankyou Sir(s)
Lucifers Hero 40,744 Posted June 30, 2017 Posted June 30, 2017 Taylor gets heaps of 'Likes'! He is the mastermind of our current list! Not sure about the author of the article as it looks like a cut and paste of past Taylor interviews and he may well have got the idea and most of the data from our own @Stevienic23 who listed our most recent team and where they were taken in the drafts in this post:
Maldonboy38 6,436 Posted June 30, 2017 Posted June 30, 2017 It is a very good list, but I reckon it is our development that has made the difference more than individuals we have drafted. If that list was even slightly different I firmly now believe we would still be in a good position because our development model and personnel are top notch. Having said that, the recruiting of players like Hunt, Hannan and Joel Smith has been daring, different and very smart.
Red and Blue realist 2,063 Posted June 30, 2017 Posted June 30, 2017 He's done a great job, I wonder how many other clubs will now be looking to only use their 1st round pick, then try and fill gaps sending their second rounder on? They have done seriously well with those later picks, but as M38 said, I think credit also needs to go to the development team, there was an article about Rob Jackson in the HS today, detailing the program they put in place for some of those later picks. This touches on not only the strength/weight stuff they do but also ensuring there not overloaded to retain running endurance. It's a good read - http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/melbourne/strength-and-conditioning-coach-rob-jackson-has-helped-transform-the-demons/news-story/f5baa806b3494026410636dd56033611 (sorry about the paywall).
rpfc 29,030 Posted June 30, 2017 Posted June 30, 2017 I am a hardline - 'you have got to get the big decisions right' - person and those are ND9 in 2013, ND2 and 3 in 2014 and ND4 and 9 in 2015. Those decisions have to bring you solid 200 game players and one or two stars of the game. They just have to. Salem, Petracca, Brayshaw, Oliver, and Weideman is what we got with those top 10 picks. Two look like being stars of the game. One looks like being a solid 200 gamer, one will be if he can regain health, and one still has a question mark but is developing normally for a KPF. That is a success relative to other clubs. That is a ridiculous haul of awesomeness compared to previous investments by the MFC. Note: You can argue that the club turned ND2 in 2013 into Tyson and two upgraded picks that got Salem and Hunt but that was a club decision, not Taylor's drafting leadership decision.
Wrecker45 3,381 Posted June 30, 2017 Posted June 30, 2017 I'd be interested who he was instrumental in drafting as 2IC at Collingwood.
Satyriconhome 10,880 Posted June 30, 2017 Posted June 30, 2017 Taylor is helped by the development and fitness regime we have in place as well 2 other wins may be Mitch King and Corey Maynard
Little Goffy 14,971 Posted June 30, 2017 Posted June 30, 2017 The 'is it drafting or is it development' debate is much more fun when we're debating why it seems to have worked. One might almost suspect that in a good system at a good club, each supports the other. "We need players like this... hmm... how do you reckon you'd go developing this kid, and tell me, do you think this talented puppy-fat midfielder could be transformed into a full-game player?"
chook fowler 19,778 Posted June 30, 2017 Posted June 30, 2017 When I first saw the title I thought it was referring to Brian Taylor - would've been the shortest list in history
dino rover 714 Posted June 30, 2017 Posted June 30, 2017 Is brett williams in the recruiting team? I may know him. Hampton local and note the Hampton connection to brayshaw dawes salem
FlashInThePan 1,893 Posted June 30, 2017 Posted June 30, 2017 4 hours ago, Maldonboy38 said: It is a very good list, but I reckon it is our development that has made the difference more than individuals we have drafted. If that list was even slightly different I firmly now believe we would still be in a good position because our development model and personnel are top notch. Having said that, the recruiting of players like Hunt, Hannan and Joel Smith has been daring, different and very smart. Agreed, it is really a perfect storm that is driving the improvement. Jason, Todd and the recruiting team, Brendan Macartney's development work in no small measure, Roosy & finally Goody as well as the coaching team around them. Everyone deserves a lick of the ice cream if we can turn this momentum into something special.
praha 11,267 Posted June 30, 2017 Posted June 30, 2017 Guys like Hunt, ANB, Harmes would have struggled at the club between 2008 and 2013. Coaching personalle and development can't be understated. It's so much more than drafting talent. They were all very raw, hence the deep draft position.
nutbean 8,838 Posted June 30, 2017 Posted June 30, 2017 4 hours ago, Maldonboy38 said: It is a very good list, but I reckon it is our development that has made the difference more than individuals we have drafted. If that list was even slightly different I firmly now believe we would still be in a good position because our development model and personnel are top notch. Having said that, the recruiting of players like Hunt, Hannan and Joel Smith has been daring, different and very smart. I have been a huge believer that our development of players and the club in general was so poor in the past that many players we drafted who would have probably made it in the current environment failed miserably. It took a footballer of extraordinary determination like Jones to make it in the cesspool that was our club. "Your are a top draft pick - go and play football" is not the way to develop players. To me Roo's greatest legacy is the teaching and developing culture he installed in the club - teachers the likes of McCarthy being onboard cannot be emphasised enough as key to our current upward trend. Having said that, we have certainly opted towards "competitive beasts" in our drafting of late and that has paid dividends.
Ted Lasso 19,586 Posted June 30, 2017 Posted June 30, 2017 I always really liked the Tyson-Salem for 2 trade I still think we clearly won that trade
Stevienic23 1,185 Posted June 30, 2017 Posted June 30, 2017 6 hours ago, Lucifer's Hero said: Taylor gets heaps of 'Likes'! He is the mastermind of our current list! Not sure about the author of the article as it looks like a cut and paste of past Taylor interviews and he may well have got the idea and most of the data from our own @Stevienic23 who listed our most recent team and where they were taken in the drafts in this post: Haha. Can confirm that I'm not Marc McGowan however he can expect a letter from my solicitor
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