12 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Wow congrats skip! Hopefully we get a win for you now!

Congrats goody. If you think about kt not many senior coaches get elevated to Hall of Fame status.

I had thought that ex-players couldn't be inducted into the Hall of Fame while they were still involved in the game as coaches. Obviously I am wrong. Well done, Simon Goodwin.

 

Congrats Goody  

11 hours ago, At the break of Gawn said:

Well deserved by Goodwin.

Can't help but ask, what does David Neitz have to do when guys like Barry Hall and Anthony Stevens are getting inducted?

Melbourne has around 13 or 14 players in the HOF already. I would say that's what's keeping out Neitz and Lyon etc...

Congratulations to Simon, but the HOF is becoming more farcical every year.

Got to have a SA player to keep them happy, got to have a WA player to keep them happy, got to to have a player from the northern states to keep them happy. The 10 Victorian teams get to share the remaining 3 players from 120 years of AFL / VFL football. 

I'd be interested to see a comparison of how many players have been selected from each of the great teams / eras, eg Melbourne 50s/60s, vs the Adelaide, Brisbane, West Coast & Sydney teams from the past 20 years. I'd imagine we are seriously underrepresented on that basis.

Barry Hall is probably the least deserving person ever to be in the HOF, and presumably Anthony Stevens gets in because he is seen as a good bloke. I'd have both Neitz and Lyon well ahead of both, and I don't rate Neitz as highly as most around here.

 

8 minutes ago, poita said:

Congratulations to Simon, but the HOF is becoming more farcical every year.

Got to have a SA player to keep them happy, got to have a WA player to keep them happy, got to to have a player from the northern states to keep them happy. The 10 Victorian teams get to share the remaining 3 players from 120 years of AFL / VFL football. 

I'd be interested to see a comparison of how many players have been selected from each of the great teams / eras, eg Melbourne 50s/60s, vs the Adelaide, Brisbane, West Coast & Sydney teams from the past 20 years. I'd imagine we are seriously underrepresented on that basis.

Barry Hall is probably the least deserving person ever to be in the HOF, and presumably Anthony Stevens gets in because he is seen as a good bloke. I'd have both Neitz and Lyon well ahead of both, and I don't rate Neitz as highly as most around here.

 

I suspect being a Premiership player carries substantial weight and helps players like Stevens and Hall get inducted ahead of players like Neitz. If my suspicions are correct, there's a problem with the selection criteria. It's not the fault of players like Skilton, Flower, G Ablett Sr, Robert Harvey and many others that they were not Premiership players.

By the way, I have no problem with either Stevens or Hall being inducted but I'm not sure either should be ahead of Neitz.

I have so much faith in Goodwin it's not funny

7 minutes ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

I suspect being a Premiership player carries substantial weight and helps players like Stevens and Hall get inducted ahead of players like Neitz. If my suspicions are correct, there's a problem with the selection criteria. It's not the fault of players like Skilton, Flower, G Ablett Sr, Robert Harvey and many others that they were not Premiership players.

By the way, I have no problem with either Stevens or Hall being inducted but I'm not sure either should be ahead of Neitz.

Spot on.  Drives me mad when people claim that someone must be a gun because they were "a premiership player".  Greg Madigan was a premiership player, Robbie Flower wasn't.  I know who I'd rather have in my team!  

Hall was an excellent player but I'm surprised he's in ahead of Neitz, who was an All-Australian in two different positions.  And I still reckon Garry Lyon is the best Melbourne player I've seen behind Flower, so no idea why he's not in there.

Neil Craig on Simon Goodwin. 

This is an excellent article. Explains why it's so hard for older players to be selected over the more recently retired. Of course Lyon and Neitz should be in the Hall of Fame. But how Brent Crosswell and Nicky Winmar are not is completely beyond comprehension.

15 minutes ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

This is an excellent article. Explains why it's so hard for older players to be selected over the more recently retired. Of course Lyon and Neitz should be in the Hall of Fame. But how Brent Crosswell and Nicky Winmar are not is completely beyond comprehension.

The usual amatuer criteria. 

The fact Barry Hall was inducted must have left Goose McGuire and Brent Staker overflowing with pride and joy. 

What a farce...

(no offence to Blighty or Simon Goodwin)

23 minutes ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

This is an excellent article. Explains why it's so hard for older players to be selected over the more recently retired. Of course Lyon and Neitz should be in the Hall of Fame. But how Brent Crosswell and Nicky Winmar are not is completely beyond comprehension.

hard to fathom winmar and crosswell don't make it. both champions

Very impressed at the calibre of the man.  Clearly a strong character who is held in high regard, and for good reason.  Very pleased he was inducted into the HOF, and even more pleased he is our Coach.  The lads are in VERY good hands!

Well done, Simon, and well deserved!

 

Loved the speech Goodwin gave last night. He's humble, assertive and determined. I have high hopes for Demon players under his guidance.

5 minutes ago, dieter said:

Loved the speech Goodwin gave last night. He's humble, assertive and determined. I have high hopes for Demon players under his guidance.

Hall of Fame acceptance speech??

I know you made a mistake in the title dieter, but the way the Dees are tracking maybe Goody will be the All Australian coach.

6 minutes ago, Devil is in the Detail said:

Hall of Fame acceptance speech??

Goodwin inducted into Hall of Fame

 

SIMON Goodwin’s football CV is magnificent.

A hard running and creative wingman, who played in two premiership sides for Adelaide and a couple more sides that should have. Three best and fairests and five All-Australian selections help complete what was a marvellous career.

Yet what drove Goodwin throughout his 14 seasons at AFL level was this nagging self-doubt. Was he really good enough to play at the level?

As he explained to the AFL Record ahead of his induction into the Australian Football Hall of Fame, he was small for his age throughout his childhood. He was forever being placed into what he called the ‘never going to make it basket’.


Hall of Fame inductee Simon Goodwin with AFL Chairman Richard Goyder. (Photo: Michael Willson/AFL Media)

“I wasn’t self-conscious and perhaps I lacked self-confidence, but with that came perseverance to prove people wrong and that’s what drove me early in my career,” he said.

“I wasn’t sure I was deserving to be at the level and I always had a point to prove. And it continued along that way for most of my career.”

Not even two flags before his 21st birthday could eradicate the self-doubts, nor could his first All-Australian selection in 2000.

“Perception-wise it probably did, but I used it to spur me on to even greater heights,” he said.

“You want to be a better player and then a better player again. When I got into my first All-Australian side, it was a case of ‘Simon who’ and that was another point to prove.

“I was a shock selection and people said I didn’t deserve to be in that category, so there was this sense of wanting to prove myself, all through my career.”

Cricket’s loss was football’s gain with Goodwin. He co-captained the South Australian under-19 cricket team in the summer of 1995-96 (sharing the role with Chris Davies, now Port Adelaide’s head of football) and was preparing to make the summer game his sport of choice after being overlooked at the 1995 National Draft.

But the Crows came calling during the Pre-Season Draft and Goodwin recalls the blunt advice from Adelaide football manager and close family friend John Reid: “Give footy a crack because your cricket career is pretty much done, son.”

Within 12 months, Malcolm Blight was coach and Goodwin started to blossom. It was a magical time.

“‘Blighty’ came in and made a few changes, got rid of some older guys which gave the opportunity for some younger players to come in,” he said.

“He gave the younger boys the belief to contribute to the footy club and it kick-started my belief that the opportunity might be there.”

Goodwin has huge respect for Blight, who along with Reid and another former Crows coach Neil Craig he cites as the strongest influences on his playing career.

“The opportunity to play came from John and Blighty built that belief in me and educated me on the fundamentals of the game and was a great teacher of the game.

“‘Craigy’ was a great people person and mentor who taught me about relationships, life skills and during some challenging times in my career he was there for me.”

Of course, Goodwin is now senior coach at Melbourne, but for 24 hours he returned to his home town to be an Adelaide Crow once more and celebrate an honour he never anticipated.

“I feel awkward in some ways,” he said. “It’s not something I saw myself achieving. I’m obviously hugely honoured to be in that category but in some ways it’s a bit embarrassing. It’s something I’ll be extremely proud of.”


Simon Goodwin with Melbourne Football Club staff, Peter Jackson, Todd Viney, Brendan McCartney and Josh Mahnoney.

Exclusive to melbournefc.com.au

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- See more at: http://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/2017-06-20/goodwin-inducted-into-hall-of-fame#sthash.cbLltd7j.dpuf

Idiotic that Neitz is still ignored. Hall ahead of him is a disgrace.

21 hours ago, Gorgoroth said:

Not bad. Coaches us to 7-5 and they put him in the hall of fame...

Imagine what he gets when he leads us to a flag!!!

We will make him an offical Victorian.

I don't want to re-post the full acceptance speech above, but I notice that Josh Mahoney's name is mis-spelt under the photo. Is that a mistake made by the MFC? If so, it's extremely amateurish. Mistakes of this type appear too often on the MFC website and in MFC tweets and is disappointing to see for a club that is otherwise being run so professionally.  

I love how, in his speech, goody made mention of 'my players' a couple of times. Not the players. My players

What an excellent speech. Well crafted with relevant reflection, some insight into personal inspiration, acknowledgment of others, humility and also reflective wisdom. 

What an example. If this is what the players hear we could be in for some prolonged success as he also left mention of MFC to the reference of "my players" and I think, how lucky he was to be there, with the hint that he still has plenty of dreams unfulfilled. I hope that one of them was holding up the premiership cup with his  MFC players 5 or 6 times.

2 hours ago, dpositive said:

What an excellent speech. Well crafted with relevant reflection, some insight into personal inspiration, acknowledgment of others, humility and also reflective wisdom. 

What an example. If this is what the players hear we could be in for some prolonged success as he also left mention of MFC to the reference of "my players" and I think, how lucky he was to be there, with the hint that he still has plenty of dreams unfulfilled. I hope that one of them was holding up the premiership cup with his  MFC players 5 or 6 times.

We have always won our flags in clusters!!

I just sent the following email to a stack of my Adelaide mates, many of whom passionately support the Crows (even though they all fled Adelaide as soon as they got a driver's licence or could afford to buy an airline ticket).

It's always nice to see grown men speak with fondness and humility about their upbringing in front of others, and gratefulness for the opportunities that others have given them. Craig Bradley did this super well when he announced his retirement. And now another SA boy, Simon Goodwin, has done much the same.

We are lucky to have this man. I hope he creates a Sheedy-esque dynasty at this club.

 

Celebrating growing up in Australia - best articulated by two SA dudes

Many of you are provincial Crow-eaters, so I thought I’d share this with you.

When I worked in London, I used to carry Craig Bradley’s media release announcing his retirement in my wallet. I thought it best described what I liked about Australia, and good Aussies in particular.

This morning as I got Henry ready for pre-school (which involved a lot of contested possessions, tackles, hard-ball gets etc), I listened to the speech that Simon Goodwin gave last night upon being inducted to the AFL’s Hall of Fame. 

Goody is a truly great Demon (obviously), but it’s fair to say that the Adelaide Crows were also mildly influential in his life.

If you have the time, listen to this from the 8.30 mark: http://www.melbournefc.com.au/video/2017-06-21/hall-of-fame-simon-goodwin-speech. I expect it will trigger fond memories for some of you.

I really hope he gets to achieve the rest of his childhood dreams at the MFC.

Here’s Craig Bradley’s media release for those of you who wish to read it: https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/craig-bradley-retires-official-release.53010/

Stay classy. Go Dees.