Jump to content

Featured Replies

23 hours ago, A F said:

We don't have time to wait for Oscar to develop into a powerful player.

Correct, so the presence of May in the mix of Jetta, HIbberd, Frost, Lever, Salem et al will be crucial for 2019/20.

 
12 minutes ago, Moonshadow said:

So you don't think clubs refrain from giving votes to players rumoured to be leaving? I'll agree to disagree and leave it there.

At the end of of the day (or Wednesday, as it is) the actual pick matters little to our trade objectives. If we get 5 as part of the Hogan trade and then use that to get May, we are a significantly better balanced team. IMO we are closer to a flag in 2019 with May than with Hogan, and I rate Hogan highly.

Apart from Lever there is no evidence of it, Kelly, Sloane, Martin all polled well.

May needs a very big pre-season. His best footy was quite some time ago. Does May in, Hogan out make us better, I'm not sure. Pick 5 can be used on a much better player, value for money as with all investing. For eg, I'd rather Harris Andrews with a pick 5 than I would Steven May.

3 minutes ago, SFebes said:

Apart from Lever there is no evidence of it, Kelly, Sloane, Martin all polled well.

May needs a very big pre-season. His best footy was quite some time ago. Does May in, Hogan out make us better, I'm not sure. Pick 5 can be used on a much better player, value for money as with all investing. For eg, I'd rather Harris Andrews with a pick 5 than I would Steven May.

May just needs a new home...one with prospects.....us ;)

 

just throwing this up...as it is the want of trading..  Do we actually know, should we indeed proceed to garnering pick 5 that it's just a straight swap...5 for May ?

I ask this because no where ( to my knowledge ) has the club actually said that. What it has said is we wont be able to do the trade for May. The many seem to just assume  thats all there is to it.. Id be thinking theres some sort of packaging and change or something else.

I dont think we pay 5 for May...but it's necessary in the deal. 


9 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

just throwing this up...as it is the want of trading..  Do we actually know, should we indeed proceed to garnering pick 5 that it's just a straight swap...5 for May ?

I ask this because no where ( to my knowledge ) has the club actually said that. What it has said is we wont be able to do the trade for May. The many seem to just assume  thats all there is to it.. Id be thinking theres some sort of packaging and change or something else.

I dont think we pay 5 for May...but it's necessary in the deal. 

for 5 i'd be expecting something extra to be coming back

Just now, daisycutter said:

for 5 i'd be expecting something extra to be coming back

well as 55 alludes ( i think ) as The KK deal isnt done yet  then maybe its part of this particular equation ?

by this the only part i can put a handle on are   5 out......May and KK in.... there may or may not be ( npi ) extras one way , both ways whatever.. to that scenario.

1 minute ago, beelzebub said:

well as 55 alludes ( i think ) as The KK deal isnt done yet  then maybe its part of this particular equation ?

by this the only part i can put a handle on are   5 out......May and KK in.... there may or may not be ( npi ) extras one way , both ways whatever.. to that scenario.

want more than sm + kk for 5, bub. may not worth 5 and kk will go for small change

 
36 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

want more than sm + kk for 5, bub. may not worth 5 and kk will go for small change

hence my thinking there's other things exchanged 

If we get pick 5 I'd hope we'd look at doing what someone else suggested earlier.

5 + ?? to Adelaide, who want to get ahead of PA in draft order 

8 & 14(?) to us

Give 8 + ?? to GC for May/KK

Take 14 to draft


On 10/10/2018 at 7:11 AM, beelzebub said:

 

Let's work on the basis that the Hogan trade does not happen. Could we offer next year's first round pick for Kade K and Stephen May. I think it would be enough. 

Edited by Thehardtackler

3 minutes ago, JTR said:

They'd need more than pick 18....  ?

Next years 1st rounder (16-18) and our 2nd rounder this year (32) for May

Can’t beleive we would offer up a top 5 pick for a guy who didn’t finish in GC BnF top 10 last year, and only finished 9th this year.


1 hour ago, olisik said:

Can’t beleive we would offer up a top 5 pick for a guy who didn’t finish in GC BnF top 10 last year, and only finished 9th this year.

In fairness I think he missed a fair few games the year before and also this year.  The bloke is a gun, he is worth every bit of pick 5.

3 minutes ago, Demons11 said:

In fairness I think he missed a fair few games the year before and also this year.  The bloke is a gun, he is worth every bit of pick 5.

not really, pretty consistent no. games last 5 years

  • 2013 17
  • 2014 19
  • 2015 18 
  • 2016 17
  • 2017 18
  • 2018 17
19 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

not really, pretty consistent no. games last 5 years

  • 2013 17
  • 2014 19
  • 2015 18 
  • 2016 17
  • 2017 18
  • 2018 17

If May is available for a full finals campaign, he will be worth the chase.

Unleash May, vandenBerg, Viney, Preuss and our midfield in a Grand Final, and St Johns will need extra staff.

 

 

 

Edited by faultydet

Would pick 8 get May? Pick 8 and a future 2nd round?

I would love to give pick 5 and 23 to Adelaide for 8 and 13?


Anyone got the numbers as to how many goals he has had kicked on him? Honestly doubt it would be much less then Omac has had kicked on him.

Cannot see a 195cm slow backman beating the Danihers, Browns, Riewoldt which is where we have issues...

Would even prefer to take Patton and slap him back there

14 minutes ago, olisik said:

Anyone got the numbers as to how many goals he has had kicked on him? Honestly doubt it would be much less then Omac has had kicked on him.

Cannot see a 195cm slow backman beating the Danihers, Browns, Riewoldt which is where we have issues...

Would even prefer to take Patton and slap him back there

You genuinely have no idea.

Well done.

8 minutes ago, stevethemanjordan said:

You genuinely have no idea.

Well done.

How many were kicked on Omac this year?

 
50 minutes ago, stevethemanjordan said:

You genuinely have no idea.

Well done.

How many were kicked on May this year?

1 hour ago, deanox said:

How many were kicked on Omac this year?

 

33 minutes ago, olisik said:

How many were kicked on May this year?

This isn't the complete answer to my question but it's a start.

The following key forwards, who May might play on, have kicked goals on us this year:

R1: Menzel 4.2, 

R2: n/a

R3: Brown 4.1, Waite 3.1

R4: Roughhead 3.1, O'Brien 3.0

R5: Reiwoldt 2.2

R6: Stringer 3.3

R7: n/a

R8: Day 2.2

R9: McKay 2.1

R10: n/a

R11: n/a

R12: Cox 5.1

R13: bye

R14: Westhoff 2.1

R15: McCartin 2.3, Battle 1.2

R16: Cox 2.0

R17: Schache 2.2

R18: Hawkins 7.0

R19: n/a

R20: n/a

R21: Franklin 2.5

R22: Vardy 1.1 

R23: Cameron 1.4

 

Other than Franklin, Hawkins and Cox, no one got off the leash. Hawkins was a result of the midfield. Cox only kicked one goal on OMac, the others were on Gawn, Pedo and Smith. I can't remember who played on Franklin. 

Add better midfield pressure and that improves again. Add Lever back as an interceptor and it helps further. 

Would May have made that much a difference this year?

 

 


Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Unfortunately, your content contains terms that we do not allow. Please edit your content to remove the highlighted words below.
Reply to this topic...

Featured Content

  • NON-MFC: Round 12

    Round 12 kicks off with the Brisbane hosting Essendon at the Gabba as the Lions aim to solidify their top-two position against an injury-hit Bombers side seeking to maintain momentum after a win over Richmond. On Friday night it's a blockbuster at the G as the Magpies look to extend their top of the table winning streak while the Hawks strive to bounce back from a couple of recent defeats and stay in contention for the Top 4. On Saturday the Suns, buoyed by 3 wins on the trot, face the Dockers in a clash crucial for both teams' aspirations this season. The Suns want to solidify their Top 4 standing whilst the Dockers will be desperate to break into the 8.

    • 41 replies
    Demonland
  • PREVIEW: St. Kilda

    The media has performed a complete reversal in its coverage of the Melbourne Football Club over the past month and a half. Having endured intense criticism from all quarters in the press, which continually identified new avenues for scrutiny of every aspect, both on and off the field, and prematurely speculated about the departures of coaches, players, officials, and various employees from a club that lost its first five matches and appeared out of finals contention, the narrative has suddenly shifted to one of unbridled optimism.  The Demons have won five of their last six matches, positioning themselves just one game (and a considerable amount of percentage) outside the top eight at the halfway mark of the season. They still trail the primary contenders and remain far from assured of a finals berth.

      • Clap
      • Thanks
      • Like
    • 11 replies
    Demonland
  • REPORT: Sydney

    A few weeks ago, I visited a fellow Melbourne Football Club supporter in hospital, and our conversation inevitably shifted from his health diagnosis to the well-being of our football team. Like him, Melbourne had faced challenges in recent months, but an intervention - in his case, surgery, and in the team's case, a change in game style - had brought about much improvement.  The team's professionals had altered its game style from a pedestrian and slow-moving approach, which yielded an average of merely 60 points for five winless games, to a faster and more direct style. This shift led to three consecutive wins and a strong competitive effort in the fourth game, albeit with a tired finish against Hawthorn, a strong premiership contender.  As we discussed our team's recent health improvement, I shared my observations on the changes within the team, including the refreshed style, the introduction of new young talent, such as rising stars Caleb Windsor, Harvey Langford, and Xavier Lindsay, and the rebranding of Kozzy Pickett from a small forward to a midfield machine who can still get among the goals. I also highlighted the dominance of captain Max Gawn in the ruck and the resurgence in form in a big way of midfield superstars Christian Petracca and Clayton Oliver. 

      • Clap
      • Love
      • Thanks
      • Like
    • 9 replies
    Demonland
  • PODCAST: Sydney

    The Demonland Podcast will air LIVE on Monday, 26th May @ 8:00pm. Join Binman, George & I as we analyse a crushing victory by the Demons over the Swans at the G. Your questions and comments are a huge part of our podcast so please post anything you want to ask or say below and we'll give you a shout out on the show.

      • Clap
      • Love
      • Thanks
      • Like
    • 50 replies
    Demonland
  • POSTGAME: Sydney

    The Demons controlled the contest from the outset, though inaccurate kicking kept the Swans in the game until half time. But after the break, Melbourne put on the jets and blew Sydney away and the demolition job was complete.

      • Clap
      • Love
      • Like
    • 428 replies
    Demonland
  • VOTES: Sydney

    Max Gawn still has an almost unassailable lead in the Demonland Player of the Year award. Jake Bowey, Christian Petracca, Harvey Langford, Kade Chandler & Ed Langdon round out the Top 5. Your votes please. 6, 5, 4, 3, 2 & 1.

      • Thanks
    • 46 replies
    Demonland