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Paid overs. Well done MFC on bending over again.

They went all in at first. Our first offer should have been the final offer.

Isn't next years draft rated as another or near-superdraft? No wonder Adelaide were adamant on getting our first round pick. STUPID!

 
4 minutes ago, WAGSLEFTFOOT said:

Done deal: Lever joins Demons

 

Adelaide will receive two first-round draft picks in exchange for defender Jake Lever after a trade deal was struck with Melbourne on Thursday morning at Etihad Stadium.

The Crows will get pick No.10, a future first-round selection and a future fourth-round selection from the Demons and send Lever, pick No.35 and a future third-round selection to Melbourne. 

Too much imo. 

 

gone! out for 152!!

what an innings for a 21 year old...the sort of player you can build a side around

not flashy, but just gets the job done

very happy with the deal personally - kid is a jet and it was beholden on us to get it done


I feel sick. 

I really wanted him to come to the club, but this deal seems very favourable to the Crows. 

 

1 minute ago, ignition. said:

Paid overs. Well done MFC on bending over again.

They went all in at first. Our first offer should have been the final offer.

Isn't next years draft rated as another or near-superdraft? No wonder Adelaide were adamant on getting our first round pick. STUPID!

Yup.

I said before the end of the season that two first was worth paying. But in the weeks leading up, a 1st and 2nd made sense given it was a superdraft. Even two early second rounders that could be flipped to get us into 2018 again would have been better.

 
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I wish posters would seriously stfu about what we'll be giving up vs getting in return for the Lever trade.

Adelaide made a [censored] Grand Final with zero top 10 picks in their side and a host of players who were either picked up late in the National Draft, traded in for later picks or picked up in the Rookie Draft. 

Sloane was pick 44 and Walker pick 75. Jacobs was brought in for picks 34 and 67, they gave pick 37 to St Kilda for Lynch. Knight was pick 46 and Atkins 81. 

Need I go on? 

I will.

Rookie drafts nabbed them Hartigan, Laird, Cameron and Kelly.

 

That's almost half of their best 22 and more importantly, some of their most influential and important players feature in that group. Compare that to the MFC who have a plethora of high-end talent, arguably the second-most in the AFL behind GWS. 

If history to date suggests anything, it's that the culture and environment of a club is of most importance to any sort of talent reaching its potential. GWS continue to stumble despite being the most talented group within the league. 

We're at a stage where we need to harbour, nurture and develop the group we have and we should be jumping for joy that Lever, (a once touted top 3 draft pick and the best young defender in the game at age 21) has nominated us as the club he wishes to play for. 

We're on to the next chapter of our growth as a club which is developing what we've got for an assault over the next five to seven years.

Shut up about the rest.

 

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* Written 1 minute before Lever trade went through

1 minute ago, ignition. said:

Paid overs. Well done MFC on bending over again.

They went all in at first. Our first offer should have been the final offer.

Isn't next years draft rated as another or near-superdraft? No wonder Adelaide were adamant on getting our first round pick. STUPID!

 

2 minutes ago, ignition. said:

Paid overs. Well done MFC on bending over again.

They went all in at first. Our first offer should have been the final offer.

Isn't next years draft rated as another or near-superdraft? No wonder Adelaide were adamant on getting our first round pick. STUPID!

We have given up the unknown to secure the known. SMART!


Happy it's done.... a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush

We get the best intercept defender in the league who is tracking even better than Rance did at his age and a heap of you are still whinging.

The draft is a complete lottery. Lever is a sure thing.

This is to be celebrated not bemoaned!

Just now, Nasher said:

Almost needs two threads. The "f yeah, we got him" and the "waaaaaaah, we paid overs". I'm in the former camp and don't really want my mood sullied by the latter.

I think it's a huge gamble but we may trade our way back into the draft by the end of the trade period so I'll wait until then to fully judge.

The draft is a gamble, proven players like Lever are gold.

Just now, Clint Bizkit said:

I think it's a huge gamble but we may trade our way back into the draft by the end of the trade period so I'll wait until then to fully judge.

I don't understand why it's a huge gamble. Surely MFC supporters would recognise it's the draft that is a gamble, not gun 21 year olds. 

We traded off lottery tickets for a known quantity. If someone said to you, "I'll give you a million dollars, or two tickets in to a draw to win 30 million", which one would you take?


4 minutes ago, ignition. said:

Paid overs. Well done MFC on bending over again.

They went all in at first. Our first offer should have been the final offer.

Isn't next years draft rated as another or near-superdraft? No wonder Adelaide were adamant on getting our first round pick. STUPID!

If this kids is as good as Rance and has ten years with a proven track record, I think well done. 

We have squandered draft picks before, a proven player for mind is good. This leave pick 27, 35 and whatever we get for Watts. All of which maybe used to secure someone with dash. Hogan definitely staying now.

Im happy.

A future 1st round pick means we can trade into 15-18 and hand that over. Thats about what we may get for Jack Watts.

 

Just now, ben russell said:

We get the best intercept defender in the league who is tracking even better than Rance did at his age and a heap of you are still whinging.

The draft is a complete lottery. Lever is a sure thing.

This is to be celebrated not bemoaned!

Just incredible that people can still find something to moan about when we land the most highly rated young defender in the game.

You guys will forget all about draft numbers, when we are playing finals.

 

And remember, players families read these threads. Show a bit of excitement for the guy. 

This is bloody wonderful news.

 

(Oh, and Jake, watch out for the bearded guy on a scooter)

 

5 minutes ago, ignition. said:

Paid overs. Well done MFC on bending over again.

They went all in at first. Our first offer should have been the final offer.

Isn't next years draft rated as another or near-superdraft? No wonder Adelaide were adamant on getting our first round pick. STUPID!

Agree... 


Look it's probably about right if next year's first rounder is 16-18. Come On Lever! Premiership here we come - no pressure.

On 9/12/2017 at 3:37 PM, Franky_31 said:

Im just impressed with all respect posters are showing to each other. Things that could have degenerated haven't.

Think you owe the site a donation - we are well under the 2100 points margin. 

Looks like Tmac is gonna be up forward next year and thats not a bad thing.

 

Was disappointed when I first heard but all for it. I along with many last year whinged and complained at Hibberd for a second rounder saying too much and it was an absolute steal. Even Melksham looks good value in hindsight. 

Draft picks are so overvalued throughout the industry because we see year in year out good juniors not develop and overlooked juniors ala Sloane, Fyfe etc turn picks 30-40 into AA's.

 

adelaide have done the hard work risked the pick and developed him and it's cost us downgrading a first to a second and upgrading a 4th to a 3rd. The more I think about it, I'm just thrilled to have him on board

2 minutes ago, DeeZee said:

The draft is a gamble, proven players like Lever are gold.

Completely agree.

I'd rather bank the picks and draft someone who is going to structurally set us up so much better, than risking and drafting a midfielder that may be a bust. Lever has such a positive knock-on effect for players such as Hunt, Hibberd, Tmac, Omac, etc. We can easily get an outside midfielder as a free agent next year. If we are to compete for a flag and finish top 4, you do it by bringing in blokes like Lever. 


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