Just now, Vogon Poetry said:

But what in it for the doctor?  The risk is that if it does get out the doctor is in serious trouble and for what?

I don't get it.  And what's in it for Carlton?  Nothing.

you don't get into trouble for having an opinion and colouring the description. what's in it for any supporter?

13 minutes ago, Vogon Poetry said:

But what in it for the doctor?  The risk is that if it does get out the doctor is in serious trouble and for what?

I don't get it.  And what's in it for Carlton?  Nothing.

He is a Carlton loyalist. Putting in his two bobs worth to rub it in to us. That's says enough. Who is going to dob him in.  No one is going to challenge his medical opinion. 

Edited April 7, 20178 yr by america de cali

1 minute ago, america de cali said:

He is a Carlton loyalist. That's says enough. Who is going to dob him in.  No one is going to challenge his medical opinion. 

Okay, I just don't buy it.  I know many doctors and I don't know one that would be unethical in such a situation and doing it in a high profile situation is much riskier than I think you're giving it credit for.  There is nothing in it for Carlton and nothing in it for the doctor.

I does seem that this situation gives us the opportunity to play the victim which is something I really hate but is part of the landscape (generally) now.

Doctors last i looked were human.

Dont for one moment think all are cast from the same mould.

Essendon has a doctor. Not much chop push come to shove 

Im not blaming doctors. The seeds for this farcical situation is firmly in ths AFLs corner and especially the MRP

Doesn't help our cause when you have the crooked boohoos to boot !!

11 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

Doctors last i looked were human.

Dont for one moment think all are cast from the same mould.

Essendon has a doctor. Not much chop push come to shove 

Im not blaming doctors. The seeds for this farcical situation is firmly in ths AFLs corner and especially the MRP

Doesn't help our cause when you have the crooked boohoos to boot !!

and it's all about flavour of the month/year and then a massive over-reaction to make a statement

this year it may be concussion, next year it may be broken limbs and some dolt will cop 5 weeks for diving on the ball and taking out someone's legs who will miraculously recover to play the next week

remember jack trengove got a huge suspension for a sling tackle and dangermouse kicked 5 the next week in a bog. nobody since has got such a suspension for a sling tackle

and all this occurs without the player(s) even getting a chance to defend themselves

56 minutes ago, Vogon Poetry said:

But what in it for the doctor?  The risk is that if it does get out the doctor is in serious trouble and for what?

I don't get it.  And what's in it for Carlton?  Nothing.

Doctor is employed by the Club and loves being a footy doctor.....

1 hour ago, daisycutter said:

and all this occurs without the player(s) even getting a chance to defend themselves

It's called appealing it. 

 

47 minutes ago, Vogon Poetry said:

It's called appealing it. 

 

lol seriously lol

2 hours ago, Vogon Poetry said:

But what in it for the doctor?  The risk is that if it does get out the doctor is in serious trouble and for what?

I don't get it.  And what's in it for Carlton?  Nothing.

What absolute rot...

All the doc has to say is its his/her OPINION. Surprise, surprise Patricks playing this weekend. 

2 hours ago, beelzebub said:

Doctors last i looked were human.

Dont for one moment think all are cast from the same mould.

Essendon has a doctor. Not much chop push come to shove 

Im not blaming doctors. The seeds for this farcical situation is firmly in ths AFLs corner and especially the MRP

Doesn't help our cause when you have the crooked boohoos to boot !!

Exactly.  Obviously i wont name him but he worked very closely with me to get the outcome i wanted. They can put their name on just about anything without getting questioned. We got rogered and Carlton didn't even put on the lipstick 

1 hour ago, Vogon Poetry said:

It's called appealing it. 

 

More like Russian Roulette with only one chamber empty !!

If we take TWSNBN's doctor as the yardstick it could not be beyond the realms to speculate no injury at all to these players. Could this be true. Who turned up to training with a recording device and then had to put it in an orifice to not get caught. Stay tuned..... 

The thick plottens 

2 hours ago, Vogon Poetry said:

Okay, I just don't buy it.  I know many doctors and I don't know one that would be unethical in such a situation and doing it in a high profile situation is much riskier than I think you're giving it credit for.  There is nothing in it for Carlton and nothing in it for the doctor.

I does seem that this situation gives us the opportunity to play the victim which is something I really hate but is part of the landscape (generally) now.

The Doc didn't even have to be sus. It could come down to a question of where is the line between low and medium impact? If you are annoyed that your team lost and two of your blokes get whacked you aren't going to be in a great mood. That mood may well have swayed it from one to the other, it may also have clouded their judgement. None of that is intentional, nor unforgivable, but it does show a problem with the system. The Fact neither player was immediately tested for concussion is interesting and questions should be asked. 

and one other point...........it wasn't behind play, it was in front of play and there is a big difference. jesse was positioning himself the ball about to come down. rowe trying to block him, pushed him in the chest whilst facing away from the ball......i don't call that behind play. jesse's jab was also an open hand. so reports of a punch behind play is wrong and just adds to the exaggeration. he should have got 1 week, that's all but he has to risk 3 just to plead his case

On the positive, Watts bowled the umpy over without repercussions.

28 minutes ago, steve_f said:

On the positive, Watts bowled the umpy over without repercussions.

He did what I dream of doing every weekend I watch us play (minus a few fists thrown in for good measure). Just another talent of his to appreciate

On the positive side, if Hogan did have a niggle this gives him time to get over it and come back super fit and ready to rip the comp apart!

42 minutes ago, steve_f said:

On the positive, Watts bowled the umpy over without repercussions.

Possibly because the ump shepherded wattsy from the marking contest

Delayed concussion is real. Hogan used the five point palm exploding heart trick on Rowe's face. 

39 minutes ago, Deestroy All said:

Delayed concussion is real. Hogan used the five point palm exploding heart trick on Rowe's face. 

I think the intent was to not use a closed fist, rather than a pressure point blow to the head area, my opinion only

Scintalating Stevo on the channels of 7 last night reminded carlscom that if indeed Rowe was concussed ( concushioned ) last week then he would have to be withdrawn this week.

Personally I thought Cripps tripping over himself in the vicinity of Lewis and Viney was unfortunate.

 

Jesse's way of getting a recuparitive week off was brilliant.

Chris Scott can't coach and our team can at our new favourite away ground can. 

# Raise Hell Dees

13 hours ago, daisycutter said:

lol seriously lol

Lol. Tell that to Jack Viney. 

Anyway enough. We play today and we'll see how we go without them. 

7 hours ago, puntkick said:

Scintalating Stevo on the channels of 7 last night reminded carlscom that if indeed Rowe was concussed ( concushioned ) last week then he would have to be withdrawn this week.

Interesting! 

Watson said in last night's news something like - there was a bit of a fuss brewing at Carlton with Rowe selected to play. 

Then Sam Mcclure said after the game last night he wouldn't be surprised if Rowe was a late withdrawl because of the 'little bit of concussion'.  (Note Carlton's medical report chose the words carefully - 'little bit of concussion'.  Hedged their bets: enough to condemn Hogan but not enough to stop Rowe playing?).

Maybe the Channel 7 folk know something? 

I would laugh and laugh if Rowe's 'little bit of concussion' backfires and he can't play  The only downside is its more likely Ess will win

Best case scenario:  Rowe out and Carlton find a way to win!! 

Edited April 7, 20178 yr by Lucifer's Hero

18 hours ago, Vogon Poetry said:

But what in it for the doctor?  The risk is that if it does get out the doctor is in serious trouble and for what?

I don't get it.  And what's in it for Carlton?  Nothing.

Vindictiveness after a loss

1 hour ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Interesting! 

Watson said in last night's news something like - there was a bit of a fuss brewing at Carlton with Rowe selected to play. 

Then Sam Mcclure said after the game last night he wouldn't be surprised if Rowe was a late withdrawl because of the 'little bit of concussion'.  (Note Carlton's medical report chose the words carefully - 'little bit of concussion'.  Hedged their bets: enough to condemn Hogan but not enough to stop Rowe playing?).

Maybe the Channel 7 folk know something? 

I would laugh and laugh if Rowe's 'little bit of concussion' backfires and he can't play  The only downside is its more likely Ess will win

Best case scenario:  Rowe out and Carlton find a way to win!! 

Or he plays and puts in a shocker.

1 hour ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Interesting! 

Watson said in last night's news something like - there was a bit of a fuss brewing at Carlton with Rowe selected to play. 

Then Sam Mcclure said after the game last night he wouldn't be surprised if Rowe was a late withdrawl because of the 'little bit of concussion'.  (Note Carlton's medical report chose the words carefully - 'little bit of concussion'.  Hedged their bets: enough to condemn Hogan but not enough to stop Rowe playing?).

Maybe the Channel 7 folk know something? 

I would laugh and laugh if Rowe's 'little bit of concussion' backfires and he can't play  The only downside is its more likely Ess will win

Best case scenario:  Rowe out and Carlton find a way to win!! 

I have a problem with this game, I dislike one club and the other is my most disliked club.