And we still don't really know ANYTHING, still conjecture rolled in interpretation.

Many making out they " know" something. 

Another funny thread.

2 hours ago, daisycutter said:

the old war horse or the young colt?

http://m.afl.com.au/video/2017-02-24/watts-speaks-derby-buildup-dons-tapes

Even him speaking is a headline.

3 hours ago, Macca said:

Those days are long gone ... the media are making this a story and the club is playing a straight bat. 

Watts is being treated like any other player on the list. 

 

No, he is not. When others have done the wrong thing off field eg young Oliver they have been named and sanctioned by the club. Even made to apologise to teammates. IF Jack has done something wrong off field then he should have been named and the misdoing stated. Instead, the club cover up by talking vaguely about 'some issues' leaving us all totally in the dark with many false assumptions. Bad form MFC. Come out in the open and let us know what is really going on before things escalate.

2 minutes ago, Bobby McKenzie said:

No, he is not. When others have done the wrong thing off field eg young Oliver they have been named and sanctioned by the club. Even made to apologise to teammates. IF Jack has done something wrong off field then he should have been named and the misdoing stated. Instead, the club cover up by talking vaguely about 'some issues' leaving us all totally in the dark with many false assumptions. Bad form MFC. Come out in the open and let us know what is really going on before things escalate.

My reading of it is that he's missed out on form Bobby ... and training form does matter. 

I don't see anything sinister. It's a new year and a new broom sweeps clean. 

All this because he didn't reach a KPI..

Goodwin has him locked up, poking him with chicken bones to make him angry before he unleashes him for the all important Battle Royale (aka practice match number 3).

Edited February 24, 20178 yr by Ethan Tremblay

1 hour ago, DubDee said:

Great to see the club take a hard line with players who aren't giving 100%. even if he is giving 85% and its not obvious. soft clubs let this slide but Goody wants Watts to be a star of the comp not just a good player

In Watts' defence it does not seem to be in nature to be 100% focused on footy for 11 months of the year. For Viney he eats it up. I haven't seen Viney out partying at 3am 

Watts will be need to pushed by his coaches and teammates every now and then and it is no big deal.

 

Have you actually seen Watts out partying at 3 am or are you just relying on hearsay?

This whole thread and all the media reports are hearsay Bobby

Edited February 24, 20178 yr by Lord Travis

7 minutes ago, Lord Travis said:

This whole thread and all the media reports are hearsay Bobby

Very true, but I have worries over Mahoneys comment about a "few issues need to be sorted" Bit of cloak and dagger stuff maybe?

1 hour ago, Bobby McKenzie said:

Have you actually seen Watts out partying at 3 am or are you just relying on hearsay?

Yeah I've seen him at 3am a few weeks back. Only once though, then again I'm not out at 3am very often

Out of boredom, I just searched 'Jack Watts' on this forum and got 9329 results.

 

16 minutes ago, McQueen said:

Out of boredom, I just searched 'Jack Watts' on this forum and got 9329 results.

 

Classic. Well at least The Bummers came to the rescue today and stole the headlines, taking the heat off us.......Thanks again Essendon.....another club that just keeps on giving.

Watts didn't want to go into detail, but on 7 news mentioned it revolved around training "intensity" issues.

23 minutes ago, ProDee said:

Watts didn't want to go into detail, but on 7 news mentioned it revolved around training "intensity" issues.

 

21 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

All this because his heart rate wasn't fast enough during a training session. 

At training, there are 2 fixed cameras, two roving cameras, the players wear GPS, there are approximately 8 coaches at any one time, who are all linked by mobile radio, there is nowhere to hide at training

25 minutes ago, ProDee said:

Watts didn't want to go into detail, but on 7 news mentioned it revolved around training "intensity" issues.

 

23 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

All this because his heart rate wasn't fast enough during a training session. 

At training, there are 2 fixed cameras, two roving cameras, the players wear GPS, there are approximately 8 coaches at any one time, who are all linked by mobile radio, there is nowhere to hide at training

1 hour ago, ProDee said:

Watts didn't want to go into detail, but on 7 news mentioned it revolved around training "intensity" issues.

Also saw the interview. Pretty cut and dry now. It's about intensity and Goodwin is not letting Jack fall into his old habits. No more speculation needed.

3 minutes ago, demon9 said:

Also saw the interview. Pretty cut and dry now. It's about intensity and Goodwin is not letting Jack fall into his old habits. No more speculation needed.

Thanks god thats cleared up. 

Thanks demon9

Can we all move on now. 

Edited February 24, 20178 yr by DemonOX

I bumped into Jack this morning at the agora and asked him about the meaning of life and his reply was “When my time on earth is gone, and my activities here are passed, I want they bury me upside down, and my critics can kiss my ass”

5 hours ago, Akum said:

And if you're a coach, you need to know how to motivate different types of players. Every coach knows how to motivate a "hard-nut" - in fact, you can do just about anything. But how you motivate a player like Watts is not how you motivate a "hard nut". Roos knew that, and got the best out of Watts.

Whatever way we want to describe these types of players (Warrior spirit?), one thing is for sure, these players are worth their weight in gold.  They have to be top-line footballers as well of course.  

It can't be taught and it can't be coached either ... in fact,  any coach would generally leave these players to their own devices but would know that any instruction would be carried out to the letter.  It's interesting that our 2 captains qualify as absolute proven hardnuts. 

Jack Watts will get his way into the senior team and when he does,  he'll know that he'll need to perform well to stay in the side.

Good teams have up to 12-14 players who perform well in 4 out of 5 games or perhaps perform well in 5 out of 6 games.  That's got to be the standard if we're going to contend.

27 minutes ago, DemonOX said:

Thanks god thats cleared up. 

Thanks demon9

Can we all move on now. 

Well, I understand your sarcasm, but when the club peddles out key criteria and KPI BS, a simple "lacking intensity" would've been nice.

2 hours ago, DubDee said:

Yeah I've seen him at 3am a few weeks back. Only once though, then again I'm not out at 3am very often

I hope you haven't been stalking Jack DubDee.

15 minutes ago, demon9 said:

Well, I understand your sarcasm, but when the club peddles out key criteria and KPI BS, a simple "lacking intensity" would've been nice.

I wasn't being sarcastic mate. 

It was genuine. I'm glad u posted it. 

I rate Jack Watts.

 

I hate Jack Watts.

I wait, Jack Watts

2 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

I wait, Jack Watts

Okay, come clean, who dates Jack Watts?