17 minutes ago, Fifty-5 said:

 

Posters would benefit from a bit of patience and taking the longer view.

 

I believe you may forgotten where you are .....

A great interview with his former TAC cup coach.

https://audioboom.com/boos/4941508-david-loader-talking-oscar-mcdonald

Another good article on Tom and Oscar.

http://www.aflplayers.com.au/article/melbourne-like-home-for-mcdonald-bros/

16 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Another good article on Tom and Oscar.

http://www.aflplayers.com.au/article/melbourne-like-home-for-mcdonald-bros/

Love the barney about Oscar chasing kicks up the field.  This is one of the benefits with players being very comfortable with each other - you can have a "frank discussion" with each other and get what needs to be said, said.  Great stuff.

Both Dunn and Garland are surplus to our needs and will move on at seasons end. Garland has always been a limited player and Dunn isn't smart enough to take his game to the next level.

2 hours ago, Roost It said:

Both Dunn and Garland are surplus to our needs and will move on at seasons end. Garland has always been a limited player and Dunn isn't smart enough to take his game to the next level.

We hope we can move them on ....

6 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

We hope we can move them on ....

And replace them with who exactly ? 

All fair and easy to say lets just get rid of them but atm they are depth that we need in our defence stock. It only takes Frost or Oscar to go down with injury and before you know it Garland and Dunn will suddenly be important playing memebers that will have to step.

They deserve to remain on our list and honour their contracts. And right now they are important depth players.

10 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

And replace them with who exactly ? 

All fair and easy to say lets just get rid of them but atm they are depth that we need in our defence stock. It only takes Frost or Oscar to go down with injury and before you know it Garland and Dunn will suddenly be important playing memebers that will have to step.

They deserve to remain on our list and honour their contracts. And right now they are important depth players.

Agreed Daz, unless there is a suitable trade.

We've been blessed with minimal injuries over the last couple of months. If the 2 Macs went down, Judy and Dunny would play. Whatever individuals think of them, we need depth. 

On 15/08/2016 at 4:32 PM, John Dee said:

I recently attended a series of lectures to mark the 100 year anniversary of Einstein's Special Theory of Relativity. The new hot subject is Dark Matter. We should try to work that into a comment in this thread.

Dark Matter, huh?  There's your problem!  Your data on galactic gravity is million of years out-of-date.  What the gravity is now is unknown.

12 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

And replace them with who exactly ? 

All fair and easy to say lets just get rid of them but atm they are depth that we need in our defence stock. It only takes Frost or Oscar to go down with injury and before you know it Garland and Dunn will suddenly be important playing memebers that will have to step.

They deserve to remain on our list and honour their contracts. And right now they are important depth players.

Agree with that Dazzle, they are the only 2 key defenders we have as backup if Frost or the MCD brothers go down. Last thing we need is having to put our young key forwards down back to cover their losses. Like Spencer they are not in the best side but provide experience who can help develop the youngersters, especially at training. They were both loyal to us when they could have walked as free agents, we should do the same, they should see out their contracts unless they want to leave

On 15/08/2016 at 4:32 PM, John Dee said:

I recently attended a series of lectures to mark the 100 year anniversary of Einstein's Special Theory of Relativity. The new hot subject is Dark Matter. We should try to work that into a comment in this thread.

dark matter my wallet is currently full of it... how much would you want. send a stamped self addressed envelope, & I can send you all you need.

13 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

And replace them with who exactly ? 

All fair and easy to say lets just get rid of them but atm they are depth that we need in our defence stock. It only takes Frost or Oscar to go down with injury and before you know it Garland and Dunn will suddenly be important playing memebers that will have to step.

They deserve to remain on our list and honour their contracts. And right now they are important depth players.

lets just hang onto players that will never don the red and blue again then eh ?

If all they are doing is playing in the other paddock they have become essentially list cloggers..

Might as well bring in some more youth and train /develop into players we WILL use 

It seems that Oscar is quite a smart young man...... ATAR score of 99.3 (Very strong in Mathematics .... bet you he has our finals chances all mapped out !!)

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/aug/19/inside-50-afl-clubs-are-starting-to-ponder-the-value-of-brains-over-brawn

Whilst not quite willing to eat my words just yet , never let it be said that I won't acknowledge an improved performance!.

He has been good the last three weeks! 

I'll leave it at that!

On 8/19/2016 at 0:56 PM, Diamond_Jim said:

It seems that Oscar is quite a smart young man...... ATAR score of 99.3 (Very strong in Mathematics .... bet you he has our finals chances all mapped out !!)

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/aug/19/inside-50-afl-clubs-are-starting-to-ponder-the-value-of-brains-over-brawn

Also a pretty handy golfer from all reports - sub par round at Royal Melbourne was mentioned in an interview with Mark Allen.

16 minutes ago, picket fence said:

Whilst not quite willing to eat my words just yet , never let it be said that I won't acknowledge an improved performance!.

He has been good the last three weeks! 

I'll leave it at that!

Nice one.

On Friday, August 19, 2016 at 0:40 PM, beelzebub said:

lets just hang onto players that will never don the red and blue again then eh ?

If all they are doing is playing in the other paddock they have become essentially list cloggers..

Might as well bring in some more youth and train /develop into players we WILL use 

Your completely missing the point..

To bring in more youth you need senior heads to help with their development and take the heat off them. And thats exactly what Dunn and Garland are now doing at Casey.

If they have to play the rest of their careers down at Casey then so be it. They provide leadership for our younger players and help drive the standard that required. 

If Oscar or Tom go down with injury then who do you replace then with if you want to get rid of Garland and Dunn at the end of the year? You simply cannot throw a skinny underdeveloped 18 at full back and expect them to do the job.

Dunn and Garland stay on the list simply for insurance.

1 hour ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Your completely missing the point..

To bring in more youth you need senior heads to help with their development and take the heat off them. And thats exactly what Dunn and Garland are now doing at Casey.

If they have to play the rest of their careers down at Casey then so be it. They provide leadership for our younger players and help drive the standard that required. 

If Oscar or Tom go down with injury then who do you replace then with if you want to get rid of Garland and Dunn at the end of the year? You simply cannot throw a skinny underdeveloped 18 at full back and expect them to do the job.

Dunn and Garland stay on the list simply for insurance.

If we were to be ruthless and keep one who would you pick??

2 hours ago, picket fence said:

Whilst not quite willing to eat my words just yet , never let it be said that I won't acknowledge an improved performance!.

He has been good the last three weeks! 

I'll leave it at that!

Not even a backhanded one this time, just an every day compliment.

Good to see you're coming around.

38 minutes ago, Nasher said:

Not even a backhanded one this time, just an every day compliment.

Good to see you're coming around.

I think the final step is to change the OP back to its original form and undo all his posts that he deleted.

Then people may even stop laughing at him.

1 hour ago, picket fence said:

If we were to be ruthless and keep one who would you pick??

Dunn.

Oscar's current update (13/1/17):

"Oscar has really emerged again. We all saw really good snippets of Oscar’s progression last year. He’s bigger and stronger again, and has the capacity to run and still carry it. Oscar’s on the verge of becoming a very good player."

He is still yet to convince me he is worth his spot! Time will tell! Would rather Frost in the same position, easily!

1 hour ago, picket fence said:

He is still yet to convince me he is worth his spot! Time will tell! Would rather Frost in the same position, easily!

It may be a case of convincing everyone but you.

Oscar is a footballer while Frost is an athlete.

There is room for both, but maybe not every week.

8 hours ago, mauriesy said:

Oscar's current update (13/1/17):

"Oscar has really emerged again. We all saw really good snippets of Oscar’s progression last year. He’s bigger and stronger again, and has the capacity to run and still carry it. Oscar’s on the verge of becoming a very good player."

It's hard to believe he could get much bigger/ stronger. He really is our Glen Jakovich.