18 minutes ago, praha said:

He is not terrible, certainly no worse than Garland.

Terrible thread. We won by 70 points.

4 minutes ago, Lord Travis said:

We can't afford to carry players if we're contending for finals. In a close game he would cost us the match. I've never seen a player fumble more in 25 years.

I think he has good attributes and will be solid long term, but he's not ready yet and we can't carry players anymore. Dunn or Frost takes his spot as they're both ready to go. He got outmarked by Keays 2-3 times when one on one. He is 11cms taller and 13kgs heavier yet got out-bodied. If Dunn is there, that won't happen. Simple as that.

If Dunn was there he'd give away a stupid free kick 

If we're supposed to be getting games on merit. This hasn't lived up to the premise.

The kid (playing his fourth game I think) had some errors but found the ball 18 times and I am pretty sure his opponent was Schache all day who took one mark and kicked one point. Some peoples focus after a game I just don't get at times.

Edited May 22, 20169 yr by big_red_fire_engine

59 minutes ago, picket fence said:

In what universe is this guy an AFL standard player?

He is slow, ;lacks awareness, fumbly, easily pushed of the ball and just not up to it.

Love to know what the match commitee see that I don't ???

Anyone else share the same opinion?

I love how hysterical you get over a kid who has played a handful of games 

Valid thread.

He's not ready yet.  That's all.

It's says more about how bad our key tall defensive stocks are that oscar has to play right now when he is no where near ready.

Normally  I'd say get him off the ground.....but.... he needs to develop.

 

Just now, stranga said:

It's says more about how bad our key tall defensive stocks are that oscar has to play right now when he is no where near ready.

I still think Frost would do well down back as a key defender, perfect match up for Dixon next week.

Give the young guy a chance.Many people supported Colin Sylvia thou he was useless.

Christ, the kid hasn't even played 5 games. He kept Schache goalless, which wasn't a bad effort.

Tyson was just as poor today i felt, he didn't register a single stat. Oh wait.......... he was withdrawn due to sickness, but by your logic, that isn't a good enough excuse. At least Oscar can get on the park. FMD

Give him some time. I'm sure Roos and Goodwin see more and know him better than us punters. If we cut every key position player who struggled in their first 10 games we'd only have a bunch of mids playing. Whilst he made some poor decisions and turned the ball over a few times, his opponent (Schache) was kept to SFA. Isn't that an important KPI for a big backman?

Is Demonland having a contest to see who can pot young players the quickest?

19 minutes ago, ENYAW said:

Give the young guy a chance.Many people supported Colin Sylvia thou he was useless.

Yeah, but Col played pi55ed. It's a fair effort.

Wow. I find it a little strange. He made a couple of errors, but he also made a couple of great spoils one-on-one. 

Would rather give him games (particularly against teams like Brisbane) than persist with guys whom the coaches seem to have limited faith in.

Wish we had video of you in your 6th day in your first job Picket.

He's clearly not ready right now. 

The question is whether we want to develop him in the seniors. If Dunn's really that bad right now that OMac is the better option, then that says more about Dunn than OMac.

I like the kid, he tries and he has the right traits, but he is lost in many aspects of the game. IMO should be developing in the VFL.

Sure he wasn't a giant killer but how many did his direct opponent (such as they  are today) get?

He fought back hard later in the game.

He has played a mere handful of games - sure he needs some more time at Casey but this was a good game to give him another taste and get the feel of what is required.

I also find it strange how Demonland will defend certain players to the hilt (OMac) whilst other players are hated so vehemently (Toumpas).

Draft position must be the answer.

Stupid thread.  He smashed his opponent today.  His disposal was good.  He won several loose balls which has always been a weakness for him.  He was up against a guy who is taller, heavier and has played twice as many games as him, as well as being drafted 51 spots earlier.  He was solid today and certainly doesn't deserve to be targeted like this. 

 

1 hour ago, big_red_fire_engine said:

The kid (playing his fourth game I think) had some errors but found the ball 18 times and I am pretty sure his opponent was Schache all day who took one mark and kicked one point. Some peoples focus after a game I just don't get at times.

 

The Big O is still a raw kid. Playing him against The Bears was good thinking. 

Back to Casey to work on his ball skills when pressure is around

too early to call whether he will make it

i think Frank Grimes has played his last game for us though, if he was overlooked today then that looks like it in my opinion. 

I have NEVER seen such a loose backline...

Edited May 22, 20169 yr by Sir Why You Little

I think he needs more AFL exposure, not more VFL time. There's such a difference between both levels that I want us getting games into him now. The FD seem to agree.

1 minute ago, picket fence said:

What game were you watching??? 

I was sitting behind the goals at the punt road end. 

3 minutes ago, AdamFarr said:

I think he needs more AFL exposure, not more VFL time. There's such a difference between both levels that I want us getting games into him now. The FD seem to agree.

You may be right, but play him when Nev Jetta is in the side

today our backline looked like Play School. Long Term we may benefit, but i want the team to also push for a finals spot this year. Get some REAL experience. 

The Big O is nowhere near ready for that.