Gawn without a third man up?

[rjay 24,928]

54 minutes ago, don't make me angry said:

U are wrong the extra circle was put in 2004 not 2005 loiok up ruck rules on wiki

Maybe you should use AFL resources rather than wiki for your facts....

http://www.afl.com.au/afl-hq/the-afl-explained/rule-changes-18582013

 

Edited February 1, 2017 by Demonland

[Demon trucker 1,800]

3 minutes ago, rjay said:

Maybe you should use AFL resources rather than wiki for your facts....

httyp://www.afl.com.au/afl-hq/the-afl-explained/rule-changes-18582013

...and don't get personal, I wasn't mouthing off just setting the record straight.

Yes sorry it was changed in 2004 in November so after the season so you are right what year it got used,  but also I am right but should have t looked what date it was changed being in November 2004 wiki just said 2004 

[DEE fence 5,016]

3 hours ago, don't make me angry said:

U are wrong the extra circle was put in 2004 not 2005 loiok up ruck rules on wiki  

G'day Angry, sorry but you might want to check a little further and maybe edit the wiki you are referring to, as it is wrong.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_White_(Australian_footballer) and http://www.theage.com.au/news/Sport/New-ruck-rules-for-AFLs/2004/12/15/1102787141669.html

are pretty specific - the circle was introduced in 2005 after a post season test in 2004. 

If you look at Jeff White's stats he dropped off after 2004, (a shin injury didn't help either).

I stand by my original comment, I'm still dirty about the circles, they stuffed Jeff's run up to the bounce.

Edit: My apology,I didn't see the 2nd page of comments, and your retraction, my post was redundant, anyway the forum on JW from 2007 - click on the link, a few commented on the circle.

 

 

Edited February 2, 2017 by DaisyDeeciple
Apology

[sue 9,106]

Anyone know the stats on to what extent the injuries have dropped that the circle was implemented to prevent ?

[MarryMeJack 1]

I'm sure he'll do fine without it, although Watts was a good help last year...

Edited February 2, 2017 by MarryMeJack

[george_on_the_outer 7,591]

21 hours ago, sue said:

Anyone know the stats on to what extent the injuries have dropped that the circle was implemented to prevent ?

I can't find any statistics, and they may be hard to find because of the small number of ruckmen in the game and the time of survey...but here is some anecdotal reporting on the matter:

http://lakehealthgroup.com.au/pcl-injury-a-ruckmans-curse/

to quote..

."In the AFL there is now a 10 metre outer centre circle which limits the run up distance available to the ruckman. This rule change in 2004 was bought in as a result of many AFL ruckman sustaining PCL injuries by extremely high impact forces as ruckman clashed knees from a long run up. Since this rule chance the incidence of PCL injuries in ruck contests has significantly dropped."

Also, many ruckmen now are using a tibia brace to lessen the impact, or rather spread it across a larger area, reducing the pressure on the knee and the PCL. I think Jeff White was probably the first to utilise this?

[Wrecker45 3,378]

I've gone from loving this no 3rd man up rule to hating it.

We really are cursed.

[olisik 4,060]

3 minutes ago, Wrecker45 said:

I've gone from loving this no 3rd man up rule to hating it.

We really are cursed.

Then next year when our rucks are all fit, the rule will be removed

[The heart beats true 18,123]

Malthouse picked Max to win the Brownlow. He's easily our most important player, especially with so many inside mids. He can get it to the outside when it's their to give, or rely on our contested players if he has to nullify.

Losing him was akin to Geelong losing Dangerfield or the Eagles losing Kennedy - in that half the team is built around it.