Typical of this club. 

Weak front runners. 

It wouldn't have been a deserved win but 2.9 from set shots really hurts. Very few of them were difficult.

I doubt we're going to see Viv Michie wear the red and blue again. 

2 minutes ago, Forest Demon said:

Are we a one trick pony? If Gawn doesn't dominate, and feed our inside mid brigade, we lose.

Yes.

7 minutes ago, bing181 said:

Just to confirm, our percentage went down.

Losing usually helps that.

Disappointed

6 minutes ago, Rod Grinter Riot Squad said:

Disagree, obviously.

 

let them have the extra man in defence all day, that way we had an extra player for 'ball use'. Sorry, but on a wet day that makes no sense. Go man on man, get the ball and get it forward. Instead, all day, we had players look up and have Carlton numbers in front of them so they hand balled excessively. 

 

Yes there were were many other factors, but to me Roos could have changed things to stop the overuse of handball and didn't.

Yes,

Wet weather footy is actually pretty simple. Numbers to a contest and kick it long.  Repeat.  Extra man behind play doesn't suit this from either perspective. Behind play requires handballs or short kicks to gain an advatage, but in the wet the benefit of this is negated through the slippery conditions.  While in the foward line, well we could all see what happens - to beat tbe extra man requires precision again something harder to do in these conditions.

Stupid, dumb, stuborn coaching.

And the selections Well thats another rant begging to happen  

 

 

7 minutes ago, Chook said:

Paul Roos set out to improve our percentage. He has succeeded.

He set out to improve our win rate. He succeeded at that too.

He set out to reduce the gap between our best and worst. He has quite clearly failed in that regard.
And the shame of it is, even if we somehow beat Geelong next week, it will only serve to prove that the gap between our best and worst is just too large.

How many 100 pt losses this year? How many 10 goal losses.

It has improved. Maybe not as much as we would like, but to say Roos has failed at reducing the gap is just incorrect

1 minute ago, P-man said:

It wouldn't have been a deserved win but 2.9 from set shots really hurts. Very few of them were difficult.

Symptomatic of what was going on further up the ground.

1 minute ago, Demon Jack said:

I doubt we're going to see Viv Michie wear the red and blue again. 

Experiment fail

8 minutes ago, 3Dee said:

wow, we were just called 'a big scalp'

Possibly the only positive to come out of today.

Despite loses against Essendon and Carlton, ten wins is still a successful season and a clear step in the right direction.

15 minutes ago, Rod Grinter Riot Squad said:

Disagree, obviously.

 

let them have the extra man in defence all day, that way we had an extra player for 'ball use'. Sorry, but on a wet day that makes no sense. Go man on man, get the ball and get it forward. Instead, all day, we had players look up and have Carlton numbers in front of them so they hand balled excessively. 

 

Yes there were were many other factors, but to me Roos could have changed things to stop the overuse of handball and didn't.

This.

1 minute ago, Mickey said:

How many 100 pt losses this year? How many 10 goal losses.

It has improved. Maybe not as much as we would like, but to say Roos has failed at reducing the gap is just incorrect

Even in this game, we were with them at 3/4 time, which has been true of a lot of our losses this year. That gap isn't as big as some (here) would like to make out. 

1 minute ago, P-man said:

It wouldn't have been a deserved win but 2.9 from set shots really hurts. Very few of them were difficult.

Carlton played better, but we still could have won. Hogan and Petracca's set shots are officially an issue.

6 minutes ago, Petraccattack said:

Last two seasons we are 0-8 vs Essendon, Carlton and St Kilda.

Which one or two did we play three times?

Or did we play St Kilda four times?

Just now, Clint Bizkit said:

This.

Quick, stick it in your structure thread.  You know, the one you bring up to the front page after every loss as if you're some sort of oracle who takes pleasure in a loss.

Just said on the radio Goodwin addressed the players after the game, Roos didn't attend.

5 minutes ago, Rod Grinter Riot Squad said:

 We I could start a thread about how he needs a good hard look at himself, but am not prone to such hyperbole.

 

Hang on, that's been done anyway.

You must have missed the bit where i also put my hand up and ate fair chunk of humble pie. 

We all say silly things in the Heat of moment  but as we speak Simon Goodwin is the great unkown. Paul Roos on his day is one of the best coaches going around.

Yep, we definitely need a Plan B in the wet. We can't play our gun and run game style in the wet. It breaks down poorly.

And we just didn't pull the trigger with kick or handball at the right time today. When we should have kicked we handballed. When we should have handballed, slowed down play or gone side ways or tried the switch, we bombed long to an empty forwardline.

It's been a while since our forwardline has been as dysfunctional as it was today.

Edited August 21, 20168 yr by A F

3 minutes ago, Clint Bizkit said:

Yes.

We have not won a game without Max firing.

14 minutes ago, A F said:

Michie and ANB have no weapons for this level. Trade and delist both.

Playing them today probably eliminated their trade value? They were thrown up with Hibberd a month ago, good luck now.

Edited August 21, 20168 yr by johndemons

Just now, Demon Jack said:

Despite loses against Essendon and Carlton, ten wins is still a successful season and a clear step in the right direction.

I guess the positive is we still secured 10 wins despite losing to both Essendon and Carlton. 

Compare that to St Kilda: 11 wins off the back of 4 wins against those two teams.

Not hard to see which team is better placed, IMHO.

Blues wanted it more which is an indictment on the team. We're they looking ahead to next week? Think it would just happen for them? This was every bit as bad as the Essendon loss. 

1 minute ago, Wiseblood said:

Quick, stick it in your structure thread.  You know, the one you bring up to the front page after every loss as if you're some sort of oracle who takes pleasure in a loss.

Maybe because our structure was rubbish today?