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5 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

But Saty said he kicks it over 50m at training :wacko:

It may be that he does though, which again just points to it being an issue of confidence.

He kicked 7.1 against the Aints and 5.1 against Brisbane.  Last year he kicked 44.19.  Fundamentally, he must be able to kick.  

It would be bloody nice to see him have a nice, fluid set shot action like Watts does, I'll admit.  If we can get ProDee to say "if only Hogan was a bit more like Watts", I'll have officially seen everything on this forum. :)

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    NO CHANGE. Weed has a taste of AFL footy which is good, I would like for him to work on his physical strength and not take a risk in case of injury.2017 he will get plenty of game time. Regardless whether Pedo did not play well,not everyone in a winning side needs to play well.

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    38 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

    Another perspective. IsHogan 100â„… ?

    Maybe Play someone who is ?

    mentally or physically, bub?

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    39 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

    But Saty said he kicks it over 50m at training :wacko:

    But we all know you don't learn anything at training and the only thing that's important is doing it on game day. I don't know why they even bother doing any kicking at training. In fact, why bother training at all.

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    54 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

    But Saty said he kicks it over 50m at training :wacko:

    I've spent a fair bit of time at training and keenly kept an eye on Hogan's goal-kicking and I've never seen him attempt a kick from 50 or beyond.  He always sets up about 35 metres out.

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    37 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

    mentally or physically, bub?

    maybe both !! :unsure:

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    I understand the rationale to rest Hoges, but it comes across as a risky decision because though he has off days, when he is on, he is on. I just have a feeling he is going to have a cracker next week and make up for the past couple of games. That being said, it is tough trying to see how we change the team. On another note, can we just acknowledge how far Oscar McDonald has come? It really is all starting to pay off...

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    Early 2016 Ben Kennedy would be a nice addition for someone like Harmes - same level of pressure and intensity and uses it better

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    also i used to have Bugg in the same category as these guys but his set shots the last two weeks have really surprised me he was butchering it everywhere earlier in the year

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    Commentator at the Scorps match has mentioned that JKH has been offered a three year contract by Carlton.

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    Just now, CBDees said:

    Commentator at the Scorps matched has mentioned that JKH has been offered a three year contract by Carlton.

    hed get a game there...will struggle with us from here on in Id think

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    The ones who struggled against Port were Hogan, Harmes and Garlett. Hogan had a quiet patch last year too, but came through it so leave him be. Harmes out for Salem but only if Salem plays an exceptional game for Casey today. The difficult one is Garlett. He may stay in to stick one up Carlton but his attitude and concentration at th moment are below standard. Again, if JKH plays a good game then he comes in for Garlett. 

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    16 minutes ago, Maldonboy38 said:

    The ones who struggled against Port were Hogan, Harmes and Garlett. Hogan had a quiet patch last year too, but came through it so leave him be. Harmes out for Salem but only if Salem plays an exceptional game for Casey today. The difficult one is Garlett. He may stay in to stick one up Carlton but his attitude and concentration at th moment are below standard. Again, if JKH plays a good game then he comes in for Garlett. 

    Disagree. Reckon Garlett was okay work rate-wise. Vandenberg's the guy I'd be dropping. He wouldn't have marked a beachball last night. And he continues to be a contender for our worst handballer. Most of them go at the feet of his team mates. 

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    1 minute ago, demon9 said:

    Hogan hasn't kicked a goal since the saints game - still wouldn't drop him though.

    yeah...shucks...with such a return from your gun fwd  you wouldnt would you .....oh wait :unsure:

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    Garlett will probably be saved by his two late goals. Might be a confidence boost for him.

    But most of his problems lately have been from laziness near goal. He continually gets behind his opponent, on purpose, to try to tip the ball out the back and go for the flashy goal. Low percentage.

    Also he has "small forwards disease" where he wants to dribble the ball through the posts. Like his point last night. Why give the ball an opportunity to take a bad bounce or slice like a golf shot. Unless you're on an impossible angle and the only way to get it though is to try for the sideways bounce, kick the thing in the air, over the line. Balls don't tend to take bad bounces in the air.

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    1 minute ago, Ron Burgundy said:

    No changes other than for injury/fitness reasons.

    This side has a nice balance to it.

     

    no side can't be 'bettered"

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    3 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

    But Saty said he kicks it over 50m at training :wacko:

    He does, but that won't stop 3 or 4 pages of waffle after a good win    nobody want Omac dropped this week?

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    4 hours ago, Dee-licious said:

    I like that we waste time each week debating Hogan. We know he won't get dropped but we like to pretend because he hasn't signed for 5 years that Roos might drop him. 2nd year forward in the top 10 afl goal kickers - we persist because of the development and upside. 

     

    Harmes, Pedersen, and VDB will be discussed but unless Weid has a great week on the track or Salem has a blinder, no change. 

    Agreed.

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