Jump to content


Recommended Posts

Posted
2 hours ago, Radar Detector said:

Tom McDonald has class.

Yes agreed, he does.

Posted
58 minutes ago, Fifty-5 said:

Yes agreed, he does.

I rate him, but not sure that's one of his qualities.

Posted

Nothing good will come out of Hogan playing at Casey against physically weaker, less organised and inexperienced defenders.

Has to come in if fit. The team more than him need to sort things out. The delivery into F50 has been awful for most of this year. Kick to his advantage. Kick to other forwards to force their defenders to be accountable.

Posted
10 hours ago, S_T said:

Nothing good will come out of Hogan playing at Casey against physically weaker, less organised and inexperienced defenders.

Has to come in if fit. The team more than him need to sort things out. The delivery into F50 has been awful for most of this year. Kick to his advantage. Kick to other forwards to force their defenders to be accountable.

Nathan Jones was asked at the today's press interview whether they could find a spot for Hogan, and he replied: "oh come on, that's a drastic call. I think we can easily find a spot for him!"

 

 

Posted

It was great seeing Weids out there last weekend but I think if Hogan is fit to play he'll have to make way. Pedo is a big strong body than can help Hogan and also provides that chop out in the ruck for Gawn and Watts. 

Posted

How many 'chop-outs' did Pedo participate in last weekend?

Posted
4 hours ago, Spirit of '87 said:

Nathan Jones was asked at the today's press interview whether they could find a spot for Hogan, and he replied: "oh come on, that's a drastic call. I think we can easily find a spot for him!"

 

 

That's an unnecessary backhander from the skipper if true. How would Weids or Pedo feel hearing that?


Posted

I've never seen more threads derailed by one bloke on any forum before. Every single time. 

Anyway...

 

 

Harmes did way more good against the Hawks than bad. Yeah he butchers disposals but he does a lot of good and plays the way we are heading. Not an issue for me. 

 

Pedo is a career spare parts man. I think he knows his place, had a good game but makes way for a fit Hogan.

I agree with Wunders, from Jones' presser it really sounds like Weed and Hogan will be the combination we'll go with if both are fit. 

However, Weed had strapping on his thigh in the 2nd half, so that might be an issue. 

If Weed and Hogan are fit, Pedo out. 

 

I'm one that would find it hard to ever drop Garlett, his next game could always be a 4 goal game regardless of form. 

  • Like 9
Posted

Pedo should replace Weeds only because of his bigger body and that is assuming Hogan is in. Garlett is skating on thin ice but will stay,JKH bridging the gap.

Posted

The Harmes call for being dropped is crazy.. :wacko:

If some people actually watched the game they would have seen James Harmes completely shut down Luke Bruest. Yes he has to tidy up his disposal by he takes the game on and did a sterling job on Bruest that no doubt would have got the pats on the back from coaching staff.

  • Like 1
Posted
21 hours ago, stuie said:

Harmes has heart and determination in spades, but he definitely doesn't have "class" (yet). I liken him a bit to Chunk when he first came in, messy and a mile a minute, but Harmes strikes me as the sort of bloke that will work just as hard on his disposal and it will greatly improve. But from being at the game and watching the replay twice, he certainly does not have class.

Don't disagree with the analysis or the comparison to Jones' early days.

Having said that , he is offering more than enough that I wouldn't be dropping him.

I know it is hard on ANB but it means that when he gets his chance in the ones he has got to grab it with both hands.

  • Like 1
Posted
8 hours ago, CBDees said:

How many 'chop-outs' did Pedo participate in last weekend?

Well, he had 1 hitout, so not many.

 

Posted (edited)

The guy that made the most mistakes was Frost (made four in a row at one stage!) but they won't drop him. The Weed for Hogan. Let's hope Jeffy comes good this week although he played his role on Saturday.

Edited by dee-tox
Posted
28 minutes ago, dee-tox said:

The guy that made the most mistakes was Frost (made four in a row at one stage!) but they won't drop him. The Weed for Hogan. Let's hope Jeffy comes good this week although he played his role on Saturday.

I know he made some mistakes but he played a high risk high / high reward game.  he broke the lines a few times and set up a goal or two.   the players taking risks was the reason we won so I would certainly be keeping him in

Posted
1 minute ago, DubDee said:

I know he made some mistakes but he played a high risk high / high reward game.  he broke the lines a few times and set up a goal or two.   the players taking risks was the reason we won so I would certainly be keeping him in

In my opinion (stated just for you, Saty), one of the main reasons for our win was the relentless pressure applied by the back six (ie, Frost, McDonalds x 2, Harmes, Vince, Jetta and Hunt - I know that's seven players, but between them they rotated on/off). That pressure didn't just make life hard for the Hawthorn forwards but put immense pressure on the Hawk midfielders and defenders as the ball kept coming out of our backline relentlessly. Sure, there were some missed targets, but that's to be expected with an inexperienced team. If the back seven (whoever they might be as individuals) can improve their disposal even more, we'll win a lot more games than we lose.

What I find particularly exciting is that most of that backline are late draft picks. Each of the McDonalds, Hunt, Jetta and Harmes were later than pick 50. (As was Wagner and Mitch White). Kudos to the recruiters for their astute selections and to the development coaches for polishing the uncut stones.

 

  • Like 3
Posted
7 hours ago, Deestroy All said:

I've never seen more threads derailed by one bloke on any forum before. Every single time. 

Anyway...

 

 

Harmes did way more good against the Hawks than bad. Yeah he butchers disposals but he does a lot of good and plays the way we are heading. Not an issue for me. 

 

Pedo is a career spare parts man. I think he knows his place, had a good game but makes way for a fit Hogan.

I agree with Wunders, from Jones' presser it really sounds like Weed and Hogan will be the combination we'll go with if both are fit. 

However, Weed had strapping on his thigh in the 2nd half, so that might be an issue. 

If Weed and Hogan are fit, Pedo out. 

 

I'm one that would find it hard to ever drop Garlett, his next game could always be a 4 goal game regardless of form. 

Agree on all of that.  

Re: Garlett, I thought he was good anyway.  Looked to be playing further up the ground than normal in a similar role to Kent, which explains his lack of scoring.  He is credited with 4 inside 50s (equal most with Kent and, surprisingly, Frost), which supports it the idea that he played a lot of the game outside the 50.  He is also responsible for the kick that went down Kent's throat in the goal square, resulting in a goal, and the kick that led to the first Tyson goal which won us the game.  Nothing wrong with his form at all IMO.

  • Like 5
Posted
7 minutes ago, Nasher said:

Agree on all of that.  

Re: Garlett, I thought he was good anyway.  Looked to be playing further up the ground than normal in a similar role to Kent, which explains his lack of scoring.  He is credited with 4 inside 50s (equal most with Kent and, surprisingly, Frost), which supports it the idea that he played a lot of the game outside the 50.  He is also responsible for the kick that went down Kent's throat in the goal square, resulting in a goal, and the kick that led to the first Tyson goal which won us the game.  Nothing wrong with his form at all IMO.

Fairly sure it's the first time in weeks Garlett had a run in the middle for a while, and he did some important things there. Not sure if he's had a fitness concern that has prevented it, but he almost always has an impact during those short stints in the middle so needs to keep happening IMO.

 

  • Like 2

Posted
9 hours ago, SaberFang said:

That's an unnecessary backhander from the skipper if true. How would Weids or Pedo feel hearing that?

They'd feel like Hogan was our premier forward.  If that came as a surprise to either of them, I'd be raising serious questions over their IQ.  

Both players would know their place.  As DA said: Pedersen has been a spare parts man all his career, he should be well used to this situation by now.  It would still sure beat working for a living; if he can keep delivering when required, he puts off having to actually go and do that for a bit longer.  

  • Like 9
Posted
17 hours ago, stuie said:

Yeah, that's what I would do, I don't expect it to be what happens though. I really like Harmesy, but just after being there and watching the replay a couple of times I realized he was pretty wasteful with the ball, it's a bit all or nothing, so I'd leave him out to make way for ANB to have 2 games as a decent crack.

 

His chase and tackle of Sicily in the last qtr was massive. Game saver 

Posted
Just now, Demons11 said:

His chase and tackle of Sicily in the last qtr was massive. Game saver 

As I said, love his effort and heart, think he'll become very good for us, but throughout the game he was often wasteful with his disposal and it cost us. As Nasher has said before though, it seems Roos values effort and buying in into the play on at all costs game plan, more than clean disposal, so I don't think he will be dropped, I'm just saying it's a change I would make for this game if I was coach. To me, against a quick team like Port, having too many poor users could be more costly than it was against the Hawks, despite them being a far better team. Port have exploited our turnovers in a big way before and I can see it happening again this week if we're messy. Plus, admittedly I have a soft spot for ANB and would love to see his amazing VFL form get rewarded with a decent chance before the season is out.

 

  • Like 1
Posted
36 minutes ago, stuie said:

Fairly sure it's the first time in weeks Garlett had a run in the middle for a while, and he did some important things there. Not sure if he's had a fitness concern that has prevented it, but he almost always has an impact during those short stints in the middle so needs to keep happening IMO.

 

I like his speed in the midfield, as with Kent. While I wasnt "happy" with Garlett's performance from what I saw he had a bigger impact on Saturday than his previous few weeks. Would like him to get back on the scoreboard more but at least he was involved in the game. 

  • Like 1
Posted
3 minutes ago, ArtificialWisdom said:

I like his speed in the midfield, as with Kent. While I wasnt "happy" with Garlett's performance from what I saw he had a bigger impact on Saturday than his previous few weeks. Would like him to get back on the scoreboard more but at least he was involved in the game. 

Agree. He's a confidence player, so I'm wondering if that lack of time on the ball lately has impacted his confidence and effected his scoring output? Either way, good to see him being used in the middle again. I noticed Hunt run in off the square a fair bit too, so we're definitely trying tp push more pace in.

  • Like 1
Posted
3 minutes ago, stuie said:

Agree. He's a confidence player, so I'm wondering if that lack of time on the ball lately has impacted his confidence and effected his scoring output? Either way, good to see him being used in the middle again. I noticed Hunt run in off the square a fair bit too, so we're definitely trying tp push more pace in.

The still seem to play Hunt off the HBF but he seems to have the a licence to play furthest up the ground because he has the pace to transition fast. He runs as hard back as anyone and with his pace it's a fantastic weapon. That almost chace down of bruest would have been fantastic his closing speed was just too fast for his own good. 

  • Like 1
Posted
On 08/08/2016 at 9:28 AM, Radar Detector said:

Can't understand people calling for Hogan to wait another week. If fit, he plays.

Pedersen did a decent job but let's not inflate his output too much. From my recollection he only had one touch for the entire first half. He had less ball and kicked less goals than Weed. Plus Weed is the future.

Hogan in, Pedersen out. Only other change I would consider is BenKen in for Garlett but that depends on the mood of the selectors.

Yes on Hogan.  Definite yes on Ben Ken. Garletts been off the boil and when we brought Ben Ken back from a stint at Casey earlier on in the season, he played a very good game (cant remember the opponent ) Weed to stay for more experience.looking to the future.

We can win this one !!!!!!

 

 

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Unfortunately, your content contains terms that we do not allow. Please edit your content to remove the highlighted words below.
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
  • Demonland Forums  

  • Match Previews, Reports & Articles  

    TRAINING: Friday 22nd November 2024

    Demonland Trackwatchers were out in force on a scorching morning out at Gosch's Paddock for the final session before the whole squad reunites for the Preseason Training Camp. DEMONLAND'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS It’s going to be a scorcher today but I’m in the shade at Gosch’s Paddock ready to bring you some observations from the final session before the Preseason Training Camp next week.  Salem, Fritsch & Campbell are already on the track. Still no number on Campbell’s

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports 2

    UP IN LIGHTS by Whispering Jack

    Those who watched the 2024 Marsh AFL National Championships closely this year would not be particularly surprised that Melbourne selected Victoria Country pair Harvey Langford and Xavier Lindsay on the first night of the AFL National Draft. The two left-footed midfielders are as different as chalk and cheese but they had similar impacts in their Coates Talent League teams and in the National Championships in 2024. Their interstate side was edged out at the very end of the tournament for tea

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Special Features

    TRAINING: Wednesday 20th November 2024

    It’s a beautiful cool morning down at Gosch’s Paddock and I’ve arrived early to bring you my observations from today’s session. DEMONLAND'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS Reigning Keith Bluey Truscott champion Jack Viney is the first one out on the track.  Jack’s wearing the red version of the new training guernsey which is the only version available for sale at the Demon Shop. TRAINING: Viney, Clarry, Lever, TMac, Rivers, Petty, McVee, Bowey, JVR, Hore, Tom Campbell (in tr

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports

    TRAINING: Monday 18th November 2024

    Demonland Trackwatchers ventured down to Gosch's Paddock for the final week of training for the 1st to 4th Years until they are joined by the rest of the senior squad for Preseason Training Camp in Mansfield next week. WAYNE RUSSELL'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS No Ollie, Chin, Riv today, but Rick & Spargs turned up and McDonald was there in casual attire. Seston, and Howes did a lot of boundary running, and Tom Campbell continued his work with individual trainer in non-MFC

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports

    2024 Player Reviews: #11 Max Gawn

    Champion ruckman and brilliant leader, Max Gawn earned his seventh All-Australian team blazer and constantly held the team up on his shoulders in what was truly a difficult season for the Demons. Date of Birth: 30 December 1991 Height: 209cm Games MFC 2024: 21 Career Total: 224 Goals MFC 2024: 11 Career Total: 109 Brownlow Medal Votes: 13 Melbourne Football Club: 2nd Best & Fairest: 405 votes

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 12

    2024 Player Reviews: #36 Kysaiah Pickett

    The Demons’ aggressive small forward who kicks goals and defends the Demons’ ball in the forward arc. When he’s on song, he’s unstoppable but he did blot his copybook with a three week suspension in the final round. Date of Birth: 2 June 2001 Height: 171cm Games MFC 2024: 21 Career Total: 106 Goals MFC 2024: 36 Career Total: 161 Brownlow Medal Votes: 3 Melbourne Football Club: 4th Best & Fairest: 369 votes

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 5

    TRAINING: Friday 15th November 2024

    Demonland Trackwatchers took advantage of the beautiful sunshine to head down to Gosch's Paddock and witness the return of Clayton Oliver to club for his first session in the lead up to the 2025 season. DEMONLAND'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS Clarry in the house!! Training: JVR, McVee, Windsor, Tholstrup, Woey, Brown, Petty, Adams, Chandler, Turner, Bowey, Seston, Kentfield, Laurie, Sparrow, Viney, Rivers, Jefferson, Hore, Howes, Verrall, AMW, Clarry Tom Campbell is here

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports

    2024 Player Reviews: #7 Jack Viney

    The tough on baller won his second Keith 'Bluey' Truscott Trophy in a narrow battle with skipper Max Gawn and Alex Neal-Bullen and battled on manfully in the face of a number of injury niggles. Date of Birth: 13 April 1994 Height: 178cm Games MFC 2024: 23 Career Total: 219 Goals MFC 2024: 10 Career Total: 66 Brownlow Medal Votes: 8

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 3

    TRAINING: Wednesday 13th November 2024

    A couple of Demonland Trackwatchers braved the rain and headed down to Gosch's paddock to bring you their observations from the second day of Preseason training for the 1st to 4th Year players. DITCHA'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS I attended some of the training today. Richo spoke to me and said not to believe what is in the media, as we will good this year. Jefferson and Kentfield looked big and strong.  Petty was doing all the training. Adams looked like he was in rehab.  KE

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports
  • Tell a friend

    Love Demonland? Tell a friend!

×
×
  • Create New...