6 minutes ago, P-man said:

The point remains that I don't believe he is finished at AFL level.

I was like you before the St Kilda game.

It's genuinely upsetting to write Grimes off because you can tell he works harder than anyone and is a great guy, but he just no longer has what it takes to play good consistent football at AFL level.

2 minutes ago, Clint Bizkit said:

I was like you before the St Kilda game.

It's genuinely upsetting to write Grimes off because you can tell he works harder than anyone and is a great guy, but he just no longer has what it takes to play good consistent football at AFL level.

Agree unfortunately. Nobody enjoys putting a pen through Jack's name, but he's not taking us forward.

Edited July 30, 20169 yr by Tough Kent

2 hours ago, Axis of Bob said:

As far as future prospects go, I really like the look of Joel Smith. Excellent pace, good size and very composed.

Full marks to the encouraging young blokes down on the fence who were calling him "SOS" every time he ran past.

"Nice goal SOS!!!" 

Grimes will not play another game for the MFC. He will, however, be picked up by another club. Richmond almost certainly is first in line.

 

Everyone seems to think that Grimes will get picked up by Richmond, I assume because his brother plays there, well that's about as logical as Prestia coming to Melbourne because his mum and dad barrack for Melbourne.

I would think that Richmond will go the youth path and doubt they would be interested in a player who has failed at another club, they've done that too often in the past.

Will he get another contract, not sure but whatever, I hope he gets another gig if he does get delisted by us.

16 minutes ago, SaberFang said:

Grimes will not play another game for the MFC. He will, however, be picked up by another club. Richmond almost certainly is first in line.

Hopefully not Richmond, their feral fans will turn on him after a couple of games when they see all his turnovers.

14 minutes ago, Clint Bizkit said:

I was like you before the St Kilda game.

It's genuinely upsetting to write Grimes off because you can tell he works harder than anyone and is a great guy, but he just no longer has what it takes to play good consistent football at AFL level.

I admit I believe in depth players like Grimes and Michie more than most on here. Right now, the VFL ladder is backing up that belief. They are certainly a major step up from the Pigdogs and Couchs of previous years.

I see great potential in ANB. I don't see the sense in letting Vanders stroll back in when he's stunk it up for the majority of the season. He should've been made to earn his spot back.

Some are not afforded one average game, whereas others are afforded several in a row. I think performances should be assessed equally to determine the best 22 players every week and that simply isn't happening.

Anyway, I've bashed this drum more than enough times.

I don't like the treatment of ANB by the selection panel either, but he's clearly not doing what the coaches are instructing (whatever that is).

 

25 minutes ago, SaberFang said:

Grimes will not play another game for the MFC. He will, however, be picked up by another club. Richmond almost certainly is first in line.

Yes Jack is guaranteed to get a 2nd chance. Not "good enough" apparently yet many others such as Garlett, Vandenburg, Dawes play poorly for Casey yet get selected ??? !!!??? 

Hunt had a good 4 weeks than very average in last 3 weeks. O.Mcdonald has had 8 poor games in the last 9 weeks. Development is the reason afforded but it does lead to losses being tolerated.

16 minutes ago, SaberFang said:

I don't like the treatment of ANB by the selection panel either, but he's clearly not doing what the coaches are instructing (whatever that is).

 

I think he is a gun inside mid. Problem is to play inside mud for the 1s he has to be better then tyson viney jones etc.

He is a very good player. And I've jumped on him as my but but he needs to develop some fitness and outside game.

I hope he can have a big pre season and cement a spot in 2017

3 hours ago, Axis of Bob said:

As far as future prospects go, I really like the look of Joel Smith. Excellent pace, good size and very composed.

I watched a preseason match sim session earlier this year where a thin newbie ran back after an overlap kick, leapt high in the air and got an intercept hand on an otherwise unstoppable ball. Then he followed up to reverse the ball back the other way. Received much praise from his teammates. I had no idea who he was and had to ask around. Todd Viney and some of the assistants on the boundary were looking at each other smiling in amazement.

It was Joel Smith.

He looked very light and understandably had no tank for repeat running, but did quite a few things that showed he has a good football brain and a freakish leap.

Don't know yet if he will make it, but I'm a fan already. Hope he gets a few AFL games next year.

Another 18 months and he'll be a regular IMO.  From an athletic perspective he has all the attributes, speed, endurance, height and huge leap.  His skill level is good considering he only returned to footy recently.  It's just a coaching development thing.  I have faith in the guys developing our talent.  He will make it.

I'm a Grimey fan he just keeps on putting in. Feel sorry for him. 1st in if we get done tomorrow.

2 hours ago, Samael said:

No he wasn't. Michie was by a mile and has been in the best 2 for the last 4 games. He was terrific again today but I realise that he has been written of on this blog. He will do well in Casey's b&F and at 50's for the Liston is worth a few bob on winning that as well, particularly ass he will play the rest of the season at Casey. Missed by 2 votes last year (from 8 games when the winner played 18). Michie played HBF for the whole game and still kicked 2.

Yep - as I said in a previous thread, there won't be a lot of time in between him sitting down with Goodwin who will say "thanks for trying, good luck after footy" and winning the Casey B&F, which he should do by the sounds.  I know you (and others such as P-Man) believe he's been hard done by; I just think he's an unfortunate victim of the harsh reality of professional sport: if those behind the steering wheel don't believe in you, you won't get a lot chance to prove them wrong, and failure becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.  There are only 22 places in the team and they're always going to pick the team they think is best, that's their job at the end of the day.

Either way, there's not much justice in the world for players like Michie.  Best of luck to him.

Edit: and for what it's worth, he's got some pretty good company in that boat with two former MFC captains.

2 hours ago, Samael said:

No he wasn't. Michie was by a mile and has been in the best 2 for the last 4 games. He was terrific again today but I realise that he has been written of on this blog. He will do well in Casey's b&F and at 50's for the Liston is worth a few bob on winning that as well, particularly ass he will play the rest of the season at Casey. Missed by 2 votes last year (from 8 games when the winner played 18). Michie played HBF for the whole game and still kicked 2.

If I was a betting man I would put some money on him for the Liston...he had another great game today.

6 minutes ago, Nasher said:

Yep - as I said in a previous thread, there won't be a lot of time in between him sitting down with Goodwin who will say "thanks for trying, good luck after footy" and winning the Casey B&F, which he should do by the sounds.  I know you (and others such as P-Man) believe he's been hard done by; I just think he's an unfortunate victim of the harsh reality of professional sport: if those behind the steering wheel don't believe in you, you won't get a lot chance to prove them wrong.  There are only 22 places in the team and they're always going to pick the team they think is best, that's their job at the end of the day.

Either way, there's not much justice in the world for players like Michie.  Best of luck to him.

Dead right. Cruel world.

2 hours ago, Clint Bizkit said:

I was like you before the St Kilda game.

It's genuinely upsetting to write Grimes off because you can tell he works harder than anyone and is a great guy, but he just no longer has what it takes to play good consistent football at AFL level.

 

2 hours ago, Tough Kent said:

Agree unfortunately. Nobody enjoys putting a pen through Jack's name, but he's not taking us forward.

and, we may be holding him back from finding his mojo again.

Just now, DV8 said:

 

and, we may be holding him back from finding his mojo again.

Ok, let's hope the 27 year old Grimes who lacks a yard and makes questionable decisions with the footy on a regular basis can turn his game around at the top level. 

8 minutes ago, rjay said:

If I was a betting man I would put some money on him for the Liston...he had another great game today.

Yep. I don't bet either but he has been terrific for the last 4 or 5 weeks and been named in the best for the last 8 games. May be worth breaking my duck (is that the right saying?)

A quick scan through this post leads me to ask - did Hulett play? If so, how did he go? If not, why not?

2 minutes ago, monoccular said:

A quick scan through this post leads me to ask - did Hulett play? If so, how did he go? If not, why not?

He was alright. Wind played havoc with the ball and did not help the big fellas but he is going to be good. Somebody to kick to in the forward line. Weed was also good today. Real good.

It seems all the VFL grounds are in wind tunnels. Every week we hear how conditions didn't favour the big men.

2 minutes ago, chook fowler said:

It seems all the VFL grounds are in wind tunnels. Every week we hear how conditions didn't favour the big men.

Today was not so bad (except the bacon sandwiches were horrible) but last week and the Bulldogs games would have stressed the Concorde. 

5 minutes ago, chook fowler said:

It seems all the VFL grounds are in wind tunnels. Every week we hear how conditions didn't favour the big men.

I have watched the last 3 games. The Footscray game had a wind that comfortably favoured one end by 5-6 goals. The Sandy game out at Cranbourne last week was easily a 4 goal wind to the right of screen. Today, a 3 goal wind also blew to the right of vision. I'd have hated to have been a tall forward in any of the three games.

Edited July 30, 20169 yr by Tough Kent

34 minutes ago, Nasher said:

Yep - as I said in a previous thread, there won't be a lot of time in between him sitting down with Goodwin who will say "thanks for trying, good luck after footy" and winning the Casey B&F, which he should do by the sounds.  I know you (and others such as P-Man) believe he's been hard done by; I just think he's an unfortunate victim of the harsh reality of professional sport: if those behind the steering wheel don't believe in you, you won't get a lot chance to prove them wrong, and failure becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.  There are only 22 places in the team and they're always going to pick the team they think is best, that's their job at the end of the day.

Either way, there's not much justice in the world for players like Michie.  Best of luck to him.

Edit: and for what it's worth, he's got some pretty good company in that boat with two former MFC captains.

Was only thinking this today at Coburg.