Jump to content
  • Podcast:      

KC from Casey

COBURG v CASEY SCORPIONS

Recommended Posts

8 minutes ago, The heart beats true said:

You guys are so biased towards Grimes. The bloke has had 100 games to prove his worth, and honestly he hasn't shown what it takes to be valuable to the team in the modern game.

Kennedy has 70 odd less games and 4 years on him. 

He left collingwood becauise he could not get a regular game.

He cannot get a regular game at Melbourne.

There is a simularity there.

 

Edited by old dee

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Kennedy was averaging 17 touches and just under a goal a game, and is a renowned competitor. Just because he's playing VFL at the minute doesn't mean he's not good enough for AFL. 

  • Like 6

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
12 minutes ago, old dee said:

Kennedy is your classic too good for VFL not good enough for AFL.

And to top it off he is too short.

Tell that to Caleb Daniel 

  • Like 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
3 minutes ago, Sylvia Saint said:

Kennedy was averaging 17 touches and just under a goal a game, and is a renowned competitor. Just because he's playing VFL at the minute doesn't mean he's not good enough for AFL. 

So after a good game last week why is he not playing topmorrow?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
2 minutes ago, chook fowler said:

Tell that to Caleb Daniel 

Chook see my previous comment.

If you are short you have to be very good.

He is not very good.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Kennedy is a hard nut who excels at VFL level, he is still young enough to have an upside. He has already played some good games at AFL level. He is a keeper!

  • Like 4

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
9 minutes ago, old dee said:

It is if you are not very good.

If you are short you need to be very good at AFL to make it.

He is not very good.

Then he would just be tall and not very good.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Is a bloke being too short the same as a bloke being not long enough?

Edited by Bitter but optimistic
  • Like 3

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
3 minutes ago, old dee said:

Chook see my previous comment.

If you are short you have to be very good.

He is not very good.

Fair enough but I still think he has some upside. Time will tell

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
6 minutes ago, old dee said:

So after a good game last week why is he not playing topmorrow?

Because we have one, yes one (and debatable at that) player missing from our best 22 at present. That means some perfectly capable AFL players will miss out. There's a difference between not being in side's best 22 and not being up to AFL level. Kennedy has played 15 games this year and done ok. 

  • Like 4

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

34 minutes ago, old dee said:

Agree Dante.

If Grimes  cannot get a game 39 disposals then why should Kennedy?

you have to factor in that a lot of players in this game got high disposal figures and the opposition was woeful

however, agreed grimes has consistently racked up the disposals and must be feeling overlooked

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
50 minutes ago, Dante said:

 

Grimes is making it hard for the selectors to ignore him.  Would love to know his disposal average over the last 6 Casey games.

 

Trenners is also putting his case forward.

 

 

The MFC brains trust understands the difference between AFL level footy and VFL footy.  They'll remember his last AFL game, which exposed his deficiencies.  He could have 50 disposals in the VFL and it wouldn't excite me.  Grimes is finished at AFL level. 

Oliver is a different kettle of fish.  His attributes are fantastic at any level. 

Ben Kennedy is an exceptional VFL player and can contribute at AFL level, but I doubt he'll ever be more than a fringe player in a good team. 

Edited by ProDee
  • Like 7

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, KC from Casey said:

It's all over with the Scorpions winning in a canter by 78 points

Casey Scorpions 2.9.21 6.12.48 14.17.101 16.20.116

Coburg 1.0.6 3.0.18 4.0.24 6.2.38

Goals

Casey Scorpions Terlich Weideman 3 Michie Neal-Bullen 2 D Collis Kennedy Pedersen Scott J Smith Trengove

Coburg Saad 3 Hill Posar Ronke

Best

Casey Scorpions Newton Michie Neal-Bullen Weideman Terlich Keilty

Coburg Lehmann Fox Hunt Featherstone Kovacevic Gregory

Disposals Grimes Kennedy 39 Oliver 36 Newton 34 Michie Trengove 30 Morris 26 Terlich 25

Interesting that the top three possession getters didn't make the best players.

I know Oliver's still very much an inside player and the club wants him to become a more well rounded footballer but surely he's done enough to earn a recall for next week when Melbourne comes off yet another six day break?

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Weideman named 4th best, anyone have his stats?  Besides the 3 goals

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, ProDee said:

The MFC brains trust understands the difference between AFL level footy and VFL footy.  They'll remember his last AFL game, which exposed his deficiencies.  He could have 50 disposals in the VFL and it wouldn't excite me.  Grimes is finished at AFL level. 

No he isn't.

If the club lets him go, as looks increasingly likely, he will get a fresh start elsewhere and it wouldn't surprise me at all if he is a regular contributor in a halfback role.

He had a poor game against Saints. He was pushed forward more as I recall which ultimately didn't suit him. He was in healthy company that day but isn't afforded the leniency that others get. The week before he was more than decent.

So of his two opportunities he had one good, one bad, and out he goes. Still, at least they got him to 100 games.

If no club picks up a player like Grimes I'll be amazed. Is he really that much worse than Jed Adcock, for example? Age wise he is at his peak as a footballer and on today's evidence he'd arguably be one of Richmond's top handful of players at the minute.

Edited by P-man

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
3 hours ago, olisik said:

He kicks one and does next to nothing else and now his Wayne Carey? Jesus Christ.....pretty sure 99.9% of people right now would align him more to Lucas Cook then Wayne Carey.

 

Just hope he hasnt been watching too much of Dawes marking methods. Certainly not a one grabber at this point :-S

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
20 minutes ago, P-man said:

No he isn't.

If the club lets him go, as looks increasingly likely, he will get a fresh start everywhere and it wouldn't surprise me at all if he is a regular contributor in a halfback role.

He had a poor game against Saints. He was pushed forward more as I recall which ultimately didn't suit him. He was in healthy company that day but isn't afforded the leniency that others get. The week before he was more than decent.

So of his two opportunities he had one good, one bad, and out he goes. Still, at least they got him to 100 games.

If no club picks up a player like Grimes I'll be amazed. Is he really that much worse than Jed Adcock, for example? Age wise he is at his peak as a footballer and on today's evidence he'd arguably be one of Richmond's top handful of players at the minute.

If a club takes Grimes it is because he is an FA and they get him for free.  I doubt they would trade for him. 

Edited by Lucifer's Hero

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

4 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

If a club takes Grimes it is because he is an FA and they get him for free.  I doubt they would trade for him. 

The point remains that I don't believe he is finished at AFL level.

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
51 minutes ago, Whispering_Jack said:

Interesting that the top three possession getters didn't make the best players.

I know Oliver's still very much an inside player and the club wants him to become a more well rounded footballer but surely he's done enough to earn a recall for next week when Melbourne comes off yet another six day break?

I guess it depends on how the team plays tomz ?

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
25 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Jack Grimes was BOG again today... as he was last week (will poll very well in the VFL best & fairest). 

No he wasn't. Michie was by a mile and has been in the best 2 for the last 4 games. He was terrific again today but I realise that he has been written of on this blog. He will do well in Casey's b&F and at 50's for the Liston is worth a few bob on winning that as well, particularly ass he will play the rest of the season at Casey. Missed by 2 votes last year (from 8 games when the winner played 18). Michie played HBF for the whole game and still kicked 2.

  • Like 4

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, old dee said:

It is if you are not very good.

If you are short you need to be very good at AFL to make it.

He is not very good.

Correct, for his size he needs to have elite finishing skills, he doesn't. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.


  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    No registered users viewing this page.

  • Social Media

  • Match Previews, Reports & Articles

    QUEENS BIRTHDAY BLOCKBUSTER by Bananabender

    A little known fact for Victorians is that Queenslanders don’t celebrate the Queen's Birthday in June but rather in October. The scheduled date on this year’s calendar is 5 October, 2020. However, I have a suggestion for Premier Annastacia Palaszczuk and that is to move the date forward a month and a half to this Saturday so that the coming clash of traditional rivals, Melbourne and Collingwood, continues a longstanding tradition of our game — the Queen’s Birthday Blockbuster. Her Majesty w

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Previews

    THE TORRENS THUMPING 2.0 by George on the Outer

    Once again the banks of Adelaide’s Torrens River witnessed the Melbourne Football Club handing out another on-field thumping to its opponent. This time the hapless victim was North Melbourne and given it was only the club’s second win against them since 2007, it was a very satisfying outcome. The Demons got off to a slow start once again, looking listless from their four day break, a situation that wasn’t helped by Sam Weideman and Christian Petracca missing easy set shots. At the first bre

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Reports

    THE 2020 EQUATION by Whispering Jack

    The 2020 equation is simple for the Melbourne Football Club – it must keep winning and it must take some big scalps during the second half of the season without dropping games against the lesser lights. The Demons have gone down this season to the 1st, 3rd, 4th, 5th and 6th teams on the ladder including twice by less than a goal in games that could easily have gone the other way. Against that, they have beaten 11th, 13th, 14th and 18th and though they thumped the Crows during the week, the

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Previews

    THE TORRENS THUMPING by George on the Outer

    THE TORRENS THUMPING - LEAVING THE DEMONS BEHIND That headline might lead a reader to think that Melbourne had lost badly in Adelaide but no!  It was actually the MFC which left it’s demons from the previous week behind as it applied the blowtorch to the Crows in the final quarter of their match at the Adelaide Oval and went on their merry way to record a 51 point win before their biggest crowd of the year (even if they were mainly hostile). Much had been made in the media about t

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Reports

    STATE OF DEESASTER by the Oracle

    Melbourne’s circus caravan rolls into Adelaide on Wednesday night, an event that will put shivers up the spine of every Crows’ supporter as they look directly into the face of disaster. The flakey Demons left their home town a month ago and proceeded to rough up the Gold Coast Suns and Hawthorn in Sydney before moving on to the sunny Queensland where they missed by a bee’s diaphragm against the more or less local second-on-ladder Brisbane Lions. Then, they had to butter up against the top t

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Previews

    OVERPOWERED by George on the Outer

    In a dismal display against Port Adelaide, Melbourne showed it had learnt nothing from their previous week’s loss to Brisbane. Port, in contrast, after losing to St.Kilda, addressed their failings, and as a result made the Demons look like a second-rate side.  Melbourne failed to score a goal in the first quarter, and the first time it seriously troubled the goal umpire was saved until a minute before half-time.  Did it get any better?  No with their meagre three goals for the sec

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Reports

    DESPERATION OF THE MOMENT by Whispering Jack

    Melbourne’s recent win against Hawthorn highlighted how important Max Gawn’s ruck domination is for the team. A week later however, that domination continued but its effect was totally blunted by the Brisbane Lions midfield and, as a consequence, what could have been an easy win over a leading AFL contender turned into a disappointing but close loss and a sense of desperation now looms over the club as the halfway mark of the season approaches. This week’s opponent in Port Adelaide also und

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Previews

    THE FOUR POINT FAIL by George on the Outer

    Melbourne went down by 4 points in a thrilling finish against Brisbane, but they failed by more than the 4 points.     They also failed to score the 4 points necessary to keep them in the race for the finals, and now find themselves sitting 6 points outside the top 8, but effectively 2 games outside (even though they have a game in hand).   The Demons had more than enough opportunities to win.  Six very easy shots on goal failed to bother the goal umpire with a major and ultimate

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Reports

    NORTH OF THE BORDER PART 2 by The Oracle

    The travelling COVID circus moves north of the border yet again and, unless at some time in the near future, Papua New Guinea opens its borders, this could be the last time this phenomenon happens. And as fortune would dictate, the resurgent Demons are walking directly into the sights of the locals from the bright lights of Brizvegas to Carrara - the scene of some long-forgotten (and deservedly so) battles with one of the Lions’ former incarnations, namely, the Brisbane Bears. But unli

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Previews

    ON THE NOSE by George on the Outer

    One of the Hawthorn Football Club’s valued sponsors is Azep® Nasal Spray and given the thrashing handed out to the Hawks in today’s game, it would appear that they need a huge supply of the sponsor’s product because they are simply on the nose. This condition was caused by the sheer dominance of the Demons, led magnificently by skipper Max Gawn with 27 hitouts and 22 disposals including two clearances. Around him in the middle were Christian Petracca with 29 touches, Clayton Oliver (also on

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Reports

    THE PREMIER LEAGUE by Whispering Jack

    So the new man under the pump is Clarko, which demonstrates how sad but predictable the football media is these days. In an age where each AFL team’s form can be topsy turvy and unpredictability is the order of the day, the coach of a team that has played five out of the top six teams from the previous season and sits with a 3/3 win loss record is this week’s whipping boy.   This comes admittedly on the back of a bad fortnight from the Hawks who in recent years have exhibited an enormous

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Previews

    SUNSMART by George on the Outer

    If you don’t want to get sunburnt, you follow the Sunsmart rules.  Melbourne took the advice and with their season on the line, avoided getting burnt by the Gold Coast Suns, with a gripping 17 point win. It was a match that could have gone either way, with the sides within a kick of each other for all but the final minutes of the final quarter. Melbourne had stretched the lead earlier in the game to 18 points, but that quickly evaporated to a neck and neck race to the finish.  Finally,

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Reports

×
×
  • Create New...