POST MATCH DISCUSSION - Round 18

[reynolds46 1,229]

Do you think we could shop Hogan around while we are still in the west while he still has some perceived value?

[Adam The God 30,110]

1 minute ago, Dannyz said:

The ball use of Harmes today gives plenty of hope that he could become the polished ball user we are lacking in the back half. 

Really? I must have completely missed that. His first half was horrible.

[PaulRB 6,336]

Hopefully it will sting the players as much as us and they'll take that venom, learn and grow meaner as a result.

Maxy certainly looked annoyed in the last and I reckon a few of them will be feeling it.

[Brownie 5,969]

42 minutes ago, Biffen said:

We played better football all day.

The missed shots were the issue as the score shows.

The umpiring in that last quarter needs a review by the AFL.

The meth coast just raise their arms when they want a free.we never do.

I am trying to be philosophical about this one but I don't think we could have played much better.

The one against Gawn, the deliberate, the 70 metre 50.the high one against Jones were not there to pay- they were crowd kicks.

I just hope that when we become dominant we never forget the sort of extra crap we had to do to get there.i want us to crush this scum next time.

Take your mine pit and form your own parochial shyte nation you rednecked backwards inbred westralian pigs.

Kent got cleaned up after kicking the ball in to our 50 as well in the last. should have been down field free.

we blew it in the 3rd with our kicking.

the umps put us to the sword in the last.

we played some breathtaking footy today at times and really applied some fantastic pressure for most of the game.

it was a great game of footy. fmd

[Cheap Seats 3,310]

1 minute ago, Brownie said:

Kent got cleaned up after kicking the ball in to our 50 as well in the last. should have been down field free.

we blew it in the 3rd with our kicking.

the umps put us to the sword in the last.

we played some breathtaking footy today at times and really applied some fantastic pressure for most of the game.

it was a great game of footy. fmd

That kent non free spot on.

Umpiring inconsistency is so frustrating.

Also was gawns hanball smothered? The one that was paid deliberate? I cbf going back to look

[Demonsone 2,032]

Mcdonald learn how to kick!!!!!!!

FFS missing targets with no  pressure!!!

Edited July 23, 2016 by Hogan2014

[Ricky P 757]

27 minutes ago, Biffen said:

The smother in the last was as good as it gets. The resulting missed shot was average by Dawes.

watts was huge in the last quarter.

Unbelievable repeat efforts.

Did a lot things right today but he'll be filthy on himself for missing that set shot in the third and the snap in the last. Those shots were bread and butter for Wattsy.

[Powell 52]

7 minutes ago, reynolds46 said:

Do you think we could shop Hogan around while we are still in the west while he still has some perceived value?

Nope.

[bjDee 1,249]

12 minutes ago, Deevout said:

Had to turn the tv off as soon as it was over. I am so over listening to the commentators basically saying, Melbounre played well but they did what we always knew they would do, LOSE.

Thought I would get thrown out of my hotel room account noise and language.

Bring on next week.

 

I'm sure if you keep paying Biff the usual 'rent' then he won't throw you out of the Gat for a simple misunderstanding about noise, broken remotes, windows, etc.

Edited July 23, 2016 by bjDee

[junk 342]

Another hoodoo kept in tack. We done Dees.

[bjDee 1,249]

59 minutes ago, Moonshadow said:

Should've won given the lop-sided stats, but apparently the score was the score and in an alternative reality we might've won. But we shouldn't have won because we lost....

 

Moonie, you sure you haven't had a recent visit from Ben Cousins?

[Earl Hood 6,082]

22 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

Very much a heartbreaking loss.  No doubt about it.  I think the match winners are, potentially, there with more game time.  Petracca does some fantastic things.  Viney never gives in.  Gus is playing his best footy of the year, and we are a better side with him there.  We know Hogan can kick multiple goals and, like the others, as he gets older he will know how to do it more often.

It's a hard pill to swallow, but it's fact.

Our game plan doesn't help us win close ones. Too much handball which means we overuse the ball and increase the odds of intercepts, turnovers, plain mistakes etc. we also move the ball into the corridor in our back half and using too much handball means if there is a turnover we get screwed. We are not fast nor overly skilled, so we need to use the ball by foot a lot more. 

[Dr. Gonzo 24,129]

1 hour ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

Don't give me any positive [censored].   Once again we proved what a spiritless [censored] up club we've become.

We should've won by 5 goals- whatever that was it wasn't spiritless.

[Wiseblood 24,637]

2 minutes ago, Earl Hood said:

Our game plan doesn't help us win close ones. Too much handball which means we overuse the ball and increase the odds of intercepts, turnovers, plain mistakes etc. we also move the ball into the corridor in our back half and using too much handball means if there is a turnover we get screwed. We are not fast nor overly skilled, so we need to use the ball by foot a lot more. 

I think you're right about the game plan as it stands.  However, you would hope that as they get older and more games into the legs they would be able to assess these situations a little better - such as getting the ball forward a little quicker, hitting that target under pressure and kicking key goals that give us the breathing room.

Our side at the moment lacks in those areas, but with more experience that should get better.

Edited July 23, 2016 by Wiseblood

[Wizza 170]

Tough one to swallow, although couldn't fault our pressure and desire. 

[Adam The God 30,110]

21 minutes ago, PaulRB said:

Hopefully it will sting the players as much as us and they'll take that venom, learn and grow meaner as a result.

Maxy certainly looked annoyed in the last and I reckon a few of them will be feeling it.

I was hopeful of that after the Essendon loss. Hasn't really sunk in. Let's hope it does after this week.

[Nasher 33,607]

1 hour ago, olisik said:

WHY DO WE FUCKEN SLIP OVER SO MUCH?

 

no other teams slip over as much as we do ffs.

Cos it was wet?

Come on man, did you only see Melbourne players out there?  West Coast were the slip over, fumble the ball, turn it over kings.  Top 8 side, apparently.

Wet game, olisik moans about about players slipping over.  FMD.

[beelzebub 23,313]

1 minute ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

We should've won by 5 goals- whatever that was it wasn't spiritless.

What is it then, if not spirit. There was a win for the taking today. Real teams find that way to do it. They grind until the cogs line up ( eventually) andyou can change up and get over the libelibe by sheer force of will. 

We didn't. Never seem to. We do indeed have a problem with spiri, or call it whatever you like. 

[dl4e 5,851]

I am trying to remember Melbourne dominating a game for so much time and losing it. We creamed them around the ground but blew it. Sad.

[Guest]

This is a very good young football side that will be very hard to beat soon enough.

Edited July 23, 2016 by Guest

[Earl Hood 6,082]

1 minute ago, beelzebub said:

What is it then, if not spirit. There was a win for the taking today. Real teams find that way to do it. They grind until the cogs line up ( eventually) andyou can change up and get over the libelibe by sheer force of will. 

We didn't. Never seem to. We do indeed have a problem with spiri, or call it whatever you like. 

I nominate skills, on field leadership, umpiring and game plan. The spirit was there today, skills were wanting at times, our game plan is a negative under pressure, the umps didn't help and we don't have top shelf leadership. 

[Ricky P 757]

A lot of the posters saying we are hopeless and spiritless also said we would get belted this week. It's amazing they can be so confident with their opinion given that it would seem that they may not know what they're talking about ;).

[olisik 4,060]

We need players who can boot Goals from over 50. 

[Nasher 33,607]

1 hour ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

"ooohh yes we tried so hard and it was in Perth and the umpires were against us and we are so young" ........ FMD!!!!!!!!!!

Sorry, which of those facts are you disputing?

It sucked, it hurt, and we should have won.  We couldn't capitalise with our dominance of the ball, or our huge number of f50 entries relative to theirs. I know all that, and it burned.  I had an hour trip home after the game and I seethed the entire way.  My heart still starts thumping again just thinking about it.  But the last quarter was a slog, and we were unable to outslog a team better and more experienced than us, on their own poo pile.  We're young, we tried hard, and it was in Perth - you can be sick of hearing it all you want, it doesn't stop it from being fact, and significant factors in the loss.

[Soidee 1,496]

Our Young brigade fills me with hope, however unless we can recruit some senior guys who have killer instinct, brains and skills we will lose these close games.  Leadership again missing when we needed it.  

Having said all that, we came within a bees dick of beating that mongrel of a team.  Their supporters have had it good for too long.