Michael Hibberd and Michael Hurley

[Chris 2,892]

5 minutes ago, binman said:

That may be so but they copped a pretty big wack none the less and it was up to asada not the afl to charge the club for team based ped use - something they elected not to so

ASADA actually couldn't under the rules in play, under today's code they can and I think would have. 

From memory the AFL actually wanted to charge the club back when all the penalties were dished out but the EFC refused to sign if it stayed in, hence it was reduced to 'exposure to risk'. There is nothing stopping the AFL from dishing out a penalty to the club under the bringing the game into disrepute clause for the use of PED's. They didn't because they are soft as butter and incredibly conflicted. 

[beelzebub 23,392]

2 minutes ago, Chris said:

ASADA actually couldn't under the rules in play, under today's code they can and I think would have. 

From memory the AFL actually wanted to charge the club back when all the penalties were dished out but the EFC refused to sign if it stayed in, hence it was reduced to 'exposure to risk'. There is nothing stopping the AFL from dishing out a penalty to the club under the bringing the game into disrepute clause for the use of PED's. They didn't because they are soft as butter and incredibly conflicted. 

Except they won;t   We all know this

But back to this bloke Hibberd   who manages him btw ?

[Moonshadow 17,678]

1 hour ago, binman said:

To be honest i reckon it is fair enough for them to get the first draft pick in the almost certain event rhey finish last.

Im no efc apologist but the players have received their penalties as has the club.

Perhaps an argument could be made that the afl should have foeseen this and applied it when they banned them from finals etc but they can't apply a new penalty now. 

All that said i do wonder if they might consider giving the lions a priority pick and giving them number 1. Now that is something i would like to see!

I'd like to see the AFL give every club except Essendon a priority pick, thus making their first selection effectively pick 19.

Not going to happen though......

[Willmoy1947 4,261]

I can understand why any Essendon Players would love to play under the future prospects of what a Melbourne based package would have to offer them.

[faultydet 7,623]

2 hours ago, willmoy said:

I can understand why any Essendon Players would love to play under the future prospects of what a Melbourne based package would have to offer them.

I say this with no disrespect willmoy, but.......

 

We bluebloods back the MFC through thick and thin, but I have no doubt that most players from opposition sides would call our bluff, and call "false dawn", as they have a few times over the past 2 decades or so.

 

We need to start winning games. Others can turn it around fast (witness bulldogs), but we have a long history of looking like a list full of young prodigies, only to fall flat on our face time after time. Start winning MFC, and stop making excuses to lose. 

 

[PaulRB 6,436]

That's where the Don's players intimate relationship with our next coach will be telling. Hopefully Goodwin has their trust and respect, rare commodities at Windy Hill these days...

[Ron Burgundy 8,588]

On 27 June 2016 at 0:27 AM, Demon Disciple said:

Bring back Matty Whelan!

We did. His name is Nev Jetta.

 

[beelzebub 23,392]

1 hour ago, Ron Burgundy said:

We did. His name is Nev Jetta.

 

Nevs good  but he's no Wrecker

 

[Gorgoroth 13,220]

1 hour ago, beelzebub said:

Nevs good  but he's no Wrecker

 

Not even close.

Not even the same galaxy.

[Adam The God 30,757]

Has turned into a better player than Wrecker I reckon.

[Return to Glory 8,528]

Hibberd off half back would be an absolute bonus for us if we can land him. Great kick of the footy and a good competitor.

[Gorgoroth 13,220]

6 minutes ago, AdamPleb said:

Has turned into a better player than Wrecker I reckon.

Surely you are taking the pi55?

Wrecker was better and if not for injuries would have been a gun defender of the comp. 

When Jetta smashes Hird I'll allow that statement to stand. 

[Adam The God 30,757]

14 minutes ago, Gorgoroth said:

Surely you are taking the pi55?

Wrecker was better and if not for injuries would have been a gun defender of the comp. 

When Jetta smashes Hird I'll allow that statement to stand. 

Agree to disagree. Wheels was a solid foot soldier who was great to watch for his toughness, but with the exception of the last weeks, Jetts has hardly lost a one-on-one for over a season. Wrecker never went on a streak like that. But as I say, each to their own.

[Wiseblood 24,637]

Just now, AdamPleb said:

Agree to disagree. Wheels was a solid foot soldier who was great to watch for his toughness, but with the exception of the last weeks, Jetts has hardly lost a one-on-one for over a season. Wrecker never went on a streak like that. But as I say, each to their own.

I think you forget how good Matty Whelan was.  I think Gorgoroth is selling Jetta short a little, but Wrecker was sensational in both his drive off half back and his ability to win the one on one contest.  He was a super player.

[Gorgoroth 13,220]

And he smashed Hird... winner!!!

 

Ha ha

[Return to Glory 8,528]

Matty Whelan was a wonderful player and one of my all time favourites. He had a sense of the pressure around him and was terrific at turning defence into attack. And he was tough.

[monoccular 17,761]

On 27 June 2016 at 9:40 AM, Abe said:

He's a very good player and shouldn't cost more than our second round pick, if we have to trade at all.

Don't think we have to trade as he is a defacto free agent (if I understand things correctly).

On 27 June 2016 at 0:28 PM, It's Time said:

It would only be fair if they lost a few players to us for nought. 

The AFL may have already factored in compensation for this by allowing them to get the first or second pick in this year's draft when they really should have had their first pick at least deferred to the end of the first round or taken away altogether. They obviously aren't a genuine bottom team they are only there for one year because of their transgressions.

I couldn't believe On the Couch the other week discussed what they might do with their first pick instead of discussing how it is that they will have the first pick at all. Other than KB the whole AFL Community and media have been very very quiet about this.

Maybe Brock McLean should be asked for his opinion? ;-)

On 28 June 2016 at 6:10 PM, Return to Glory said:

Matty Whelan was a wonderful player and one of my all time favourites. He had a sense of the pressure around him and was terrific at turning defence into attack. And he was tough.

And he gave Golden Boy what he now deserves.

[dazzledavey36 56,396]

Tom Browne just said that Essendon are getting very frustrated with the demons who are aggressively chasing both Hibberd and Hurley...

Giddy up Dee supporters!

[McQueen 17,867]

Awesome.

Almost as awesome as having another thread about the two of these players.

[special robert 438]

Hurley...Yes..then we can move T Mac to CHF.......!!

[SaberFang 7,151]

1 minute ago, special robert said:

Hurley...Yes..then we can move T Mac to CHF.......!!

I get the feeling any chance to get Hurley would result in trading out T-Mac for an early first rounder, to get us back into the first round of a very promising draft.

[special robert 438]

Can't we trade Dawes instead?

[monoccular 17,761]

Ho hum

And who is this Tom Browne person anyway - I thought that he was some long deceased American revolutionary.

[RalphiusMaximus 6,112]

1 minute ago, special robert said:

Can't we trade Dawes instead?

For a first round pick?

[Wiseblood 24,637]

1 minute ago, SaberFang said:

I get the feeling any chance to get Hurley would result in trading out T-Mac for an early first rounder, to get us back into the first round of a very promising draft.

Yep, I get this feeling too. If, and it's a big if, we could talk Hurley in to coming over, the club may let T Mac go for a first rounder to free up the necessary salary cap room.