The Jesse Hogan Panic Room - all contract talk here

[mo64 5,851]

5 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

just showed interview with hogan's management on ch9. he said unequivocally that jesse still undecided on staying and will wait to see how melb go next year and that he is still drawn to mates and family in perth

and so the distracting media circus will continue daily well into next year

(if his management is to be believed)

So what happens if Freo and WCE also have sh#t years next year? If this quote is true, he's basically giving the club an ultimatum, "perform or else I leave. Oh and btw, I'll probably leave anyway."

[DeeZee 7,361]

I'm really not comfortable having a player on our list that's not sure if he wants to stay or not, his manager said he is torn between staying or going home.

To make a serious tilt at finals next year , you'd want list of fully committed players who believe in the goal of winning a premiership with the Melbourne football club.

[Ethan Tremblay 30,810]

4 months, 1 week and 4 days until he re-signs. 

[Satyriconhome 10,675]

No what it is saying, is what every other player says to their manager, except Hogan has to publicly state it, I have another year on my contract to run, I'll give it everything I have got for this year, coz if I don't my value and bargaining power will drop, but I will then decide what the next step in my career is to be

[daisycutter 29,600]

1 minute ago, Satyriconhome said:

No what it is saying, is what every other player says to their manager, except Hogan has to publicly state it, I have another year on my contract to run, I'll give it everything I have got for this year, coz if I don't my value and bargaining power will drop, but I will then decide what the next step in my career is to be

that was not what his management said.........he made melbourne's performance next year a key issue.....but please yourself

[Earl Hood 6,082]

17 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

just showed interview with hogan's management on ch9. he said unequivocally that jesse still undecided on staying and will wait to see how melb go next year and that he is still drawn to mates and family in perth

and so the distracting media circus will continue daily well into next year

(if his management is to be believed)

That says to me he is as good as Gawn! 

[Satyriconhome 10,675]

1 minute ago, daisycutter said:

that was not what his management said.........he made melbourne's performance next year a key issue.....but please yourself

Any good player does that Daisy, especially ones who know they are coveted by other teams, the ultimate prize for a player is a premiership, if Hogan doesn't think we are near one, he may well move, Watts had the opportunity this year and stayed, so did others

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29 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

just showed interview with hogan's management on ch9. he said unequivocally that jesse still undecided on staying and will wait to see how melb go next year and that he is still drawn to mates and family in perth

and so the distracting media circus will continue daily well into next year

(if his management is to be believed)

After every win it'll be "why hasn't Hogan signed yet?" and after ever loss it'll be "he's gone". 

Bring on the circus, I can't wait.

Edited September 20, 2016 by Scythe

[binman 42,493]

45 minutes ago, KingDingAling said:

To be fair a lot of posters (not just from this forum) have implored the club to force his (Hogan's) hand. This is mainly due to Freo having an early pick. Taking that into consideration I think it is reasonable to expect the club to ask the hard question. 

Well yes i agree in fact that is my point to an extent. Lots of people make simplistic calls when it comes to things such as trading scearios. 

My point is that the fd are professionals who are paid to make the best decision for the club. I rate our current fd as the best we have had for 20 years. I very much doubt they will force jessies hand.

Assuming i am correct this.means that the fd believes the best thing for the mfc is for them not to force a decision or look to trade him this trade period. That's good enough for me.

[Pates 9,655]

10 hours ago, Bombay Airconditioning said:

I'm probably alone on this one but i don't see how the CBA really affects players decisions that are/have the potential to be on contracts of 1 million or higher.  

How much is enough?

Is keeping the team together a priority?

Hawks have/had players taking pay cuts over the past couple of years, Jesse has/had a contract in front of him for potentially around the million per season but is supposedly holding off to see how the CBA plays out....so he can ask for more? At the same time he continues to miss easy shots on goal arguably bringing his price down. 

Never fear Freo will most likely blow the budget to finally land their big fish.

 

Honestly I feel it's an excuse to put it off. I don't genuinely think that's the reason he's putting it off, I think it's just a convenient thing to utilise. 

When you're talking the money that he's going to be receiving I doubt the CBA is going to play much of a part in his decision unless the CBA will result in a big salary cap increase. 

[Bombay Airconditioning 6,298]

22 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

just showed interview with hogan's management on ch9. he said unequivocally that jesse still undecided on staying and will wait to see how melb go next year and that he is still drawn to mates and family in perth

and so the distracting media circus will continue daily well into next year

(if his management is to be believed)

If Hogans mindset truly is "he's waiting to see how we go next year" that is a concern, considering he's part of it. 

35 metres out, slight angle, sprays it right.

[Ethan Tremblay 30,810]

2 minutes ago, Bombay Airconditioning said:

If Hogans mindset truly is "he's waiting to see how we go next year" that is a concern, considering he's part of it. 

35 metres out, slight angle, sprays it right.

Can't agree more BA, he has to understand he is also part of the team and can influence the result on game day. 

It's a really poor excuse for not making a decision this trade period.

[Satyriconhome 10,675]

5 minutes ago, Bombay Airconditioning said:

If Hogans mindset truly is "he's waiting to see how we go next year" that is a concern, considering he's part of it. 

35 metres out, slight angle, sprays it right.

So if he has a terrible year in front of goal and his value drops like a stone, he is 'tanking', so he feels more comfortable when he finally decides to leave

We should all combine to write a novel, it would be a best seller

Edited September 20, 2016 by Satyriconhome

[Bombay Airconditioning 6,298]

1 minute ago, Satyriconhome said:

So if he has a terrible year in front of goal and his value drops like a stone, he is 'tanking', so he feels more comfortable when he finally decides to leave

We should all combine to write a novel, it would be a best seller

I went to film school, I'm actually writing a six part comedy based on the construction industry. 

If anyone is interested I made a short 8 minute action movie. 

[mo64 5,851]

53 minutes ago, Satyriconhome said:

Any good player does that Daisy, especially ones who know they are coveted by other teams, the ultimate prize for a player is a premiership, if Hogan doesn't think we are near one, he may well move, Watts had the opportunity this year and stayed, so did others

No they don't. There are heaps of players at GWS who extended prior to this year. The same applies to dozens of players across all clubs. They see themselves as being part of the resurgence unconditionally. The same can't be said off Hogan if these comments are true.

Edited September 20, 2016 by mo64

[Ethan Tremblay 30,810]

4 minutes ago, Satyriconhome said:

So if he has a terrible year in front of goal and his value drops like a stone, he is 'tanking', so he feels more comfortable when he finally decides to leave

We should all combine to write a novel, it would be a best seller

Suggestion number one for the book title: 

"My scooter and me" 

Edited September 20, 2016 by Ethan Tremblay

[Satyriconhome 10,675]

Just now, Bombay Airconditioning said:

I went to film school, I'm actually writing a six part comedy based on the construction industry. 

If anyone is interested I made a short 8 minute action movie. 

I assume it is a black comedy starring the CFMEU and Gatto

You only a need a synopsis based on the last few pages of this topic and you would have a classic psycho-drama on your hands

Although I think somebody has already had a crack at it

 

[Wiseblood 24,637]

1 minute ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

Suggestion number one for the book title: 

"My scooter and me" 

Suggestion number two:

'Gun Control'.

[Satyriconhome 10,675]

3 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

Suggestion number one for the book title: 

"My scooter and me" 

Already turned the book into a film

 

[Satyriconhome 10,675]

5 minutes ago, mo64 said:

No they don't. There are heaps of players at GWS who extended prior to this year. The same applies to dozens of players across all clubs. They see themselves as being part the resurgence unconditionally. The same can't be said off Hogan if these commnets are true.

What I said is that they all consider it, not all jump ship, and I should qualify it maybe, money is also a consideration

[Biffen 12,940]

6 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

Suggestion number one for the book title: 

"My scooter and me" 

"Saty Made Me Stay!"

[olisik 4,060]

Trade or sign. Simple. 

[Satyriconhome 10,675]

16 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

Suggestion number two:

'Gun Control'.

Already done as well.....Trumps campaign song?

 

[Willmoy1947 4,073]

18 minutes ago, Bombay Airconditioning said:

I went to film school, I'm actually writing a six part comedy based on the construction industry. 

If anyone is interested I made a short 8 minute action movie. 

I would like to do the part where they put the RC in the cement.

[Roger Mellie 3,950]

42 minutes ago, DeeZee said:

I'm really not comfortable having a player on our list that's not sure if he wants to stay or not, his manager said he is torn between staying or going home.

To make a serious tilt at finals next year , you'd want list of fully committed players who believe in the goal of winning a premiership with the Melbourne football club.

Having waded through all the hoo ha, I would factor in the following - if his father is gravely ill, there would be some compulsion to stay around the family as opposed to signing up for a long term deal and swanning off to the other side of the country. I know if it were me, I'd be loathe to lock into a long term deal until I was sure about the home front. I realise the club will be very accommodating and I believe it when they say he's happy at Melbourne. For me, that would be the reality of it. In other words, I think it's about the family and not about playing for Melb or Freo or raking in the big bucks, at this time.