On 10/10/2019 at 04:48, Rusty Nails said:

The entire club is pre/post camp fiasco effected YB.  What's been leaked so far is just the tip of the iceberg.

I reckon he'll get somewhere back to pre-camp form with a fresh start wherever he ends up.

Seems these camp thingies can do a bit of damage....(cough*cough*)

  On 10/10/2019 at 06:48, Redleg said:

Apparently Pies are into Jenkins.

Cant afford him

  On 10/10/2019 at 23:17, jnrmac said:

Seems these camp thingies can do a bit of damage....(cough*cough*)

Shhhhh don't spoil it jnr!

I would have good look at him because TMac struggles against the better defenders.  If Jenkins takes the best defender it will make TMac a better player.

  On 11/10/2019 at 06:27, one_demon said:

I would have good look at him because TMac struggles against the better defenders.  If Jenkins takes the best defender it will make TMac a better player.

Only problem with that OD is that Jenkins won't get the #1 defender.

 

So our leading goal kicker kicked 22 goals this year and we prioritise other positions to trade in.

Our number 1 forward is now constantly getting injured and our number 2 is still establishing himself at suburban footy grounds when not injured.

That’s why Mahoney and Co get paid the big bucks and us posters have no idea, right?

I cant understand why there would be a reluctance to pop JJ on the list for 2 years. Honestly, the moment we got rid of Cam Ped, we found that we lacked that experienced big bodied footballer. I think Fritsch can kick 30 goals which will be a bonus and a fit Melk could offer 25+ but i still think we need a good back up player.

  On 13/10/2019 at 21:26, Demon3 said:

I cant understand why there would be a reluctance to pop JJ on the list for 2 years. Honestly, the moment we got rid of Cam Ped, we found that we lacked that experienced big bodied footballer. I think Fritsch can kick 30 goals which will be a bonus and a fit Melk could offer 25+ but i still think we need a good back up player.

It seems no one wants him. He'll probably be picked up by someone for peanuts at the death.

If rumours are true about him leaking info about his own club you could understand why clubs are staying away. I mean if he is getting out a club and team mates he has played with for years he isnt going to have much loyalty to a xlub he has been at 5 minutes.

  On 13/10/2019 at 21:31, binman said:

It seems no one wants him. He'll probably be picked up by someone for peanuts at the death.

If rumours are true about him leaking info about his own club you could understand why clubs are staying away. I mean if he is getting out a club and team mates he has played with for years he isnt going to have much loyalty to a xlub he has been at 5 minutes.

Whenever a player is on the skids at a club you start "hearing" things Bin.  Conversely when they are sought after / needed you tend to "hear" the opposite.

I have "heard" things as well about "a player" at our club allegedly saying things on the field that under the scrutiny some are saying should apply here in terms of determining whether to get/keep or not,  would probably see him terminated or rejected in a trade.

I have no idea whether what this player allegedly said on field is true or otherwise but said player will still be running around in 2020.  Probably because he is very much a required player & fan fav (in many cases).  If he wasn't he may well have been traded (assuming what was allegedly said was overheard by MFC officials).

If we were to decide our list based on this sort of behavioral criteria we might end up with a very short list indeed Bin.

  On 13/10/2019 at 21:26, Demon3 said:

I cant understand why there would be a reluctance to pop JJ on the list for 2 years. Honestly, the moment we got rid of Cam Ped, we found that we lacked that experienced big bodied footballer. I think Fritsch can kick 30 goals which will be a bonus and a fit Melk could offer 25+ but i still think we need a good back up player.

iirc when he was dropped rather than take it on the chin, he went public with his dissatisfaction and 'heated' discussion with the coach.  Hard to trust someone after that.

Edited October 13, 20195 yr by Lucifer's Hero

  On 13/10/2019 at 22:35, Lucifer's Hero said:

iirc when he was dropped rather than take it on the chin, he went public with his dissatisfaction and 'heated' discussion with the coach.  Hard to trust someone after that.

Yeah there is an element of that for sure, but the club as much to blame as anyone on this, they created an environment that caused players alot of unhappiness in their workplace, some voiced it publicly some in house. 

  On 13/10/2019 at 22:54, Demon3 said:

Yeah there is an element of that for sure, but the club as much to blame as anyone on this, they created an environment that caused players alot of unhappiness in their workplace, some voiced it publicly some in house. 

iirc JJ's public complaints about the coach were not about the camp or culture.  They were more self-serving; complaining about being dropped.  Not good for team work or trust building and mateship.

Edited October 13, 20195 yr by Lucifer's Hero

  On 13/10/2019 at 22:58, Lucifer's Hero said:

iirc JJ's public complaints about the coach were not about the camp or culture.  They were more self-serving; complaining about being dropped.  Not good for team work or trust building and mateship.

Ok, i get it, you dont want him.

If we were to take him on a two year contract what would it take in terms of a trade with the Crows?

  On 13/10/2019 at 23:35, Bombay Airconditioning said:

If we were to take him on a two year contract what would it take in terms of a trade with the Crows?

I imagine it would not be alot. but id be very surprised now if he ended up with us. Which off the back of a year where we struggled to kick goals we will have failed to address another back up fwd and a small crumbing fwd.. seems pretty strange to me.

  On 13/10/2019 at 23:35, Bombay Airconditioning said:

If we were to take him on a two year contract what would it take in terms of a trade with the Crows?

Jenkins and a second round pick for us taking Jenkins. 

  On 13/10/2019 at 23:35, Bombay Airconditioning said:

If we were to take him on a two year contract what would it take in terms of a trade with the Crows?

Not that I am wanting him on the list... Pick 79 will get it done considering he is not wanted at all. 

  On 13/10/2019 at 23:38, Ethan Tremblay said:

Jenkins and a second round pick for us taking Jenkins. 

Lock it in.

No way we need this guy 

  On 13/10/2019 at 23:38, Demon3 said:

I imagine it would not be alot. but id be very surprised now if he ended up with us. Which off the back of a year where we struggled to kick goals we will have failed to address another back up fwd and a small crumbing fwd.. seems pretty strange to me.

I’d take him, but apparently the terms “role player” ,  “upgrade on what we currently have” or “depth” can only be used on certain players.

  On 13/10/2019 at 22:58, Lucifer's Hero said:

iirc JJ's public complaints about the coach were not about the camp or culture.  They were more self-serving; complaining about being dropped.  Not good for team work or trust building and mateship.

Aside from Bruce (looking highly unlikely we are interested but hope i'm wrong), who else would you put up as a KF or tallish mobile forward option that can average about 2 goals per match or more LH on such low coin.

Edited October 13, 20195 yr by Rusty Nails

  On 13/10/2019 at 23:41, Kent said:

No way we need this guy 

Punctuation?

  On 14/10/2019 at 00:31, McQueen said:

Punctuation?

Not necessary Steve!

  On 13/10/2019 at 23:48, Rusty Nails said:

Aside from Bruce (looking highly unlikely we are interested but hope i'm wrong), who else would you put up as a KF or tallish mobile forward option that can average about 2 goals per match or more LH on such low coin.

I don't have the answer Rusty. 

However, Melksham, Tom Mc, Petracca, Fritsch and occasionally Wiedeman have shown they are very good forwards.  But they have played no more than a handful of games together. 

And our forward line is like Brown's cows.  I harp on the lack of a forward coach a lot.  I truly believe part of our fwd problem is that we do not have a coach who has ever played as a fwd nor coached fwds.  Get us a forward coach who can develop those players into a strong unit and we will do just fine.

Having said that I'm keen to see if the musings in the Key Forward Recruit thread eventuate.

Edited October 14, 20195 yr by Lucifer's Hero