Why did I get censored???? with this post? 

Edited February 15, 20169 yr by Grapeviney
We're talking footy here, not private lives. Read the opening post, and note the 2 other threads which have already been closed.

Great player and captain for the club, one of the best I've seen. Wish his decision making off the field was as good as it used to be on field.

Edited February 15, 20169 yr by Moonshadow

28 minutes ago, picket fence said:

 

Why did I get censored???? with this post? 

Grape has no appreciation for fine literature picket

He was one of my favourite players. I've come across him a few times since his playing days. Not a very pleasant chap. Having said that I wish him no ill will.

He bled so much for the MFC, he was in my opinion the best captain we have had since our last flag. Hes the last player to kick double digit goals in a final.  I dont think even Ablett, Lockett or Dunstall managed to kick 10 in a final.

Couldnt care less what hes like off the field or about his personal life, he is a legend of the club.

Edited February 15, 20169 yr by Petraccattack

He's a popular target. Did Stynes get the same scrutiny for employing Schwab?

I first fell in love with Garry in Round 16 1988.  3 virtuoso goals against the Pies on his 50th and we knew we were on a winner....

Pity he or someone close to him actually reads the drivel on this webpage, hence all the censoring.....

I don't think anyone really hates him, we all have a soft spot for him, bled R&B blabla but not the greatest one-eyed media-personality supporter we would have liked and not the best in helping out the club at times..despite his good intentions....

Seems like his private life is a mess and needs to get out of the media gig for a while i imagine...

 

Edited February 15, 20169 yr by RickyJ45

4 hours ago, dee-tox said:

He's a popular target. Did Stynes get the same scrutiny for employing Schwab?

The Ox also doesn't  cause the same divide as Lyon and over the journey he has been as critical of the club as Lyon has been.

I think another poster also nailed it that the Footy show is so horrific, Lyon is tarred with that brush. 

The Ox just seems to come across with such one-eyed honest passion that even his criticisms are painful but acceptable home-truths whereas Garry's criticisms for whatever reason are met with cynicism or considered reactionary innuendo

Edited February 15, 20169 yr by RickyJ45

As far as MFC goes it seems like it's all care no responsibility for Lyon.

As far as him personally goes he just doesn't seem like a good bloke.

12 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

As far as MFC goes it seems like it's all care no responsibility for Lyon.

As far as him personally goes he just doesn't seem like a good bloke.

Drivel on both counts. Post football career, he's never sought to be a paid employee or full-time board member of the club because of his media commitments. That's his prerogative. He's assisted the club in a voluntary capacity upon request.

And when you make a statement such as "he just doesn't seem like a good bloke", at least come up with something factual to support it.

 

40 minutes ago, nutbean said:

The Ox also doesn't  cause the same divide as Lyon and over the journey he has been as critical of the club as Lyon has been.

I think another poster also nailed it that the Footy show is so horrific, Lyon is tarred with that brush. 

Think you will find Ox can be quite bias but he also has a fine balance aswell. He spoke passionately about wanting to join thw club and helping out in any way possible to help keep this club that he loves alive during the 2013 seaaon.

Unlike Lyon who Stynes had to beg for, Ox wanted to help in any form. Personally i wish we hired Ox on a part time specialist forward coach to help the likes of Hogan Weideman Hulett and Max King.

The David Neitz Hawthorn forward line coach still grates me.

Edited February 15, 20169 yr by dazzledavey36

Find it distasteful when B grade  celebrities  blab about their private family misfortunes in the media.  It appears Brownless  has made sure the whole world knows.  These things are best kept private and the usual rumours and sniggers will eventually die down. I am sure his family especially the kids  will suffer more than they should for it. Very selfish and self serving.

Edited February 15, 20169 yr by america de cali

Just now, america de cali said:

Find it distasteful when B grade  celebrities  blab about their private misfortunes in the media.  It appears Brownless  has made sure the whole world knows.  These things are best kept private and the usual rumours and sniggers will eventually die down. I am sure his family will suffer more than they should for it. Very selfish and self serving.

In what way has Brownless "made sure the world knew this'.. Show me a quote from Brownless where he has been blabbing on about his personal life?

Don't mind your work most times but your out of line on this case.

1 minute ago, dazzledavey36 said:

In what way has Brownless "made sure the world knew this'.. Show me a quote from Brownless where he has been blabbing on about his personal life?

Don't mind your work most times but your out of line on this case.

I doubt Gary and the exes have been blabbing. Have a read of this mornings The Age.  Billy opens his heart.

6 minutes ago, america de cali said:

Find it distasteful when B grade  celebrities  blab about their private family misfortunes in the media.  It appears Brownless  has made sure the whole world knows.  These things are best kept private and the usual rumours and sniggers will eventually die down. I am sure his family especially the kids  will suffer more than they should for it. Very selfish and self serving.

Have you seen a quote or interview anywhere from Brownless or Lyon or their ex-wives? Or did you just make that up? 

Alright if you insist on having a rational discussion about this I will have to come up to your level.......Brownless is separated.........Lyon the same......their partners...the same............so there is nothing to discuss......they are free to do whatever.

Where is BBO when you need him?

2 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

Have you seen a quote or interview anywhere from Brownless or Lyon or their ex-wives? Or did you just make that up? 

Same for you. Read The Age. I won't bother to link it for you.

 

1 minute ago, america de cali said:

I doubt Gary and the exes have been blabbing. Have a read of this mornings The Age.  Billy opens his heart.

He opens his heart to his closest mates. He has not ONCE spoke to the Age or the Sun since the scandal broke out.

So you have pretty much taken a swipe at Brownless for an unfair situation and some he never even did.

Poor effort

2 minutes ago, special robert said:

Alright if you insist on having a rational discussion about this I will have to come up to your level.......Brownless is separated.........Lyon the same......their partners...the same............so there is nothing to discuss......they are free to do whatever.

Where is BBO when you need him?

Yeah i understand what your saying but when you do it to someone thats been your best mate for over 15 years sorry but thats a dog act.

4 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

He opens his heart to his closest mates. He has not ONCE spoke to the Age or the Sun since the scandal broke out.

So you have pretty much taken a swipe at Brownless for an unfair situation and some he never even did.

Poor effort

Not so close if they blab to the media private matters without his Consent.

And Billy is directly quoted in the paper. Better a dignified no comment.

 

 

Edited February 15, 20169 yr by america de cali

1 minute ago, america de cali said:

Not so close if they blab to the media. And Billy is directly quoted in the paper.

 

But they haven't? Can you can copy and paste the quote? 

28 minutes ago, america de cali said:

Not so close if they blab to the media private matters without his Consent.

And Billy is directly quoted in the paper. Better a dignified no comment.

 

 

The article doesn't make this clear but the quotes from Billy are from a TV interview he did last year, I think it was during an appearance on 'on the couch' (re reading the article they do mention it was on open Mike, it still could be clearer). I read exactly the same quotes the other day in the other paper than attributed it to this appearance. 

The rest of the info has come out because Billy has been speaking to his 'friends'. Although I question how great these friends were considering the info is now out I certainly don't begrudge Billy from talking to his friends, i would actually encourage him to do so. 

Edited February 15, 20169 yr by Chris

Lyon was a fantastic footballer for MFC albeit his career was curtailed by injury. 

He has a high degree of self confidence and values his own opinion but he's not as good as he thinks he is.  His foray's into footy since his retirement have been disastrous.

Great footballer, ordinary bloke.  Anybody who knocks off the ex wife of a clearly distressed best friend doesn't have a high level of empathy but does have a high level of self interest.

Oh and junior, there is a reason he was never on the Board but I can't say why here. Needless to say it wouldn't have been through lack of desire.

 

40 minutes ago, special robert said:

Alright if you insist on having a rational discussion about this I will have to come up to your level.......Brownless is separated.........Lyon the same......their partners...the same............so there is nothing to discuss......they are free to do whatever.

Where is BBO when you need him?

there is discussion in the press that the "relationship" may have been going on for 4 years i.e. when both still with partners

whether that is a fact or not i do not know, but if true it would paint a different picture

slobbo in today's hun also comes to brownless's defense and has a lot of bitter-sweet things to say about gary. needless to say it is a typical rambling, all-over-place article that leads one to believe it was written (like many of his pieces) in the pub. I won't link the web version because it seems to be a lot shorter than the print version. maybe it has got redacted