THE BOMBERS' SWISS ADVENTURE

[Devil is in the Detail 883]

If anyone knows. Does the other players in the AFL support the EFC players, or are they really annoyed about how they have acted and what they have tried to get away with?

[beelzebub 23,392]

  On 08/02/2016 at 00:34, Devil is in the Detail said:

If anyone knows. Does the other players in the AFL support the EFC players, or are they really annoyed about how they have acted and what they have tried to get away with?

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its a good question and I suspect individuals will differ. The joke of a players assoc however support them....because we all know who's hand is up their .......

[SaberFang 7,151]

Fair to say Sam Mitchell isn't much of a fan.

[Willmoy1947 4,251]

  On 08/02/2016 at 00:24, old dee said:

I feel that behind the scenes the AFL via the Union has been telling the players firstly that they would not get a suspension and is now urging them to appeal.

The AFL should be actively discouraging the players but when you have a CEO who says he feels the players were innocent and feels for them.

Then it is obvious that the players will keep on keeping on as they believe that the AFL thinks they are in the right.

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"Sword of Damocles" hanging over Gil I say

[old dee 24,072]

So far Gil the Dil has one credit.

He got the price of food down and that was probably achieved by bludgeoning the suppliers into it.

Every other area has a demerit against him he may well go down as being the worst AFL CEO.

[daisycutter 29,989]

  On 08/02/2016 at 00:47, old dee said:

So far Gil the Dil has one credit.

He got the price of food down and that was probably achieved by bludgeoning the suppliers into it.

Every other area has a demerit against him he may well go down as being the worst AFL CEO.

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and.....it was all predictable......should have stuck to the polo world

[Devil is in the Detail 883]

  On 08/02/2016 at 00:36, beelzebub said:

its a good question and I suspect individuals will differ. The joke of a players assoc however support them....because we all know who's hand is up their .......

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Hate to open a hornets nest. But if some other clubs are participating in similar "on the edge" regimes, they might get more support than what we expect.

[old dee 24,072]

  On 08/02/2016 at 00:52, daisycutter said:

and.....it was all predictable......should have stuck to the polo world

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IMO dc the job should have been given to an outsider the AFL is an old boys club which explains why he got the job.

The AFL is desperately in need of a new broom with no allegiances to the insiders.

[Captain Todd 171]

  On 08/02/2016 at 00:55, old dee said:

IMO dc the job should have been given to an outsider the AFL is an old boys club which explains why he got the job.

The AFL is desperately in need of a new broom with no allegiances to the insiders.

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Gil inherited the mess. Not even Houdini could get out of that one.

 

[old dee 24,072]

  On 08/02/2016 at 01:01, Captain Todd said:

Gil inherited the mess. Not even Houdini could get out of that one.

 

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He was an integral part of the mess and then promoted to the top job to ensure the boat did not get rocked.

He has to go along with a dozen of his mates.

[Willmoy1947 4,251]

  On 08/02/2016 at 01:01, Captain Todd said:

Gil inherited the mess. Not even Houdini could get out of that one.

 

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Not exactly competent decision maker if you lined him up against Tony and Colonel Klink

[Chris 2,892]

  On 08/02/2016 at 01:01, Captain Todd said:

Gil inherited the mess. Not even Houdini could get out of that one.

 

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His handling of the mess has been appalling though, as has Essendon's, Dimetriou's, The Commission's, the AFLPA's, most of the media's (due to accreditation issues), the former federal government, and most of all the EFC and players legal teams! The only people who come out of this with any credibility are Andruska, McDevitt, the team at ASADA, and the team at WADA. Might just be because they are the only ones who have bothered to understand what is actually going on!

[daisycutter 29,989]

  On 08/02/2016 at 01:01, Captain Todd said:

Gil inherited the mess. Not even Houdini could get out of that one.

 

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he may have inherited the mess up to point, but he was never going to be the one to fix it up

[beelzebub 23,392]

Gil is a classic case of someone manouevring themselves into a position then finding they are ill equipped to do it.

[old dee 24,072]

  On 08/02/2016 at 01:26, beelzebub said:

Gil is a classic case of someone manouevring themselves into a position then finding they are ill equipped to do it.

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You forgot " and he does not yet realise it"

[beelzebub 23,392]

  On 08/02/2016 at 01:32, old dee said:

You forgot " and he does not yet realise it"

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and we all do 

[faultydet 7,623]

  On 07/02/2016 at 20:58, Dr John Dee said:

She says things like this:

"Arguments about CAS supposedly “tampering” with evidence are so laughably asinine, they belong in booze-filled bars and online fan forums. But they are being quietly propagated among some footy officials, and on radio by commentators.

 

"Absurd, too, is the suggestion the CAS verdict has been torn apart by legal experts. Presumably, the same geniuses, who were hopelessly wrong in predicting that players were unlikely to receive infraction notices, in advising them to join the failed Federal Court action, and in opining that they were safe from bans at CAS, are now claiming a Swiss Federal Tribunal appeal is a sound idea."

And this:

"It’s likely that those signing up for the last-ditch appeal aren’t aware of the fate of tennis player Guillermo Canas. The former world No. 8 was successful in having his CAS finding annulled in the Swiss Federal Tribunal, but after the case was reheard at CAS, he was given the same penalty."

And also refers to Ing's point about the need for de novo hearings being essential because otherwise a sports body could simply tank on a prosecution and WADA would be stuffed on appealing.

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Thanks Dr, much appreciated.

 

About bloody time someone in the media told it like it really is. My head spins at the amount of propaganda, and downright lies coming out of the mouths of afl media, and the drug cheats camp.

 

They must think everyone is so stupid.

 

Wait, actually, I think they are on to something there. Most people are just that.

[faultydet 7,623]

  On 08/02/2016 at 00:27, beelzebub said:

A lot of Essendon supporters Ive run into including my eldest ( lol ) are all deniaisits !!  Havent met ONE yet that says..we need to cop it sweet etc

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Same.

 

I wish them all the pain in the world. I wish their drug cheating club would fold, and fade into history, but we can clearly see that the afl has plans for them to return to the top asap. You know, big crowds are good for business and all that. Dill gets a nice bonus when crowds are up.

 

Every single essedon supporter I have ever met, turns into an arrogant pig as soon as footy is mentioned. Even seemingly nice folk. Its in their blood, like a virus.

[DemonFrog 1,359]

The new Drug Lords theme song

We owe we owe because off to Switzerland we go.

[Wadda We Sing 10,685]

  On 05/02/2016 at 22:35, sue said:

I'm staggered.  Just how does getting the player off on a technicality clear their reputations?  Even more so when the technicality is that new evidence that helped prove their guilt should not have been admitted.  

As for the EFC insurers paying for this, I guess they assume there is a small chance they will get off.  So it is worth a bet of $500K  on it.  That may just save them an enormous payout that dwarfs the $500K gamble.  I expect they are simultaneously hiring lawyers to find an angle whereby they can dodge paying EFC if they lose.

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Interesting insurance claim to say the least, possible contract breaches there..... club breached its duty of care to the players, players acting outside the clubs code of conduct, acting in a manner likely to bring the club into disrepute...etc etc....if they do payout, good luck finding another insurer in the future....

[Captain Todd 171]

  On 08/02/2016 at 01:13, Chris said:

His handling of the mess has been appalling though, as has Essendon's, Dimetriou's, The Commission's, the AFLPA's, most of the media's (due to accreditation issues), the former federal government, and most of all the EFC and players legal teams! The only people who come out of this with any credibility are Andruska, McDevitt, the team at ASADA, and the team at WADA. Might just be because they are the only ones who have bothered to understand what is actually going on!

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When the AFL seek to 'protect' the brand, it ceases to be a game that has passion. They are treating it like a business and people(fans/players) don't follow businesses, they follow passion.

People expect fair according to the rules. They also understand that there are unfair moments, not everything ends in a fairytale. And not everything can have a clause "because it makes great viewing"

The fans are not stupid and don't like to be handled.

 

[old dee 24,072]

  On 08/02/2016 at 02:30, Captain Todd said:

When the AFL seek to 'protect' the brand, it ceases to be a game that has passion. They are treating it like a business and people(fans/players) don't follow businesses, they follow passion.

People expect fair according to the rules. They also understand that there are unfair moments, not everything ends in a fairytale. And not everything can have a clause "because it makes great viewing"

The fans are not stupid and don't like to be handled.

 

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The only bit I object to CT is that the game is not as good as viewing as it was before the multi interchange happened.

[beelzebub 23,392]

  On 08/02/2016 at 01:15, daisycutter said:

he may have inherited the mess up to point, but he was never going to be the one to fix it up

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and there again....the mess was partly of his own creation to

[Captain Todd 171]

  On 08/02/2016 at 02:52, old dee said:

The only bit I object to CT is that the game is not as good as viewing as it was before the multi interchange happened.

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I remember when they used to have mud in July. The games all look the same from up North and out west.

[daisycutter 29,989]

  On 08/02/2016 at 03:01, beelzebub said:

and there again....the mess was partly of his own creation to

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and that's why i said " up to a point", bub