If we cant beat Essendon after all this, we may as well pack it up and close shop.

 

 

3 hours ago, mauriesy said:

The Age had Hurley at CHB in that list, but he's one of the players suspended.

Rohan Connolly was on SEN today and he stated that was a typo by the editor as Connolly had written another player but it was changed.

I worry about our Mental approach to games.

So many games are lost between the ears.

Lets hope the coaches and leadership team ensure that we are focussed and come to play.

It has been shown time and time again, that If a team is down 5% and the oppos. Are 100% then a surprise result is in the offing.

I wonder by the end of 2016 how many of the current suspended EFC Players will still be at the club?

If they sue the EFC how could they possibly stay. Over the next few months I wonder how many will come to the decision the EFC is not for me any longer.

These and other questions will be answered soon I expect.

5 hours ago, Emerald said:

Stop Daniher kicking goals and keep Viney out of the backline and we should win.

Jeez Emerald , forgive and forget. That was a howler from Viney but he's more than made up for it since. And how keen will he be to give it to the bummers in round 2 ??

Anyone forgotten when we played them last year after they lost by 100 points to St Kilda?

I haven't.

Anyone forgotten that "absolute certainty" against Carlton last year?

I haven't.

Anyone forgotten the last time we played their top-ups team in the NAB Challenge?

I haven't.

You're a fool if you think we'll cakewalk them in round 2 and if anyone at the club is foolish enough to think this, player or coach, they are deadest fools as well. This game is the very definition of danger game for us.

Edited January 13, 20169 yr by SaberFang

7 hours ago, rjay said:

We will win comfortably, I'm not concerned with the EFC and wouldn't be even if they were at full strength.

Well bury these schmucks !!

And I'll take great pleasure in watching it.

Roos/Goody will have the list steppinup to new level ofgame  plan execution whilst Woosha will be struggling with his dad's army like congregation of nqrs.

An actual problem for efc ( poor darlings) ismanyof the stand ins will be more concerned about themselves than Windy Hill.....good

2 hours ago, old dee said:

I wonder by the end of 2016 how many of the current suspended EFC Players will still be at the club?

If they sue the EFC how could they possibly stay. Over the next few months I wonder how many will come to the decision the EFC is not for me any longer.

These and other questions will be answered soon I expect.

Bring it on

take that filthy club apart...

Their list will be ordinary this year. I don't mind their list 2017 on wards. The Bombers managed to trade out players at top value prior to the saga, and providing those picks were spent wisely, then It could be a blessing in disguise. There are a lot of disgruntled teams (Port, St Kilda) either whinging about compo or being bent over, but that is just a credit to the Bombers. Its not their fault that opposition teams didn't factors in the prospect of a WADA ban. If Essendon didn't start offloading players prior to 2016, they would be in a far worse position than they are now. The Bombers will enter 2017 with a relatively young list, and the impending arrival of a number 1 draft pick.

The BS and circus sideshow of Essendon in 2016 is already a joke.

Making it a 17 team competition whilst EFC sit on the sidelines copping their righteous whack makes more sense than anything to me.

But unfortunately Gillon is in charge and Essendon's best interests appear to be much higher of a priority than anything else.

Port Adelaide, St Kilda, Footscray and Melbourne also have players serving sentences for the ban but only Essendon (the offending club, the only club in the wrong) has the opportunity to recruit players outside of their list for the 2016 season. Because that really makes sense.

Edited January 13, 20169 yr by Carlos Danger

1 hour ago, SaberFang said:

Anyone forgotten when we played them last year after they lost by 100 points to St Kilda?

I haven't.

Anyone forgotten that "absolute certainty" against Carlton last year?

I haven't.

Anyone forgotten the last time we played their top-ups team in the NAB Challenge?

I haven't.

You're a fool if you think we'll cakewalk them in round 2 and if anyone at the club is foolish enough to think this, player or coach, they are deadest fools as well. This game is the very definition of danger game for us.

That's last year mate. We are in 2016 if you haven't switched on.

4 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

That's last year mate. We are in 2016 if you haven't switched on.

I'll just bookmark your post and we'll revisit after round 2 then.

9 minutes ago, SaberFang said:

I'll just bookmark your post and we'll revisit after round 2 then.

Keep in mind .....there ISN'T even a team sheet at Windy Hill currently. They'll have no time to rehearse much of anything ( with whoever ) by time they encounter us.

We'll have them on toast and help set the tone for their first of many painful seasons.

Don't get me wrong, I hope we beat them to an absolute pulp, but I'm permanently scarred by match after match, year after year, of those so-called "shoe-ins" that almost always end up being catastrophically embarrassing losses.

Yeah, 2016 is a new year, but last season was filled to the brim with some absolutely horrendous losses that clearly demonstrated a problem between the ears of our playing list. Hopefully by shedding types like Howe we've made real progress as a list of competitors.

Edited January 13, 20169 yr by SaberFang

15 minutes ago, SaberFang said:

I'll just bookmark your post and we'll revisit after round 2 then.

You do that.

 

21 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

That's last year mate. We are in 2016 if you haven't switched on.

That's true dazzle, but he has a point and we know our history.  We haven't reached a stage where we can confidently say we'll knock a team off... well, I haven't anyway.  The Bombers will be a shell of a team but we haven't exactly knocked teams over when we should.

My point is that a football club should never have a culture where the players are walking up the race expecting to win. Yeah, 2016 is a new year, but so was 2015 after 2014 and we still had those cringeworthy losses that seemed entirely psychological. We routinely lost matches we expected to win while winning matches nobody expected us to. 

I'm not so naive as to start counting wins months out from the season, regardless of how inept Essendon appears to look. Carlton looked pretty inept last year too but they embarrassed us. Essendon were a basket case after their 100 point loss to the Saints and they came out breathing fire against us, due to a week of intense media scrutiny.

1 hour ago, SaberFang said:

Anyone forgotten when we played them last year after they lost by 100 points to St Kilda?

I haven't.

Anyone forgotten that "absolute certainty" against Carlton last year?

I haven't.

Anyone forgotten the last time we played their top-ups team in the NAB Challenge?

I haven't.

You're a fool if you think we'll cakewalk them in round 2 and if anyone at the club is foolish enough to think this, player or coach, they are deadest fools as well. This game is the very definition of danger game for us.

Remember how we made the Tiges look second-rate in front of 63,000 on Anzac Eve?

I haven't.

Remember how we rag-dolled the Bulldogs in Rd 7?

I haven't.

Remember how we went down to Geelong as 10/1 outsiders, lost Hogan pre-match and rained on Enright's 300th parade

I haven't.

It's all in how you look at things.

We were a young, inconsistent side in 2015. But those wins show what we are capable of (along with some blistering passages in losses against Port, GWS, Pies and Roos) . We will be a year older next year, the side is lead by a new breed that aren't scarred from the past, and this match is a great early test of where the side is at. 

1 hour ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Bring it on

take that filthy club apart...

As long as there is no F Cotton's and B Era's playing i'll be happy

11 minutes ago, Thrice said:

Remember how we made the Tiges look second-rate in front of 63,000 on Anzac Eve?

I haven't.

Remember how we rag-dolled the Bulldogs in Rd 7?

I haven't.

Remember how we went down to Geelong as 10/1 outsiders, lost Hogan pre-match and rained on Enright's 300th parade

I haven't.

You're completely missing the point. What I'm getting at is we lose the games we're expected to win. Ergo, already talking this game up as a W is not only dangerous but incredibly arrogant. We are not at the stage as a club, culturally, where we have any right to think this way. In fact, it's this exact line of thinking that I'm convinced led to most of those losses last year. 

Edited January 13, 20169 yr by SaberFang

I was chatting to an Essendon Supporter at work today ("I just don't understand how they can look at the same evidence and see it so differently"), and he raised an interesting point.  He'd love them to get Crowley in as a top-up player, but he's not sure it would be a good look for the club given he's coming off a drug ban himself. 

1 hour ago, RalphiusMaximus said:

I was chatting to an Essendon Supporter at work today ("I just don't understand how they can look at the same evidence and see it so differently"), and he raised an interesting point.  He'd love them to get Crowley in as a top-up player, but he's not sure it would be a good look for the club given he's coming off a drug ban himself. 

Whatever it takes  surely....

7 hours ago, RalphiusMaximus said:

I was chatting to an Essendon Supporter at work today ("I just don't understand how they can look at the same evidence and see it so differently"), and he raised an interesting point.  He'd love them to get Crowley in as a top-up player, but he's not sure it would be a good look for the club given he's coming off a drug ban himself. 

not sure this is a club that has ever given much consideration as to what is a "good look"

17 hours ago, Carlos Danger said:

The BS and circus sideshow of Essendon in 2016 is already a joke.

Making it a 17 team competition whilst EFC sit on the sidelines copping their righteous whack makes more sense than anything to me.

But unfortunately Gillon is in charge and Essendon's best interests appear to be much higher of a priority than anything else.

Port Adelaide, St Kilda, Footscray and Melbourne also have players serving sentences for the ban but only Essendon (the offending club, the only club in the wrong) has the opportunity to recruit players outside of their list for the 2016 season. Because that really makes sense.

It is worse than that Carlos as the AFL website is suggesting Daniel Cross as one of the "top-up" midfielders so it is affecting Casey on two fronts: 1) losing White or whoever is promoted to replace Melksham, and 2) potentially losing Cross one of their experienced midfield coaches!

18 hours ago, SaberFang said:

Anyone forgotten when we played them last year after they lost by 100 points to St Kilda?

I haven't.

Anyone forgotten that "absolute certainty" against Carlton last year?

I haven't.

Anyone forgotten the last time we played their top-ups team in the NAB Challenge?

I haven't.

You're a fool if you think we'll cakewalk them in round 2 and if anyone at the club is foolish enough to think this, player or coach, they are deadest fools as well. This game is the very definition of danger game for us.

We look as if we have improved the list, but this will tell if we have gained any mental toughness which has been sorely lacking for most of the last half century  

18 hours ago, KingDingAling said:

Their list will be ordinary this year. I don't mind their list 2017 on wards. The Bombers managed to trade out players at top value prior to the saga, and providing those picks were spent wisely, then It could be a blessing in disguise. There are a lot of disgruntled teams (Port, St Kilda) either whinging about compo or being bent over, but that is just a credit to the Bombers. Its not their fault that opposition teams didn't factors in the prospect of a WADA ban. If Essendon didn't start offloading players prior to 2016, they would be in a far worse position than they are now. The Bombers will enter 2017 with a relatively young list, and the impending arrival of a number 1 draft pick.

2017 and beyond - will all the "deceived victims" want to stat at the poisoned club?  I suspect that many may seek a new start elsewhere.