51 minutes ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

Sounds like a Kia event, not an Essendon one. But you'd like to think somebody checked. 

If it's OK, I look forward to seeing Jake Melksham at all sorts of events put on by Melbourne's sponsors.

Interesting, could be Ess/AFL trying to test the water to mount more ammo to publicly declare their dissatisfaction with WADA/CAS

and their penalties being too strict, therefore exiting from their control.

The AFL won't leave. 

They wont but there'll be an all mighty [censored] storm if dysons suspension starts fresh 2 years from today because he went to a sponsor event. 

1 hour ago, biggestred said:

Heppel at a KIA event tonight...

Problems?

 

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-02-01/suspended-don-steps-out

 

Kia obviously major sponsor of essendon but apparently Dysons personal sponsor too...

Why would any company want to be associated with a sporting club that had 34 of its past and present players suspended for take illegal drugs or any of those suspended players?

Personally I would never consider buy anything from such an unethical business.

 

1 minute ago, DemonFrog said:

Why would any company want to be associated with a sporting club that had 34 of its past and present players suspended for take illegal drugs or any of those suspended players?

Personally I would never consider buy anything from such an unethical business.

 

Well im not sure id drive anything with the acronym KIA on the front.

 

Edit : i know its not an acronym but geeez

Edited February 1, 20169 yr by biggestred

This whole fiasco is a joke

the AFL don't care...!!

4 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

This whole fiasco is a joke

the AFL don't care...!!

I think the AFL care deeply about the Essendon FC and how the club should not have any penalty imposed on its for the biggest drug scandal in Australian history.

However I would not be surprised if James Hird was appointed the Integrity Officer for the AFL one day.

 

 

29 minutes ago, DemonFrog said:

I think the AFL care deeply about the Essendon FC and how the club should not have any penalty imposed on its for the biggest drug scandal in Australian history.

However I would not be surprised if James Hird was appointed the Integrity Officer for the AFL one day.

 

 

They sure as don't give a fcuk about WADA or CAS

A banned player at a sponsor evening??

hit 'em hard....

10 hours ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

Sounds like a Kia event, not an Essendon one. But you'd like to think somebody checked. 

If it's OK, I look forward to seeing Jake Melksham at all sorts of events put on by Melbourne's sponsors.

doesn't say much about kia's ethical position does it?

19 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

doesn't say much about kia's ethical position does it?

It speak volumes to me about their ethical position DC

http://www.kia.com.au/about-kia/contact-kia

Suggest we all let the company know about this. And tweet with a hastag #kiabacksdrugcheats

 

I wonder how Essendon could implement this now that the drug game has been caught out:

http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2016/02/how-pro-cyclists-cheat-using-motorized-bikes/

http://www.theroar.com.au/2016/02/02/asada-says-sponsorship-is-an-issue-for-the-afl/

ASADA say:  "it is up to the AFL to decide whether Dyson Heppell’s promotion of an Essendon sponsor is appropriate.

But wait!  When told of Heppell’s tweet, an AFL spokesman said it was up to ASADA to comment.  Is this a case of 'pass the parcel'!

More importantly it staggers me that:   'An ASADA spokesperson later said: “the sanctions are imposed by the AFL and any enquiries about appropriate activities should be directed to them'. 

My reaction is no, no no, NO!  The AFL will push the envelope to advantage EFC and the players!  Have ASADA learnt nothing about the AFL's potential for duplicity over the last 3 years?  I understand that the AFL impose the sanctions but surely ASADA is there to ensure the sanctions are enforced!  As a minimum I would have expected ASADA to say something like: the AFL impose the sanctions but they expect it to follow all the WADA/CAS rules for suspended players, to the letter and in the spirit of the law.  

I fear ASADA have gone soft, after all they were always in favour of the players getting off lightly.  I'm beginning to think they have a 'now that WADA has its man/men convicted' lets give the boys a soft landing attitude.

Further to that post.  I can see the end result being: Jobe keeps Brownlow; players get all sorts of paid gigs by sponsors, media etc;  players will get paid (hence why StK is making so much noise about who pays), take a nice holiday for the next 9 months and someone generously organises training for them at some exotic location.  Then they come back to the game as heroes.

So the only penalty is they don't actually play for a year...a bit like Hird not coaching for a year...no penalty at all really. 

Everyone wins:  WADA get their conviction, CAS upholds the clean sport principle and sends a message to sports to not try the 'doped but duped'/'dog ate my homework' argument, EFC  gets top draft picks, players get a soft landing.

Losers:  respect for ASADA and clean atheletes/sports.

So much for 'cheats never prosper'.

Edited February 2, 20169 yr by Lucifer's Hero

17 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Further to that post.  I can see the end result being: Jobe keeps Brownlow; players get all sorts of paid gigs by sponsors, media etc;  players will get paid (hence why StK is making so much noise about who pays), take a nice holiday for the next 9 months and someone generously organises training for them at some exotic location.  Then they come back to the game as heroes.

So the only penalty is they don't actually play for a year...a bit like Hird not coaching for a year...no penalty at all really. 

Everyone wins:  WADA get their conviction, CAS upholds the clean sport principle and sends a message to sports to not try the 'doped but duped'/'dog ate my homework' argument, EFC  gets top draft picks, players get a soft landing.

Losers:  respect for ASADA and clean atheletes/sports.

So much for 'cheats never prosper'.

Sadly LH that was all lost some time ago when they all became professional.

The greater the money in a sport the greater the corruption.
The only hope is to try and keep the effect as low as possible.

I would like to think that  the general population would turn against these sports but alas I see no sign of that happening.

Just look at the NFL, a bigger number will watch the Super Bowl next weekend and this is a sport that is actually killing the participants and it just seems to roll on.

Edited February 2, 20169 yr by old dee

rapidly losing interest in footy..

never thought it would happen

20 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Further to that post.  I can see the end result being: Jobe keeps Brownlow; players get all sorts of paid gigs by sponsors, media etc;  players will get paid (hence why StK is making so much noise about who pays), take a nice holiday for the next 9 months and someone generously organises training for them at some exotic location.  Then they come back to the game as heroes.

So the only penalty is they don't actually play for a year...a bit like Hird not coaching for a year...no penalty at all really. 

Everyone wins:  WADA get their conviction, CAS upholds the clean sport principle and sends a message to sports to not try the 'doped but duped'/'dog ate my homework' argument, EFC  gets top draft picks, players get a soft landing.

Losers:  respect for ASADA and clean atheletes/sports.

So much for 'cheats never prosper'.

 

What like KIA? Heaven forbid... oohh riiigghhtt

14 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

rapidly losing interest in footy..

never thought it would happen

My interest was fine right up until I saw the reactions from AFL land about the penalties, especially from Paul Marsh. Add to that that the players are being paid, and now allowed to go to 'personal sponsor' events, which they wouldn't have if it wasn't for footy, and then the seeming limp wristed response of ASADA on the matter and all interest is quickly evaporating. Still havent paid my membership this year and am starting to really think it may not get paid again, may well walk from the game completely. 

2 minutes ago, Chris said:

My interest was fine right up until I saw the reactions from AFL land about the penalties, especially from Paul Marsh. Add to that that the players are being paid, and now allowed to go to 'personal sponsor' events, which they wouldn't have if it wasn't for footy, and then the seeming limp wristed response of ASADA on the matter and all interest is quickly evaporating. Still havent paid my membership this year and am starting to really think it may not get paid again, may well walk from the game completely. 

am in the same boat

1 hour ago, Chris said:

My interest was fine right up until I saw the reactions from AFL land about the penalties, especially from Paul Marsh. Add to that that the players are being paid, and now allowed to go to 'personal sponsor' events, which they wouldn't have if it wasn't for footy, and then the seeming limp wristed response of ASADA on the matter and all interest is quickly evaporating. Still havent paid my membership this year and am starting to really think it may not get paid again, may well walk from the game completely. 

I feel horrible for saying this, as a lifelong MFC supporter, but the disgraceful behaviour of the EFC and AFL in this saga has seriously dented my interest in the entire competition. What Essendon did disgusts me, and they're being handled with kiddy gloves. Concessions out the wazoo, all because the AFL can't let one of their big clubs go under. It's disgusting and borderline untenable the way the AFL have protected a team of convicted drug cheats in this saga (I don't believe for a second that Vlad didn't tip them off that fateful night 4 years ago). 

Just add it to the already impressive CV of ineptitude that's created this horribly unbalanced 18 team league, including the most laughable series of concessions ever gifted to expansion clubs, almost directly resulting in the endless dominance of the same teams every single year; Hawthorn wouldn't be this successful if there were 15 clubs that got a slice of GWS and Gold Coast's players.

The AFL's head-in-the-sand approach has achieved nothing but inequity, and every major player is more concerned about their own interests than supporters'. The AFLPA? Say no more. The broadcasters? Responsible for diluted talent by way of expansion, and Brian Taylor. 

It's just so hard to maintain optimism about the game's future with so many pigs in the trough. Oh, but at least Gil made the pies $0.80 cheaper.

Edited February 2, 20169 yr by SaberFang

Amen to the above SaberFang

1 hour ago, beelzebub said:

rapidly losing interest in footy..

never thought it would happen

Yep 'bb', not just football but sport in general.

The joy is being sucked right out of it...

9 minutes ago, rjay said:

Yep 'bb', not just football but sport in general.

The joy is being sucked right out of it...

You know what rjay we do not [censored] enough.

We should all be writing to the AFL etc and complaining.

5 minutes ago, old dee said:

You know what rjay we do not [censored] enough.

We should all be writing to the AFL etc and complaining.

Meanwhile, at AFL House:

Edited February 2, 20169 yr by SaberFang

2 hours ago, beelzebub said:

rapidly losing interest in footy..

never thought it would happen

What, you haven't even seen Petracca play.